Baltimore: basilica illuminated in honor of death penalty repeal [CWN]
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Wackotrad
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Wahoo! I think that’s terrific. I wish my state would follow suit.
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livingwordunity
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Meanwhile, the abortion death penalty for babies expands in America and especially in Maryland. 
It’s just like how when given a choice between putting Jesus to death or putting the convicted killer to death the crowd chose to spare the guilty but put the innocent to death. It’s good to have mercy on the guilty. But to do so while having no mercy for the innocent is still very wicked.
I think it’s premature to celebrate this when the political leaders of Maryland still have blood on their hands for the relentless cold-blooded mass murder of innocent babies, even many at late-term.
It’s just like how when given a choice between putting Jesus to death or putting the convicted killer to death the crowd chose to spare the guilty but put the innocent to death. It’s good to have mercy on the guilty. But to do so while having no mercy for the innocent is still very wicked.
I think it’s premature to celebrate this when the political leaders of Maryland still have blood on their hands for the relentless cold-blooded mass murder of innocent babies, even many at late-term.
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PaulfromIowa
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A beautiful church, America’s first cathedral, designed by Benjamin Latrobe, the architect of the U.S. Capitol.:
http://www.baltimorebasilica.org/
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http://www.baltimorebasilica.org/
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Wackotrad
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You’re right that there is absolute hypocrisy in a state declaring the death penalty to be immoral, while allowing such open access to abortion. But small victories are still worth celebrating.Meanwhile, the abortion death penalty for babies expands in America and especially in Maryland.
It’s just like how when given a choice between putting Jesus to death or putting the convicted killer to death the crowd chose to spare the guilty but put the innocent to death. It’s good to have mercy on the guilty. But to do so while having no mercy for the innocent is still very wicked.
I think it’s premature to celebrate this when the political leaders of Maryland still have blood on their hands for the relentless cold-blooded mass murder of innocent babies, even many at late-term.
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livingwordunity
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But I don’t think it’s a step toward ending the abortion holocaust. The state keeps saying that it’s not even baby but a “blob of tissue” that gets “terminated” with an abortion instead of calling it what it is which is infanticide. So they won’t even admit that there is a problem with abortion. The state is murderous, double-minded, and two-faced and therefore should not be given a pat on the back.
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Wackotrad
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No, it’s not a step toward ending abortion, in all likelihood. But for those of us who believe that the death penalty is also immoral, this is a good decision nonetheless.But I don’t think it’s a step toward ending the abortion holocaust. The state keeps saying that it’s not even baby but a “blob of tissue” that gets “terminated” with an abortion instead of calling it what it is which is infanticide. So they won’t even admit that there is a problem with abortion. The state is murderous, double-minded, and two-faced and therefore should not be given a pat on the back.
In my mind, the two are like shoplifting vs. armed robbery. One is obviously worse than the other, but both are still wrong.
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Debora123
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Debora123
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Praise God!!
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LongingSoul
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That is the most wonderful vision! I have ‘to do’ list when I eventually make my way across the Pacific to America. A visit to Baltimore Cathedral will definitely be on it. Lovely and soul stirring sight.
It seems so weird to us who live in non-death penalty countries that it still has a place in American society. It hasn’t proved to mark a decline into more violence and lawlessness in countries who are many many decades beyond its abolition.
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thewanderer
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Fantastic news!
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livingwordunity
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The death penalty won’t be gone until they end legalized abortion which is the death penalty for unwanted children.
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LongingSoul
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I agree with you that abortion is a ‘death penalty’ for unwanted babies. I’m saying though, that for us in non-death penalty countries, the right to life fight was not set up as a ‘death penalty’ verses abortion scenario. Here, abortion is wrong because no life is subject to a humans judgement of its value (other than in self defence). We don’t have the death penalty to blur that principle.
In Australia the last hanging was in 1967, nearly 50 years ago, before abortion was even on the political landscape. Here, capital punishment was never juxtaposed with the abortion issue which is now of a scale not known back then.
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universityprof
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This is great! Eighteen states have abolished capital murder. Let’s hope that the other states do so soon too. Let’s get rid of this sensless punnishment once and for all. My parish recently sponsored Sister Helen Prejean to come in to our community and give an abolition speech. She was out of this world. Sister Helen is one of the best Catholic religious persons that I have heard speak in a long time, and i have heard many in my lifetime. She is in the trenches doing the social justice work that many only talk about. She does much work in the poor Af. American communities. Let’s end capital punnishment in America as our Catholic leaders now instruct us to do. Let’s be real prolife, and not just one sided. Peace.
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Debora123
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“The new evangelization calls for followers of Christ who are unconditionally pro-life: who will proclaim, celebrate and serve the Gospel of life in every situation. A sign of hope is the increasing recognition that the dignity of human life must never be taken away, even in the case of someone who has done great evil. . . . I renew the appeal I made . . . for a consensus to end the death penalty, which is both cruel and unnecessary.”
—Pope John Paul II Papal Mass, St. Louis, Missouri, January 27, 1999
—Pope John Paul II Papal Mass, St. Louis, Missouri, January 27, 1999
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Ender
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It is reasonable to celebrate the end of capital punishment in Maryland if you believe it to be a good thing but it is not reasonable to believe its use is immoral. The church has always recognized the right of states to employ it and has in fact condemned as heresy the claim that it is immoral.
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CatholicGeek1
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I disagree, this is a step on the road for a pro-life culture. A culture that respects all life. It is a small victory to be sure, but a victory all the same. You don’t win the war in one fell swoop, you win the war one battle at a time.Meanwhile, the abortion death penalty for babies expands in America and especially in Maryland.
It’s just like how when given a choice between putting Jesus to death or putting the convicted killer to death the crowd chose to spare the guilty but put the innocent to death. It’s good to have mercy on the guilty. But to do so while having no mercy for the innocent is still very wicked.
I think it’s premature to celebrate this when the political leaders of Maryland still have blood on their hands for the relentless cold-blooded mass murder of innocent babies, even many at late-term.
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CatholicGeek1
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Not quite, it is moral only in certain circumstances. Those of us that feel it is immoral, feel that way because we do not believe that the conditions required for moral application of the death penalty exist in the developed world today.
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Debora123
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“In Catholic teaching the state has the recourse to impose the death penalty upon criminals convicted of heinous crimes if this ultimate sanction is the only available means to protect society from a grave threat to human life. However, this right should not be exercised when other ways are available to punish criminals and to protect society that are more respectful of human life.”
—USCCB, A Culture of Life and the Penalty of Death
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livingwordunity
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You are not taking into account hypocrisy and the irrationality of sin. People can say they want an end to the death penalty and still claim that abortion is a good thing that women can’t live without. That’s exactly what is going on in reality. It’s the same as when people called for the death of Jesus while wanting to set the convicted murderer free. There is no logic to sin.
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