Beheadings are nothing new

[Tomdstone]

This is a woman who thinks Obama’s plan is to take out Assad…

I think she is right when she says that Obama has stated his support for “moderate” rebels who are intent on overthrowing Assad and installing a new regime. The problem is that some of the formerly “moderate” rebels have joined the non-moderate ISIS.

 

[Path_Finder]

I am familiar with the issue; the point I am trying to make is that Assad, like Saddam, and Mubarak and Kaddafi were all dictators, keeping a lid on dissent, and in particular, dissent from the minority whether it be Sunni of Shia.

Not that they limited their “discipline” to those groups only; they are/were outright dictators.

There are symptoms, and then there are diseases, as the doctors would say; causation seems to run to the centuries old split.

But in Assad’s case, he doesn’t even allow minimal protest.

So you consider Saddam in invading Kuwait, estimated at killing from 30,000-100,000 Kurds, having a war with Iran where 1,000,000 persons (check figures, I think that is right) and not allowing inspectors into nuclear plants as “keeping a lid on things”?

I certainly don’t and the Syrian regime also has sponsored terrorism against Lebanon and Israel besides brutalizing their own people.

Iran and Syria as state sponsors of terrorism in the annual report on terrorism issued by the US Department of State
Overview

1. Iran and Syria, two countries designated as state sponsors of terrorism by the US Department of State, have consistently pursued a long-term strategy of encouraging and inciting violence and terrorism against Israel (“resistance”) by relying on Palestinian terrorist organizations.

terrorism-info.org.il/data/pdf/PDF_09_139_2.pdf

Catholic writer Rick Salbato:

I lived in Syria for over a year and have many very close friends there. Officially there are very few Christians there but actually Christians might be as high as 35%. When in Syria I saw that the people were forcibly keep under control by the army. On every corner of the city of Damascus, where I lived, was at least one army guard watching the people. Thirty years ago the then dictator, Hafez al-Assad, tried to kill all the Christians and Jews, but realized that they were the economic foundation of Syria and it was not in his best interest.

However even when I was there, the Christians were a second class race of people. I had a full time driver who taught me a great deal. They have a jail that is at least 15 floors deep in the ground with a bear at the bottom. Any people causing disruption in the prison are fed to the bear. That prison and the Palestinian camps cannot be photographed or even looked at.

unitypublishing.com/godskingdom/GoodSamaritanSyria.htm

 

[Path_Finder]

This is a woman who thinks Obama’s plan is to take out Assad and nation-build/split up Syria. That is such ridiculous nonsense that basically anything else she says is automatically suspect.

Looks like Syria girl is in Australia and had some article on her being one of the “hottest” bloggers around.

 

[mikekle]

Did not hitler lose the war? Wasn’t communism miraculously overthrown in a short space of time? God intervenes! Just not in the way you expect. Have faith

It wasnt God, it was the allied forces that made WW2 a success, as well as some bad mistakes/ lack of communication by Hitler at the end.

Still though, those people in concentration camps suffered for a long time when God could have come down, appeared in full glory and just decimate the nazis right there on the spot.

The way it actually happened though, one could argue God had nothing to do with it, or he had everything to do with it, as it could be interpreted a number of ways…this doesnt sound like God to me, when he decided to punish Sodom and Gomorrah, it was a full on supernatural ‘attack’, God did not make it seem to be something else.,

 

[Darryl1958]

I would say that’s a matter of the pot calling the kettle black. North Americans and Europeans are pretty overt about whatever sexual immorality they engage in, just as Europeans in times past nearly always were. And western women, even chaste women, tend to flaunt their sexuality with clothing and makeup, just as they always have. But how does one, say, compare the immorality of intentionally alluring clothing on an occidental woman to the beatings, rapes, pedophilia, genital mutiliations, temporary marriages, polygamy, and, yes, homosexuality (remember the “Afghan dancing boys”?) so common in the Islamic world that it makes one wonder whether the Marquis de Sade learned his predilections in the Middle East.

And, of course, when it comes to morals of other sorts, well, to my knowledge there have been no public beheadings or beheading/burnings in the west of late, and nobody in the West (other than the occasional hard leftist) chants “death to (fill in the blank)” at the slightest provocation…and means it.

In comparing the morals of the west and those in the Islamic world, I would say there’s little to be favored in the latter.

There are many chaste and sexually responsible men and women among both Christians, and Muslims, and everybody else too. The difference is that western society, based in a constant self-criticism, exposes its own bad behaviors and hypocrisies, and aims at full disclosure and full discussion of the merits of its moral choices.

Rene Girard notes that this kind of self criticism becomes inevitable among a people who have committed dei-cide in the past. If people can kill God, and not distinguish Jesus the Son of Man, from Barabbas, ‘the son of God’, then self criticism becomes a psychological necessity of a people who need to know the nature of their sins, lest they kill God again.

Most people get along with their lives without sexually abusing altar boys or dancing boys. Others do not. The difference is that in the West, we have become scandalized by our sins, and need to deal with them, because they have been exposed for all to see. In the East, sins carry on, hidden from view. Any attempts to expose them are dismissed as an attack on Islam itself.

 

[Darryl1958]

Lol… you’ve got to be kidding me. Some Youtuber who thinks Obama is a warmonger and that he’s attacking ISIS only as a pretext for “destroying the Syrian state”.

youtube.com/watch?v=8nyUnWW5Hh0#t=472

Sounds totally legit and in no way pro-Assad propaganda.

The better explanation is that Turkey is unwilling to support American war efforts against ISIS because America is unwilling to take out Assad, and thereby alienate Iran. Meanwhile America is unwilling to properly arm Kurds, in an effort to appease Turkey, and bring them on board in the war efforts against ISIS.