Becoming a deacon

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how would someone become a deacon? how would you become a deacon to a priest? how would you become a priest to a bishop? how would you become a bishop to an arch bishop? how do you become a cardinal to become the Pope? and what are the differences between a Nun, Sister, and a Mother.

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Deacon: Apply to your bishop. If found worthy, either 3 years of formation in seminary, or (usually) 4-6 years of 1-2 evening classes weekly and a weekend a month. If married, must get wife’s permission.

Priest: get an undergraduate degree. Then apply to your bishop; ordained a deacon at end of 3rd year or start of 4th year of seminary; ordained a priest at or shortly after graduation. If Eastern Catholic, must get wife’s permission as well; if latin and not a convert minister, must be celibate (unmarried) and supposed to be chaste; If latin and a convert minister, must have wife’s permission and your bishop must get rome’s permission.

Bishop: must be unmarried priest (historically widower priests also were allowed). Must have been a priest 5+ years, must have a Doctoral degree in either theology, canon law, or “equivalent experience,” mustn’t be over 65. Get nominated by either the church sui iuris’ synod/council of hierarchs, or by your roman bishop; get picked by your patriarch, major archbishop, or the pope from amongst the nominees; accept the invitation; then get ordained by 2-3 bishops.
 
bendover1 said:
how would someone become a deacon? how would you become a deacon to a priest? how would you become a priest to a bishop? how would you become a bishop to an arch bishop? how do you become a cardinal to become the Pope? and what are the differences between a Nun, Sister, and a Mother.

please reply 🙂

God bless

-Ben Dover
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This is a troll, please do not respond!

Moderators, please remove this post. His nick name is Ben Dover…get it “bend over”

He’s a troll trying to mock people here. no one who knows anything about Catholicism would ask these types of questions.
 
This may be an odd question, but…

If I were to become a Permanent Deacon in one Diocese and then desire to move in retirement to a Diocese in another state, is it possible? Once you are a Deacon, are you tied to the Diocese you are ordained in? How does that part of it work?
 
rlg94086 said:
This may be an odd question, but…

If I were to become a Permanent Deacon in one Diocese and then desire to move in retirement to a Diocese in another state, is it possible? Once you are a Deacon, are you tied to the Diocese you are ordained in? How does that part of it work?
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If one has not retired, one needs one’s bishop’s permission to move out of the diocese without sanction, just like priests do. To actually remain functioning requires the receiving bishop grant faculties and/or incardination as well as having permission from the bishop whose see one is leaving. The process of obtaining the permission can be as simple as asking, or as complex as requiring application to excardinate… it’s the bishop’s call…

Once retired, faculties can still be granted, but the expectation to excardinate from the old and incardinate into the new is much reduced. It is still possible to go through the excardination and incardination process, which formally transfers one from one diocese’s clergy to another.
 
Aramis said:
If one has not retired, one needs one’s bishop’s permission to move out of the diocese without sanction, just like priests do. To actually remain functioning requires the receiving bishop grant faculties and/or incardination as well as having permission from the bishop whose see one is leaving. The process of obtaining the permission can be as simple as asking, or as complex as requiring application to excardinate… it’s the bishop’s call…

Once retired, faculties can still be granted, but the expectation to excardinate from the old and incardinate into the new is much reduced. It is still possible to go through the excardination and incardination process, which formally transfers one from one diocese’s clergy to another.
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Thanks…I thought that might be the case. Is there a set retirement age - min and/or max?
 
rlg94086 said:
Thanks…I thought that might be the case. Is there a set retirement age - min and/or max?
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In most places, yes.

Pastors and bishops, per canon law, are supposed to resign at 75. Most other clerics are expected to resign at similar age, and local particular law may require same.
 
We have a permanent diaconate retirement age, but you can continue and do what you have been doing if you ask the bishop and your pastor is on board. This is actually a great time to minister. Our retired deacons are not required to do any paperwork and not required to submit the required education hours each year. We had a deacon transfer to another state and he had to work with his faculties from his old bishop. Incardination takes a while for both priests and deacons. Your new assignment gets to look you over for a few years and decide that you are not going to cause any grief to the receiving bishop…then they incardinate you! 😃
 
plato3 said:
We have a permanent diaconate retirement age, but you can continue and do what you have been doing if you ask the bishop and your pastor is on board. This is actually a great time to minister. Our retired deacons are not required to do any paperwork and not required to submit the required education hours each year. We had a deacon transfer to another state and he had to work with his faculties from his old bishop. Incardination takes a while for both priests and deacons. Your new assignment gets to look you over for a few years and decide that you are not going to cause any grief to the receiving bishop…then they incardinate you! 😃
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Hmm…maybe I should wait to determine where my wife is okay with retirement before approaching a diocese about the diaconate. I’m not sure whether I would cause any grief or not as a Deacon, but a bishop with second look would definitely have an advantage over the first one. 😉 😃
 
I’ve been discerning the diaconate locally in St. Louis for a few years, and the result of my reflection has been a “no” - in the sense of I don’t think that’s the direction God wants me to go.

So what can a married lay person do to help build the kingdom outside the home (since obviously my responsibility is to my family)?
 
losh14 said:
I’ve been discerning the diaconate locally in St. Louis for a few years, and the result of my reflection has been a “no” - in the sense of I don’t think that’s the direction God wants me to go.

So what can a married lay person do to help build the kingdom outside the home (since obviously my responsibility is to my family)?
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See to it you have a regular prayer life with the family at home; a home shrine as well. Strongly reward appropriate participation in church activities, including attending of liturgies.

Take you kids to confession regularly.
 
losh14 said:
I’ve been discerning the diaconate locally in St. Louis for a few years, and the result of my reflection has been a “no” - in the sense of I don’t think that’s the direction God wants me to go.

So what can a married lay person do to help build the kingdom outside the home (since obviously my responsibility is to my family)?
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To repeat what St Francis allegedly said: Preach the Gospel at all times. If necessary, use words.

Or: Actions speak louder than words. Never hesitate to evangelize; and the primary way is how you conduct yourself in the workplace as well as home. You don’t need to sound like a street preacher or some over-the-edge evangelical to let people know that you follow Christ. Treat all you meet as if Christ Himself were in front of you; you should not need to focus on much more. If someone asks you a question and you can’t give a solid answer right there, tell them you will get back to them. Then do so.
 
losh14 said:
I’ve been discerning the diaconate locally in St. Louis for a few years, and the result of my reflection has been a “no” - in the sense of I don’t think that’s the direction God wants me to go.

So what can a married lay person do to help build the kingdom outside the home (since obviously my responsibility is to my family)?
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Many married lay people have greatly helped with engaged encounter and other pre-marriage programs. Families are becoming an endangered species.
 
Hello all,

This is a very interesting discussion. Glad I found the thread. Without meaning to hijack the thread, I do have a question that I think could be answered by most of the contributors to this discussion.

Can a Deacon become a Chaplain in the US Army? I know that a Priest certainly can become a Chaplain, but since a Deacon is ordained can he become a Chaplain as well?

Thank you for any and all answers.
 
This has come up before, and I believe that currently only priests can become Catholic military chaplains. Assume this is because of sacramental needs that a deacon cannot meet. One of our deacons is in the Air National Guard, and he’s a “chaplain’s assistant.”
 
Matt,

Thank you for your answer. You confirmed my assumptions. I am in the Army and I would have asked our Chaplain, however, he is deployed at the moment.

Wish it were a different story.

Thanks again.
 
JSimmons said:
Hello all,

This is a very interesting discussion. Glad I found the thread. Without meaning to hijack the thread, I do have a question that I think could be answered by most of the contributors to this discussion.

Can a Deacon become a Chaplain in the US Army? I know that a Priest certainly can become a Chaplain, but since a Deacon is ordained can he become a Chaplain as well?

Thank you for any and all answers.
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They can become Chaplain’s Assistants; I’ve met one. They can not become chaplains proper. A deacon who is a Military Chaplain’s Assistant is also normally placed under the omophor of the Military Ordinariate.
 
JSimmons said:
Matt,

Thank you for your answer. You confirmed my assumptions. I am in the Army and I would have asked our Chaplain, however, he is deployed at the moment.

Wish it were a different story.

Thanks again.
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We currently have a seminarian who was a chaplain’s assistant in the army. He does not have too far to go and thinks about returning to the Army as a priest.🙂
 
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