Because we have faith that all scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and that God would not allow his Holy Bible to be paganized. There has to be one true version that was preserved through the Dark Ages, otherwise we are ALL erring in the faith.
Okay…if the SDA is so squared away with it’s teachings, can you explain to us how you can believe that Jesus and the Archangel Michael are one and the same?
First of all, there is no hate involved, as I have stated REPEATEDLY. Many Adventists have come out of Catholicism and do not hate their family, friends, etc. There is nothing cultish about Adventism. If it is different than you, its a cult? The vision of the net of animals, if you go back a couple verses, it was talking about the Gentiles. And a couple of verses after that, he tells them to go out and preach, not go out and eat. The avoiding certain foods is a choice not a doctrine as so often said. We are not kosher. I only have 1 fridge! And as far as the Michael thing, it is not a 4 person issue. We believe that Jesus is God, once man, creator, intercessor, friend, and at sometimes, warrior. Just like I am a wife, mother, daughter, friend, and sometimes, warrior! lol Thats where we stand.
So from the year 100AD to 1700AD there was nobody who was preaching an undefiled Christian gospel? and even at 1700 wasnt enough, the millerite and then SDAs, that means it really came around during the 1800’s.
Yes… but SDA actions and behavior appears hateful. To label other Christian organizations as the “Beast” and the “anti-christ” is certainly not a loving thing that one does to foster a good relationship. Yet this is exactly what Adventism does.
I like your style! I wish more people followed it. We should all be out to learn as much as we can without trying to kill each other.I have noticed alot of ideas and questions about Adventism and our beliefs. Now, dont attack me with questions because I’m not that fast a typer, but if you have any basic questions on our fundamental beliefs, go ahead and ask. Maybe we can come to a better understanding of each other.
Interpretation is always different to different religious groups. I concede the point about choice. I looked it up and it is a belief. But IT IS A BELIEF, just like anything. I never claimed to be a theology major or anything. There were people who were postulating that Adventists say Catholics arent Christian. I had to answer that. I did not open this thread to discuss the intricasies of doctrine. Just to lay to rest some general negative beliefs. Many people have come and said that they know that we dont hate you. And you should know that! There is no hate. Do you think people delight in naming the beast and the whore no matter which denomination it is? It is done sadly and with much prayer. I’m sorry you had a negative expereience.
Thank you. I appreciate that! Especially right now!
I just wanted to tell people that there is no judgement placed upon Catholics from my denomination. There is the same old protestant view of the problem with the pope and his authority, but as Christians, we actually have a great deal more in common than not.Even the Jews in Jesus’ time werent doing it right according to Jesus himself. Adventists studied the Bible, found the main beliefs held today, and put them into practice. Is that something we should be called a cult for? To be guided by the HS and our conscious rather than whats popular? Why dont we take all of this info and direct it at lost souls, athiests, etc. Instead of the IM RIGHT and YOUR WRONG onslaught? Dont you agree?
There were Jews doing it right and Jesus openly praises them (for example those who recognized Him and followed him), however there were also ones who rejected Him and He showed them who was boss.
SDAGirl,
I am starting to realize that a certain amount of dialogue is good but people have a hard time accepting differenced without the YOUR WRONG attitude. I have Never Once in ANY post said that any Catholic viewpoint is wrong. Do you know how many times I have been told? countless. I understand I am like a flea on the back of your site, but I just had to address some misconceptions about our feelings toward the world. If nothing else, I hope you know that there is at least one Adventist who does not judge, dislike, hate, or have any negative feelings whatsoever towards you or any person. I’m sorry, but I have to take offense to alot of these postings in which we are accused of not being christian but a cult, not believing in the trinity, praying to ellen white instead of god, etc. Just as you take offense to the anti-christ stance. I was hoping that we could speak on loving and accepting terms. I am not here to convert anyone. I think all would agree we have enough differences to take up alot of space, but I didnt want MORE differences that were untrue to be circulated. I was just trying to help you know that you are not hated no matter what anyone says. Thats all. I hope it got thru.
I don’t recall anyone saying that Adventists weren’t Christians, or that you don’t believe in the Trinity, or that you pray to E. G. White instead of God, etc. I do think that most of us are more informed on SDAism than that.
SDAGirl, the very premise of your religion is that you are part of the remnant and that all others are following less than the fullness of the truth. You may not want to directly tell people they are wrong, but your very assertion of a different doctrine infers that the other is wrong.
Why not? Do you believe we are right?
Why do you think that is?
You seem very sweet, and you are always welcome on the site, but it is unreasonable not to expect to be told you are wrong.
I have never heard of praying to ellen white… thats a new one to me… LOL But it is true that Adventism did not believe in the Trinity when it was first organized and up until the middle 1950’s, this denial of the basic belief in the Trinity took Adventism outside the pale of Christianity. Since the early 1900’s Adventism has gradually accepted the Trinity and changed their beliefs, and have accepted the Catholic doctrine of God. You can verify this in the SDA published book Issues and other papers written by SDA scholars and historians. So you can see why some people have not come around to understand that the SDA Church is now following a Christian doctrine of God?
That is true, and thus the Church would have regarded SDAs as non-Christian had they held on to that belief. Belief in the Trinity is essential for the basis of Christianity.
SDAGirl, the very premise of your religion is that you are part of the remnant and that all others are following less than the fullness of the truth. You may not want to directly tell people they are wrong, but your very assertion of a different doctrine infers that the other is wrong.
Why not? Do you believe we are right?
Why do you think that is?
You seem very sweet, and you are always welcome on the site, but it is unreasonable not to expect to be told you are wrong.
I have never heard of praying to ellen white… thats a new one to me… LOL But it is true that Adventism did not believe in the Trinity when it was first organized and up until the middle 1950’s, this denial of the basic belief in the Trinity took Adventism outside the pale of Christianity
. Since the early 1900’s Adventism has gradually accepted the Trinity and changed their beliefs, and have accepted the Catholic doctrine of God. You can verify this in the SDA published book Issues and other papers written by SDA scholars and historians. So you can see why some people have not come around to understand that the SDA Church is now following a Christian doctrine of God?
We don’t need to try to street preacher’s “y’all are goin’ to HELL!” tactics certainly, but the Faith demands that we must give witness to the Truth of the Faith. The Faith cannot just say “I’m OK and you’re OK”-Truth is Truth.
Do you believe in objective truth?
There is one Christ, one Church, one Doctrine, one Faith. They left because their pride and error would not let them submit in obedience to their legitimate superiors. If there is not a True Faith, how can we ever know if anything is right?
It started with your own church-
There’s a test? What test?
The passage is clearly saying Jesus can not be everywhere at once and thus the Holy Spirit has to do it for him thus Ellen White is denying that Jesus is omnipresent. Since, all three members of the trinity are co-equal Jesus in and of himself would be omnipresent without the Holy Spirit doing it for him. Read the whole passage.