Banning Scooby Doo, am I losing it?

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My sisters and I were never allowed Romper Room because mum felt it was very commercial, showing kids with their most expensive toys etc We watched playschool where they taught you how to make cool stuff out of household objects. Also, there were no toy commercials on that station! We were quite hard-up when I was young and so my mum didn’t want us to know what kind of toys etc we were missing and start complaining about it. I think she was smart to be honest.
 
HouseArrest said:
I don’t let my kids watch anything. Shrek, Spongebob, Rugrats, and many, many other shows that “everyone else” is allowed to watch. Santa brought 2 seasons of Little House on the Prairie and that’s about it.
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We recently had a relative send us a DVD collection of the old Lucille Ball shows from the '50s. They are a treasure compared to today’s TV offerings and my kids loved them!
 
We just borrowed a set of Electric Company DVD’s from the library last week. My children LOVED them!! Those old shows are so great. In fact they are clamoring for me to buy them, they liked them so much. You don’t get quality like that much anymore, esp from PBS

btw here’s the Electric Company’s webpage–it has some audio and video clips online
sesameworkshop.org/tec/index.php

Also the old Muppet Show has been a hit around here!

Jennifer
 
Ugh all the old Scooby cartoons were showing how in the end… It was always someone pretending. I caught the end of one of the new ones and was confused. I guess this explains it.

We have now stopped allowing all most of Disney… no Cartoon Network, only a couple of shows are allowed on Nick Jr. No regular Nickelodian.

I don’t like the huge prevelance of Magic in EVERYTHING anymore. If it was one thing once in a while and we point out that it’s pretend, I’d say no big deal. But now all of them get everything fixed magically or are being oppressed with magic. Cinderellas Fairy Godmother, Matilda gets even with the mean people because she gets “powers”. I just get tired of it day in and day out. It’s like they want it to be seen as real and fun and even a good thing to try.

Lately, I use the cable service to record onto video stuff I think is acceptable. I taped the Brady Bunch marathon a couple of months ago (well a tape worth). The cable is mine and the huge trunk of tapes is for the kids. No more comercials for them, and a whole lot less evil curses, hexes, fixing all problems with magic, sex, and bad language that way.
 
Cartoon network, nickolodeon, whatever it is, my siblings are prohibited from watching. Those cartoons don’t do much for a kid anyways.

In fact, now that I think about it, everything except EWTN, PBSkids and Disney is banned.

Our tv tends to stay off except in the morning with veggietales while the older kids are doing school and in the evening if we watch a movie (family movie night is a big thing at our house).
 
Saint_Michael said:
I noticed my son watching scooby doo and it focused on a guy trying to find out about a lost relative who was a “righteous wiccan healer”. Well the team found a book which turned out to be a spell book, as it turns out this relative was actually a “black magic witch”, and she could only be sent back into the spell book by a “righteous wiccan”. But at the end it had a band playing and everyone dancing, the band was called “HEX”, and the song went something like Earth, Wind/Air, Fire, Water, loving the Earth is all you need, love the Earth is all you do" or something to that effect.

This is a straight up pagan right? Or am I losing it? I know Earth, Air, Fire, Water is pagan and its roots are in elemental magic, tarot, wicca etc…

So I banned Scooby Doo, am I losing it and looking for the boogeyman that isn’t there? Or did someone who writes for scooby doo try to slip one past us, and influence viewing children toward accepting wicca?

This is almost as bad as when spongebob and patrick for some reason had huge muscles (wrestling match), wearing bikinis’, and holding hands. I was like O.K. these two are weird but please I’m not that stupid.
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Didn’t the movie have something about stealing souls in it as well?
 
TimOliv said:
Didn’t the movie have something about stealing souls in it as well?
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I think it might have, can’t remember. The little MErmaid definately has stuff about stealing souls. My mother bought it for my kiddo. “Well, It’s Disney!” my mom said. Disney is full of stuff I don’t want my kid watching now a days. I let her have Cinderella and I have to fast foreward the previews because they are inappropriate for kids.

I’m salking up on old kids movies like Pollyanna and Caddie Woodlawn. Someone else mentioned Little House on the Prarie, I should get some of those too.
 
Noggin is the ONLY station my 5yo DD can watch.

Little Bear is the absolute best of the best. If you can’t get Noggin (or Nick Jr.) find Little Bear on tape and DVD.

Calming music, beautiful animation, friendly, polite characters, and loving parents.

Mama Bear did growl at Papa Bear once when he implied another “little bear” might be nice.

Sponge Bob is ABSOLUTELY banned from our house. He is just so ugly - I want my DD’s expectations of artwork being much higher than if she gets used to looking at that stuff!

Time for bed! Thanks for the chance to vent and recommend Little Bear!!!

Debbie
 
Debbie said:
Noggin is the ONLY station my 5yo DD can watch.

Little Bear is the absolute best of the best. If you can’t get Noggin (or Nick Jr.) find Little Bear on tape and DVD.

Calming music, beautiful animation, friendly, polite characters, and loving parents.

Mama Bear did growl at Papa Bear once when he implied another “little bear” might be nice.

Sponge Bob is ABSOLUTELY banned from our house. He is just so ugly - I want my DD’s expectations of artwork being much higher than if she gets used to looking at that stuff!

Time for bed! Thanks for the chance to vent and recommend Little Bear!!!

Debbie
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I love Little Bear. It is so calm. Another good one is the Babar videos, you know the elephant.
 
Little_Mary said:
Three cheers for Little Bear!!! He is my absolute favorite!!!
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He is definitely the best cartoon bear around. However, when I was in the service, we used to have Spongebob Parties (we were stationed overseas and only got to watch a few shows in English, we got hooked on the stupid sponge). I think Spongebob is a pretty decent adult cartoon (like the Simpsons or Family Guy).

But Patrick, you already ate it. Bla-hahahahahahahahahaha!
 
I also saw that episode,- my children were watching it- and I made them turn it off. Then we had a discussion about witchcraft, the occult, and what the bible has to say about this.
I try to use discernment- I probably let my children watch more than most of My evangelical friends(I have a friend who was critical of my letting my children watch Dragpon Tales when they were little) but anything that has blatant promotion of the occult(such as this), showing kids mouthing off to parents, or violence,gets switched off in our house.
My kids(10 and 12) can watch some Cartoon Network, but most of it I don’t approve of.
 
Vanny said:
I also saw that episode,- my children were watching it- and I made them turn it off. Then we had a discussion about witchcraft, the occult, and what the bible has to say about this.
I try to use discernment- I probably let my children watch more than most of My evangelical friends(I have a friend who was critical of my letting my children watch Dragpon Tales when they were little) but anything that has blatant promotion of the occult(such as this), showing kids mouthing off to parents, or violence,gets switched off in our house.
My kids(10 and 12) can watch some Cartoon Network, but most of it I don’t approve of.
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What’s wrong with dragontales?! I’ve always enjoyed that show!
 
a_cermak said:
Actually the group singing was the Hex Girls. And the show did take pains to show that the group was a normal group of girls, one of whom was a pagan and used herbs to clear her sore throat. The fangs etc. were shown to be fake, just part of their stage gig. The Hex Girls show up two more times in What’s New Scooby Doo episodes, but just as a girl band, no pagan references. I don’t see this example of pagan reference being any different from the Good and Bad witches of the Wizard of Oz.

I’ve not seen any other really pagan references. Of course witches show up from time to time (e.g. Scooby Doo on Zombie Island) but only as handy villains.

However, if you’re uncomfortable, you’re free to ban whatever you want in your own home.
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That isn’t exactly true, while the HEX girls turned out to be normal girls, the witch in the show was definitely an evil witch and not a fake one, and she did say that only a “righteous wiccan healer” could imprison her in the spell book again.

The Pagan reference is really the song at the end stating all you need to do is love the Earth and celebrating Earth Air Fire and Water, (the four ancient elements still used in pagan worship). And the eluding to only a righteous wiccan deal. I mean the cartoon acted like wicca was great and the norm and not something a bit unusual, which isn’t reality.

I don’t know I really think the writers of Scooby Doo were trying to pull a fast one on that episode.
 
Saint_Michael said:
That isn’t exactly true, while the HEX girls turned out to be normal girls, the witch in the show was definitely an evil witch and not a fake one, and she did say that only a “righteous wiccan healer” could imprison her in the spell book again.

The Pagan reference is really the song at the end stating all you need to do is love the Earth and celebrating Earth Air Fire and Water, (the four ancient elements still used in pagan worship). And the eluding to only a righteous wiccan deal. I mean the cartoon acted like wicca was great and the norm and not something a bit unusual, which isn’t reality.

I don’t know I really think the writers of Scooby Doo were trying to pull a fast one on that episode.
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You might be right. I can’t believe how many people really are leaving Christianity to become “pagans”. It is weird. It seems like it is a joke but it isn’t.
 
Saint_Michael:

Right up there in the "should be banned " group is that cartoon fowl mouthed little kid that’s always picking his nose. I forget the name of the show, but he’s a roundish character always wearing a winter ear flap cap and breaks wind on a dime. He’s got a bad attitude as a character trait, and not just when the theme calls for it. Maybe some of you remember the name of the show. I asked my son to make sure my grandkids are tuned out of that one.

I was sitting when the kids were watching, and I put down my paper and couldn’t believe what I was hearing. What clinched it was the time he started to put down his parents.

BTW: Want to get something very inspirational for your kids, get The Miracle of Marcellino, that is the older version, circa 50’s with spanish actors and english subtitles. Doesn’t run long but a very wholesome and cute story.

Andy
 
AndyF said:
Saint_Michael:

Right up there in the "should be banned " group is that cartoon fowl mouthed little kid that’s always picking his nose. I forget the name of the show, but he’s a roundish character always wearing a winter ear flap cap and breaks wind on a dime. He’s got a bad attitude as a character trait, and not just when the theme calls for it.
Andy
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The only thing I can think of like that is South Park, which isn’t allowed on my TV for adults!!!
 
Saint_Michael said:
I noticed my son watching scooby doo and it focused on a guy trying to find out about a lost relative who was a “righteous wiccan healer”. Well the team found a book which turned out to be a spell book, as it turns out this relative was actually a “black magic witch”, and she could only be sent back into the spell book by a “righteous wiccan”. But at the end it had a band playing and everyone dancing, the band was called “HEX”, and the song went something like Earth, Wind/Air, Fire, Water, loving the Earth is all you need, love the Earth is all you do" or something to that effect.

This is a straight up pagan right? Or am I losing it? I know Earth, Air, Fire, Water is pagan and its roots are in elemental magic, tarot, wicca etc…

So I banned Scooby Doo, am I losing it and looking for the boogeyman that isn’t there? Or did someone who writes for scooby doo try to slip one past us, and influence viewing children toward accepting wicca?

This is almost as bad as when spongebob and patrick for some reason had huge muscles (wrestling match), wearing bikinis’, and holding hands. I was like O.K. these two are weird but please I’m not that stupid.
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Scooby Doo has always had these themes in it. They have always dealt with the occult and “scary things.”

Used to be it always turned out to be old man smithers in a costume. But not always. Their Halloween episodes usually had an ending where you were left thinking it could have been real. Then later, but no too recently, they started dealing with more and more “real” ghosts and goblins.

I for one don’t care. It’s a cartoon. It’s obvioulsy fake. Kids know this. The fact that it’s a cartoon discredits on it’s own any pagen beliefs brought up in it. Kids will quickly learn to associate pagen beliefs with make believe cartoons. This is partly why most of society laughs at pagens anyway. We’ve all grown up laughing at them on TV and in stories.

For these reasons, I don’t think it’s harmful to children.

I have, however, also banned cartoon network in my home. Not for pagen junk, but for the language! Why do we as a society allow cartoon creaters to have a little cartoon kid calling his friends and family names? Same with Nickalodean. I’ve banned both for allowing words like stupid, idiot, cry baby, dumb, butt head. Even if the words they used were more benign, why are these characters enforcing behaviors like name calling? Far more worrisome than laughable pagen stories.
 
masondoggy said:
What’s wrong with dragontales?! I’ve always enjoyed that show!
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Nothing, in my opinion!!LOL!! I had no problem letting my kids watch that show when they were little.
My friends objection was that the kids (in the show) said “I wish I wish” and then were whisked away to some magical place- I personally did not have a problem with that.
 
As far as story and content go, *Dragontales *is unoffensive. But if you are concerned with imagery, check out Michael O’Brien’s book, *A Landscape with Dragons. *His thesis (which I haven’t entirely decided I agree with by the way) is that one of the manifestations of modern culture’s slide into neo-paganism is recasting of Christian images. In Christianity the dragon always is a symbol for evil. And when this is recast as the friendly or just misunderstood dragon, it is an attempt (perhaps not consciously) to get us to chuck the traditional images and open us up to suspicious alternatives.

At first I dismissed this as being over-scrupulous. Then I saw the wildly popular Dragonology books. I was uneasy at things like the Dragonologist’s Oath among other things, but I still didn’t worry much about it. THEN I saw the sequal *Wizardology. *This book has direct and unambiguous pagan material like the pantheist motto, “As above, so below” and such.

So while I would pobably not get bent in a wad about *Dragontales, *keep in mind where this can go. The lure of the spurious glitter of the occult is tempting, and increasing in influence, and requires vigilence.
 
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