Baha'i: Jesus Claims to be God (and how do you respond to those claims?)

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Techno2000 said:
But God can “manifest” Himself in a physical form… the example being Baha’u’llah right ?
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…and Jesus…amongst others.

Grasping this one principle will result in the unification of the world.

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Servant19 said:
We have in no way concluded that Jesus DID claim to be God. He allowed people to draw conclusions which were in no way harmful to them.

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Servant19… no harm ?

He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned. Mark 16:16
 
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Techno2000 said:
Servant19… no harm ?

He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned. Mark 16:16
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Yes Jesus saw the value of the worship of a Manifestation of God, because false idols had been forsaken.

Bahaullah affirms this value.

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Techno2000 said:
I could say I am the Manifestation of my parents is that true ?
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No not really, my opinion of course.

But manifestation implies a pre-existence.

Pretty much all Manifestations of God made statements implying they were pre-existent and eternal. Moses and Buddha excluded I guess.

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Servant19 said:
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Yes Jesus saw the value of the worship of a Manifestation of God, because false idols had been forsaken.

Bahaullah affirms this value.

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The Jews didn’t worship false idols.
 
Servant19 said:
No not really, my opinion of course.

But manifestation implies a pre-existence.

Pretty much all Manifestations of God made statements implying they were pre-existent and eternal. Moses and Buddha excluded I guess.

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Well, if one can’t even say this about ones own Parents, how can one say this about being the Manifestation of God himself… as Baha’u’llah does ?
 
Techno2000 said:
The Jews didn’t worship false idols.
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Israelites did plenty of idol worship before Moses revealed His most important Commandment.

Polytheism was also rife.

One God needs to be established before the concept of a Manifestation of God can be introduced.

The Arabian tribes went through the same spiritual pathway.
Polytheistic idol worship, then Muhammad established one God, then Bahaullah established the Manifestation of God.

This is termed Progressive Revelation 🙂

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Techno2000 said:
Well, if one can’t even say this about ones own Parents, how can one say this about being the Manifestation of God himself… as Baha’u’llah does ?
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I don’t understand…

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Only here just because I want to see Randy Carson lead this discussion systematically, without having the dang thread derailed like the previous ones. đź‘Ť

Please stay on track with the OP.
 
Servant19 said:
Israelites did plenty of idol worship before Moses revealed His most important Commandment.

Polytheism was also rife.

One God needs to be established before the concept of a Manifestation of God can be introduced.

The Arabian tribes went through the same spiritual pathway.
Polytheistic idol worship, then Muhammad established one God, then Bahaullah established the Manifestation of God.

This is termed Progressive Revelation 🙂

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He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned. Mark 16:16
At the time Jesus said these words, the Jews were not into idol worship.
 
Techno2000 said:
He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned. Mark 16:16
At the time Jesus said these words, the Jews were not into idol worship.
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Yes as I said “false idols were forsaken”…

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GuyNextDoor said:
Only here just because I want to see Randy Carson lead this discussion systematically, without having the dang thread derailed like the previous ones. đź‘Ť

Please stay on track with the OP.
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I have been accused of ignoring questions in the past. I will not avoid questions again.

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