Banned By the Pope

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Because of course, it couldn’t possibly be that Fr. Curran is wrong in any way. It couldn’t possibly be that the Holy Spirit was guiding the POPE and **not the estimable Fr. Curran. **

Of COURSE not. That would be ‘impossible’!
 
I’m really confused on where he is claiming changing celibacy laws will prevent some of these pedophilia scandals. If some priests are already doing it, it’s not going to change. It could actually increase. So much for being a good Catholic professor and priest…
 
Here is a quote from the essay: "But I also pointed out areas where I believed Catholicism and modern life were misaligned, including Rome’s opposition to birth control for married couples; its stance on homosexuality, divorce, and remarriage; and the status of women in the church."Father Curran has been beating this drum for many decades now. Like some liberal priests of his generation, he seems to have difficulty in accepting that the Church did not (and will not) take his advice and change its teachings on these pet issues. To do so would of course, be disastrous for the Church. It’s rather sad that magazines like Newsweek still take such things seriously.
 
I’m fed up with these few Catholic Priests moaning about celibacy. If you don’t like being celibate then you shouldn’t of become a Catholic Priest. We know from insurance returns that there is a higher rate of abuse in other denominations such as Protestantism, where the ‘‘Priests’’ are not celibate.

This rubbish about celibacy being the cause of pedophilia is absolute garbage, and is not supported by any evidence.
 
We should pray for this priest.
But let us rejoice that the Pope is doing something about this.
 
What is the definition of being a priest “in good standing”? The only time I’ve ever heard the term “in good standing” is from people like Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden who claim their beliefs and actions don’t disqualify them from being a Catholic “in good standing”. I’ve never heard a normal everyday churchgoer use that term.
 
Heresy.

And the Church does not treat women as “second-class citizens”. That’s the world, which treats them as pieces of meat.
 
The article, though short, sums up well the way that both myself and many other Catholics feel.
 
Habesha said:
We know from insurance returns that there is a higher rate of abuse in other denominations such as Protestantism, where the ‘‘Priests’’ are not celibate.
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Can you provide a reputable source for this?
 
JimG said:
Here is a quote from the essay: "But I also pointed out areas where I believed Catholicism and modern life were misaligned,
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I always thought the purpose of Catholicism was to be aligned to God, not necessarily to modern life.
 
Habesha said:
I’m fed up with these few Catholic Priests moaning about celibacy. If you don’t like being celibate then you shouldn’t of become a Catholic Priest. We know from insurance returns that there is a higher rate of abuse in other denominations such as Protestantism, where the ‘‘Priests’’ are not celibate.

This rubbish about celibacy being the cause of pedophilia is absolute garbage, and is not supported by any evidence.
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Amen to that! 👍

And besides, it’s not pedophilia that’s the cause of many abuse cases, it’s HOMOSEXUALITY! But of course, you won’t hear Newsweek or any other MSM say that-they’d be busted in the chops by the homosexual lobby! And the homosexual lobby would be whining and crying that they’re being ‘persecuted’!

Aww, grow up, why don’t 'cha? And why don’t you repent of your sins while you’re at it!

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jjdrury81 said:
Can you provide a reputable source for this?
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I found it via the Catholic Knight: catholicknight.blogspot.com/2010/03/catholic-sex-abuse-scandal-and-cover-up.html

There is ample evidence from non-biased third parties (particularly insurance companies who underwrite churches) that the problem of sexual abuse of minors and church cover-up spans all denominations and sects…

The three companies that insure the majority of Protestant churches in America say they typically receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by clergy, church staff, volunteers or congregation members.

The figures offer a glimpse into what has long been an extremely difficult phenomenon to pin down – the frequency of sex abuse in Protestant congregations.

The Chicago Sun times article had gone, but it was also reported here:

msnbc.msn.com/id/19235150/

Compare that with what was it 6 or 10 new cases reported in 2009 in the Catholic Church.
 
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I always thought the purpose of Catholicism was to be aligned to God, not necessarily to modern life.
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Good point!
Also in the article, Curran says:
“Between 1975 and today, the number of Catholic priests in the United States has slid from nearly 60,000 to about 40,000. Protestant churches, which allow their minsters to have families, have suffered no such struggles. I can only conclude that celibacy laws are to blame.
The shortage has created related problems… Some parishes are closing because no one can be found to lead them, while others remain open but no longer offer the eucharistic liturgy—the heart of Catholic faith and life—because there’s no priest to preside at it.”

IMHO, the shortage of priests has to do with the lack of faith among the people, not with the idea of celibacy. Vocations come from our Lord and are inspired by the Holy Spirit. If a person isn’t educated in the faith or comes from parents that don’t see weekly mass or prayer as important, how can that person have any chance of having a vocation?
 
barb_finnegan said:
And besides, it’s not pedophilia that’s the cause of many abuse cases, it’s HOMOSEXUALITY!
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No. That is wrong and, furthermore, extremely dangerous. That sort of thought process puts out children in harms way.
 
That both Theresa Kane RSM and Charles Curran have spoken against the Church
and in favor of female ordination in the past two days is nauseating.

Spare us, O Lord.
 
Adeodatus said:
Heresy.

And the Church does not treat women as “second-class citizens”. That’s the world, which treats them as pieces of meat.
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Yes, and the sad thing is that many women go along with this idea of being reduced to body parts. They like the power that comes from making male heads turn and think that being trashy makes them seem more liberated.
Being feminine and beautiful creates a certain dignity and calls for respect for women as they are. Real human beings. And the church already does this.
The article mentions the need for women priests. I’ve never understood why women want to be priests. Is it the idea of power that goes with being a priest? Women serve the church in many ways that are very useful. Why is it so important to some to try to become priests?
 
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