Baptism-help me understand

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question what is mortal sin? how many are there?.
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Mortal sin or serious, grave is the knowing and willful violation of God’s law in a serious matter, for example, idolatry, adultery, murder, slander. Mortal sin is called mortal because it is the “spiritual” death of the soul (separation from God). If we are in the state of grace it loses this supernatural life for us. If we die without repenting we will lose Him for eternity.

How many? It is like asking how many ways we can go against the Ten Commandments. Many – as long as they are committed knowingly and willfully.
 
total_relism said:
that is not good.

so baptism only removes original sin? just wondering when it said jesus dies for our own sins, what do you see that as?.

did his death remove all sins we commit up to the baptism?.and baptism only removes original sin?not our sins? just wondering how the church supports that bionically.
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Baptism, removes all sin, but an infant is incapable of having personal sin. So when an infant is baptized only original sin is removed, because there is no personal sin. But when an adult is baptized both original sin and personal sin is removed.
 
Reuben_J said:
Mortal sin or serious, grave is the knowing and willful violation of God’s law in a serious matter, for example, idolatry, adultery, murder, slander. Mortal sin is called mortal because it is the “spiritual” death of the soul (separation from God). If we are in the state of grace it loses this supernatural life for us. If we die without repenting we will lose Him for eternity.

How many? It is like asking how many ways we can go against the Ten Commandments. Many – as long as they are committed knowingly and willfully.
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so any sin committed knowingly and willfully is a mortal sin? needs to be seen by a priest and brought back in right relationship with god about?
 
total_relism said:
so any sin committed knowingly and willfully is a mortal sin? needs to be seen by a priest and brought back in right relationship with god about?
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Yes, in the case of serious sins. It is also a good practice to freqently confess our venial sins, as well.
 
total_relism said:
so any sin committed knowingly and willfully is a mortal sin? needs to be seen by a priest and brought back in right relationship with god about?
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Any sin of grave matter that is committed knowingly and willfully is a mortal sin and the penitant needs to go to Confession to be brought back into a state of grace.

There is no such thing as once saved always saved.
 
jmcrae said:
Yes, in the case of serious sins. It is also a good practice to freqently confess our venial sins, as well.
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thistle said:
Any sin of grave matter that is committed knowingly and willfully is a mortal sin and the penitant needs to go to Confession to be brought back into a state of grace.

There is no such thing as once saved always saved.
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could you guys provide catholic teachings on this for me?.
 
Few more questions please help.

1] At the moment of baptism [adult] the person put’s full faith and trust in jesus sacrifice to forgive them their sin, that moment they are cleansed of all sin by jesus and fully forgiven.

2] I hear a relative say there are two baptisms, infant, and adult called** baptism of fire**. Is this true and what is the difference?.

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“Baptism of fire” is a term used to describe a trial or test that someone new to an experience undergoes…such as a soldier’s first live combat situation.

However, I suspect that what you mean is “Baptism of Desire”.

The baptism of desire refers to those individuals with faith in Christ who would be baptized if they had the opportunity and if they truly understood what baptism means. It applies to those who, due to extraordinary circumstances, do not have access to water for baptism. But the New Testament indicates that what we call “baptism of desire” is the case for the Old Testament saints. Noah and his family were “saved through water” in the flood, (2 Pet. 2:5) and the Hebrew children were baptized “into Moses in the cloud and the Red Sea” (1 Cor. 10:2). This suggests that baptism of desire may also extend to those who have pre-Christian faith or to non-Christians who have faith according to the level of their knowledge, but have never heard the Christian gospel.

It may also apply to those who have faith in Christ, but have not been baptized because they truly and sincerely (because of false teaching received in goodwill) do not believe that baptism is necessary. Even in these cases, however, it should be understood that the Church teaches that such individuals “may” be saved, not that they are saved.
 
total_relism said:
Few more questions please help.

1] At the moment of baptism [adult] the person put’s full faith and trust in jesus sacrifice to forgive them their sin, that moment they are cleansed of all sin by jesus and fully forgiven.

2] I hear a relative say there are two baptisms, infant, and adult called** baptism of fire**. Is this true and what is the difference?.

thanks
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2 could be referring tk the sacrament of confirmation?
 
total_relism said:
Few more questions please help.

1] At the moment of baptism [adult] the person put’s full faith and trust in jesus sacrifice to forgive them their sin, that moment they are cleansed of all sin by jesus and fully forgiven.

thanks
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Not sure exactly what you are asking for here. An adult must understand and accept Christ (and the Church for a Catholic baptism) before baptism. This doesn’t have to happen at the moment of baptism (in fact it should never happen their because the priest would make sure the person is ready for baptism before doing it), this could have happened anytime while the person was studying and preparing for baptism. After that, the baptizee doesn’t have to do anything. It is the water and the Holy Spirit which pours out God’s graces, forgiveness of sin and brings them into the body of Christ.

I suggest you read this vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c1a1.htm
1239 The essential rite of the sacrament follows: Baptism properly speaking. It signifies and actually brings about death to sin and entry into the life of the Most Holy Trinity through configuration to the Paschal mystery of Christ.
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1229 From the time of the apostles, becoming a Christian has been accomplished by a journey and initiation in several stages. This journey can be covered rapidly or slowly, but certain essential elements will always have to be present: proclamation of the Word, acceptance of the Gospel entailing conversion, profession of faith, Baptism itself, the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, and admission to Eucharistic communion.
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