Odd that you say I shouldn’t be offended by your claims about Baptists, but then you turn around and waste no time feigning offense at mine.
Yeah, see that sort of feigned ignorance isn’t going to fly here. I used to be a Baptist from a family of various types of Baptists. If you have had much experience with various Baptist congregations then you know exactly what I’m talking about. I have an aunt and a cousin that attend one. So sorry they are out there but as I said it is a minority. Its interesting you’re pretending to be offended when those who attend those Churchs would be proud of what I described.
By the way I wasn’t feigning offense at what you said about The Church you’re just ignorant of history. I used to be the same way. I sympathize with you, I’m not angry at you for your statements.
OK. What Baptist holds this view and, if this is true, why have Baptists established some of the finest colleges and universities and seminaries in the world?
Never claimed otherwise. I attended a Baptist college. That’s what happens when you’re only looking to be offended and argumentative. It causes you to not read things through.
My aunt, and cousin attend a Missionary Baptist Church. My parents were Hard Shell Baptists (when they were younger) they had a similar out look. Additionally, region can have an impact on this as Baptist Churches tend to be highly democratic and autonamous. If you’re Baptist then you know that there can be a drastic difference in practice between congregations even whenin the same denomination. Even in larger more organized denoms like the SBC one can find Churches that range from Fundamentalist to conservative to very liberal.
Could you please show an example of Protestants or Baptists killing Catholics in the name of “anti-intellectualism”?
A History of the Rise and Influence of Rationalism in Europe (1865): The Presbyterians through a long succession of reigns were imprisoned, branded, mutilated, scourged, and exposed in the pillory. Many Catholics under false pretences were tortured and hung. Anabaptists and Arians were burned alive … In Scotland, during nearly the whole period that the Stuarts were on the throne of England, a persecution rivalling in atrocity almost any on record was directed by the English government, at the instigation of the Scotch bishops, and with the approbation of the English church, against all who repudiated episcopacy … The Presbyterians were hunted like criminals over the mountains. Their ears were torn from the roots. They were branded with hot irons. Their fingers were wrenched asunder by thumbkins. The bones of their legs were shattered in the boots. Women were scourged publicly through the streets. Multitudes were transported to Barbados, infuriated soldiers were let loose upon them, and encouraged to exercise all their ingenuity in torturing them …
The Protestants in continental Europe were no better than their British counterparts. In Switzerland many Anabaptist [a] were executed by drowning, considered by many a fitting end to these “double baptizers”. The Anabaptists were not the only people persecuted by the Calvinists; the freethinker Gentilis was killed by the axe, while the Unitarian Servetus was burned at the stake.
In Holland, where Calvinism was the official religion, things were not much better. In the seventeenth century, there flourished a Christian sect called Aminianism which teaches a modified doctrine of predestination. They were not tolerated by the Dutch Calvinists. The Arminian Barneveldt was beheaded as a traitor in 1619, while another prominet Arminian, Grotius, was sentenced to life imprisonment.
Haught, Holy Horrors: p109-111
Knight, Humanist Anthology: p113-114
Robertson, History of Christianity: p206-207
I was just pointing out an historical fact. Why, I’m sure I didn’t mean it as an insult.
Oh, just helping out eh? Strange you took offence when I just pointed out a current fact.
I believe that Catholics pray to those who have died, whom they believe have special spiritual authorities and can grant them favor with God.
Correction, Catholics pray to and with those who are joined with them in the Body of Christ. These are those who have gone on to experience Life Everlasting. The fact that we are dying but they have life eternal does not seperate us. I appreciate the fact that stated what you thought we believed clearly though.
I suppose I could answer it a fifth time, but I don’t see the point. If you couldn’t understand it the first four times, I don’t see why you would understand it now.
He couldn’t understand because your answers have been incomplete or self-contradictory. You either believe that heaven is populated with death or you believe those who are with Christ are alive for evermore. There isn’t a middle ground on this one.
