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Hello all,

I am looking for some help for ways that I can be very traditional in my Catholicism while not being able to make it to an Extraordinary Form Mass. I want to know some prayers, spiritual exercises, books, &c., that can increase my devotion to God while increasing my traditionalism.

I know it would start with like pray the rosary only 15 decades not 20. Or, pray it in Latin. I love the Latin language and I am pretty good with it so that would be no real problem.

Any suggestions or ways that I can be more traditional would be appreciated.

How about are there any EF Parishes that do video broadcasts of the mass online?

Blessings!

Landon
 
congratulations on your interest and journey into the faith of the Catholic Church.

first and foremost, tradition means the teachings of the Church, which includes its perspectives on the meaning of scripture, and it also includes public and private worship and devotion.

you can’t be more traditional than participating in the Mass and Eucharist. The Eucharist is the source and summit of our Christian life.

The focus is always Jesus.

Jesus said “Hear O Israel the Lord our God, the Lord is one God. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.”

the letter of James says that our faith is dead without works. Your life must be transformed into Christ.

Every day, you may want to meditate on this. “OK, so now I’m a Catholic, united with Christ. So how will my life be different today, in accordance with the commands of Christ?”

In this regards, each of us confronts a different challenge each day.
 
Hello all,

I am looking for some help for ways that I can be very traditional in my Catholicism while not being able to make it to an Extraordinary Form Mass. I want to know some prayers, spiritual exercises, books, &c., that can increase my devotion to God while increasing my traditionalism.

I know it would start with like pray the rosary only 15 decades not 20. Or, pray it in Latin. I love the Latin language and I am pretty good with it so that would be no real problem.

Any suggestions or ways that I can be more traditional would be appreciated.

How about are there any EF Parishes that do video broadcasts of the mass online?

Blessings!

Landon
The Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter has a website dedicated to this: livemass.net

Schedule for Live broadcasts as of June 5 (times are Eastern):

Sunday:
8:30 am - Low Mass from Florida
10:30 am - High Mass from Florida
1:00 pm - High Mass from Mexico
8:00 pm - Low Mass from Mexico

Monday, Wednesday, Thursday & Saturday
9:00 am - Florida
8:00 pm - Mexico

Tuesday:
9:00 am - Florida
6:30 pm - Florida

Friday:
9:00 am - Florida
6:30 pm - Florida
8:00 pm - Mexico

A noon broadcast, Mon - Sat from Mexico will be added in the near future.

A Google Group and mailing list exists (link).

I would also consider finding out more and possibly joining the Confraternitas Sancti Petri.

Personally, I have done all of the above, and I always pray in Latin the Rosary and in general all major prayers. I try to pray the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin (though I haven’t switched to the Latin one yet - provided by FSSP) and in the Compline I recite the Confiteor in Latin.

The Holy Hour is definitely a practice worth incorporating to your prayer life.

About Mass:

I personally always receive Communion kneeling, on the tongue. This is fully allowed and still the official way to receive Communion in the Church (as per the Instruction Memoriale Domini on the Manner of Distributing Holy Communion) although in the US it is allowed to receive Communion in the hand by a special dispensation requested to and granted by the Holy See. Other little nuisances I keep in mind: genuflection when Blessed Sacrament is exposed, kneeling when passing in front of the tabernacle, slow sign of the cross, bow of head every time the name of Jesus is mentioned, not holding but rather folding hands during Pater Noster.

Also, it used to be the case that at least the Minor Orders were required to touch the Sacred Vessels. This is why, serving in the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, we wear gloves when preparing for the Mass. Because of this, I refrain from receiving Communion from the Chalice. This practice is quite new, for Communion under both species was not a characteristic of the tradition of the Latin church, and in the Eastern rites is done exclusively by intinction.

I have found it beneficial sometimes to participate in the Mass of Eastern Catholic rites to experience the delightful diversity of the traditional liturgy. The Byzantine rite is an experience worth living - just make sure the Church is actually an Eastern Catholic in full communion with Rome - ex, Melkite.

Ah…and keep away from ultra-traditionalist groups, websites, etc. They are no good. We must always pray for our Holy Father and recall the words of the great Jerome:
Ego nullum primum, nisi Christum sequens … cathedrae Petri, cummunione consciour. Super illam Petram aedificatam Ecclesiam scio.
I follow no leader other than Christ, and I communicate with none but … with the chair of Peter. This I know to be the Rock on which the Church is built.
 
Hello all,

I am looking for some help for ways that I can be very traditional in my Catholicism while not being able to make it to an Extraordinary Form Mass. I want to know some prayers, spiritual exercises, books, &c., that can increase my devotion to God while increasing my traditionalism.

Blessings!

Landon
A book that I am really appreciating and which I highly recommend is:
The Latin Mass Explained by Msgr. George J. Moorman
I was initially published in 1920 and was republished in 2007.
The first portion focuses on the Sacrifice of the Mass, the second on the names, language and things necessary fo the Mass and the third discusses in extraordinary detail the prayers and ceremonies of the Mass. The discussion of a single prayer or gesture may include historical details, significance, traditional practices and why they have been handed down over the centuries.
As Sirach noted the Mass is the source and summit of our faith and this is the best book (short of the Bible, our Holiest Book, of course) that I have encountered in its ability to help me enter more fully into the Mass.
My 1962 missal has a huge collection of prayers that I really appreciate as well. Meditating on the words of a long treasured prayer might be another way for you to develop your faith life. And finally, have you run into Laudemus te? It’s a magazine for the Roman Liturgy of the Latin Rite.
Happy searching and 1,000 welcomes as you enter into His Church.
 
Whoops!!
I blew the spelling of the magazine title.
It is Laudamus te.
Mea culpa.:o
jeannetherese
 
I know it would start with like pray the rosary only 15 decades not 20.
What exactly is wrong with praying the Luminous mysteries?

The rosary is merely a private devotion, and omitting OR including any of the mysteries is technically OK. So, if I don’t ‘like’ the sorrowful mysteries, and I omit them in my praying of the rosary, it is OK. If I want to make up my own prayers to pray on the rosary beads, that is OK, too.
🙂
 
What exactly is wrong with praying the Luminous mysteries?

The rosary is merely a private devotion, and omitting OR including any of the mysteries is technically OK. So, if I don’t ‘like’ the sorrowful mysteries, and I omit them in my praying of the rosary, it is OK. If I want to make up my own prayers to pray on the rosary beads, that is OK, too.
🙂
Well because traditionally the Rosary was a “poor man’s” psalter, being that, there are 150 Psalms, the 15 mysteries, with their 10 Hail Mary’s each, maintains that relationshp, hence why the Rosary is also known as Mary’s Psalter. So for someoen trying to get into more traditional spirituality, and maintin that connection it would make sense not to disrupt that.
 
As an aid, I would also add that the website located in my signature has a TLM calendar with linked readings, and the Douay Rheims with full cross refs, artwork, maps, commentary, concordance etc
 
Ave Maria! :highprayer:

Holy pictures and candles, scapulars, holy water and sacred salt etc. might help you in your devotions. Adoration has grown in popularity again, also in parishes that only offers the new Mass.

Fast regularly/make little sacrifices and abstain from meat on Fridays. Give alms and take care of the poor, the sick and the people in grief. Keep the commandments.

Also remember that God is a person and that He thirst for you. What He wants to transform is your heart, everything “traditional” is just a help to get the real thing. There are no saints out there who did not love…
 
First of all, welcome home! Secondly, there have been a number of great suggestions on the thread so far, which is nice to see.

If I could add anything to what has already been recommended, it would be to start reading, read some more, and then do some more reading. 😉 Seriously though, there is a great treasure of books on the Faith that are available, and many of the traditional ones have been brought back into print, or are even available in e-book, mobi, or pdf format. In my signature block, there are some links you might consider to books that are excellent and traditional.

I wish you God’s grace and blessing in your journey.
 
First of all, welcome home! Secondly, there have been a number of great suggestions on the thread so far, which is nice to see.

If I could add anything to what has already been recommended, it would be to start reading, read some more, and then do some more reading. 😉 Seriously though, there is a great treasure of books on the Faith that are available, and many of the traditional ones have been brought back into print, or are even available in e-book, mobi, or pdf format. In my signature block, there are some links you might consider to books that are excellent and traditional.

I wish you God’s grace and blessing in your journey.
I thought of something else. Read the Papal Encyclicals and the Sacred Councils prior to and including Vatican II. One of the things which I notice again and again is the tendency to just plain ignore everything that happened between the time of the Church Fathers and Vatican II. Someone on another thread reminded me of that earlier today, so it is fresh in my mind.

The Sacred Councils can be found here: papalencyclicals.net/Councils/index.htm
Papal Encyclicals and other Papal writings can be found here: papalencyclicals.net/all.htm

+Pax
 
I thought of something else. Read the Papal Encyclicals and the Sacred Councils prior to and including Vatican II. One of the things which I notice again and again is the tendency to just plain ignore everything that happened between the time of the Church Fathers and Vatican II. Someone on another thread reminded me of that earlier today, so it is fresh in my mind.

The Sacred Councils can be found here: papalencyclicals.net/Councils/index.htm
Papal Encyclicals and other Papal writings can be found here: papalencyclicals.net/all.htm

+Pax
Any specific Popes or Councils that are more beneficial to read? I would assume like Pope St. Pius X.

Blessings!
 
Any specific Popes or Councils that are more beneficial to read? I would assume like Pope St. Pius X.

Blessings!
Pope Pius X is indeed excellent to read, but honestly, I would go back and read all of the councils. It is amazing to see how the doctrine of the Church developed and was clarified throughout Sacred Tradition. Regarding encyclicals, there are many, too many to list here. Perhaps others will have some insight there.
 
Hello all,

I am looking for some help for ways that I can be very traditional in my Catholicism while not being able to make it to an Extraordinary Form Mass. I want to know some prayers, spiritual exercises, books, &c., that can increase my devotion to God while increasing my traditionalism.

I know it would start with like pray the rosary only 15 decades not 20. Or, pray it in Latin. I love the Latin language and I am pretty good with it so that would be no real problem.

Any suggestions or ways that I can be more traditional would be appreciated.

How about are there any EF Parishes that do video broadcasts of the mass online?

Blessings!

Landon
Love other people. Pray for the dead. Give up a meal and give the money to the poor. Call up someone you hurt and ask for forgiveness. Maybe wash the car for the old lady down the street.

Prayers and devotions and books are good but an increase in virtue is what pleases God and gets us to heaven. Prayers and books and devotions, whatever label you want to put on them, are only a means to that end. If “Increasing traditionalism” doesn’t increase virtue and decrease sin then it is nothing more than chasing after the wind.

-Tim-
 
Love other people. Pray for the dead. Give up a meal and give the money to the poor. Call up someone you hurt and ask for forgiveness. Maybe wash the car for the old lady down the street.

Prayers and devotions and books are good but an increase in virtue is what pleases God and gets us to heaven. Prayers and books and devotions, whatever label you want to put on them, are only a means to that end. If “Increasing traditionalism” doesn’t increase virtue and decrease sin then it is nothing more than chasing after the wind.

-Tim-
Exactly! Love is what differs true Faith from an hobby/intellectual project. The Bible and the Saints are very clear on this one…

Reading is good though. I would highly recommend Francis de Sales “Introduction to the Devout life”. Encyclicals are here for the benefit of our souls of course, but I think it is better to start by learning how to grow in virtue first…

It is also important to know that this is not the first crisis in the Church. It is not like everything was good up until the 60s and that everything after is ****. I personally love the luminous mysteries and I sometimes pray to JPII for example…
 
Exactly! Love is what differs true Faith from an hobby/intellectual project. The Bible and the Saints are very clear on this one…

Reading is good though. I would highly recommend Francis de Sales “Introduction to the Devout life”. Encyclicals are here for the benefit of our souls of course, but I think it is better to start by learning how to grow in virtue first…

It is also important to know that this is not the first crisis in the Church. It is not like everything was good up until the 60s and that everything after is ****. I personally love the luminous mysteries and I sometimes pray to JPII for example…
Right. I’ve seen some proudly proclaim that they never read anything published after 1963. I have also seen some proudly proclaim that they never read anything published before 1963.

Such litmus tests are unnecessary. Read it all. 🙂
 
Hello all,

I am looking for some help for ways that I can be very traditional in my Catholicism while not being able to make it to an Extraordinary Form Mass. I want to know some prayers, spiritual exercises, books, &c., that can increase my devotion to God while increasing my traditionalism.
There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

except there are trads. trads are encouraged.
 
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