Being gay is in your genes

[SMGS127]

I base my posts only on what has been posted. Also, as is clearly evidenced there have been some posters that have contributed that were confused about the topic and have been confused even more by all of the postulating and loophole interpretations.

In summary, what has been propagated on threads like this is that homosexual temptations are nothing to worry about. The irony is is if a person had constant sexual desires for prepubescent children or animals they would know they have a problem and as such would turn to Christ. As it is it is apparent that many of those that suffer from SSA minimize their condition instead of addressing it. This shows either a poor understanding of what Christ has done for us as or a proud heart that refuses to repent of their sins(not of SSA attractions) and submit. Interestingly enough, in my many years of discussing topic like this persons that suffer from SSA they are consistently resistant to submitting to Christ and His Word completely, which reflect a proud heart. This arrogance interestingly enough according to the Bible could be the cause of their condition yet they don’t feel it necessary to submit and be healed, thus they are stuck in their own condition. I myself on the other hand reject my personal pride and will not oppose doctrine or the Word of God as far as I can understand it, ie I recognize my sins no matter how difficult it may be. Maybe that’s why the devil can no longer convince me I am something I am not. Paz.

So we’re arrogant now?

Come on, Catolico, just because there are gay people who believe that God gives them struggles for a reason and who choose to acknowledge that and ignore those temptations in loyalty to God doesn’t mean that those gay people are “arrogant.”

There were Saints who delighted in pleasing God through their Earthly suffering caused by self-denial. These Saints also did not wish to lose these temptations but to always choose God over them. There were also Saints that prayed endlessly to have their temptations removed (Paul was one). Neither attitude should be cast aside as somehow un-Catholic, as both are prevalent among the Saints.

Yes, it is a sin to act on temptations or encourage them. But no, it is not sinful to ignore these temptations as irrelevant to one’s life and to choose God over them. One does not have to actively pray to lose their suffering to be a good Catholic.

 

[Ridgerunner]

This thread is a good example of what is wrong in the scientific community and the MSM. The article clearly states that “Being gay could be in the DNA” yet this thread is titled “Being gay is in your genes”

Furthermore, the objectivity of the lead researcher should be questioned given that he states:

‘Sexual orientation has nothing to do with choice."

quickly followed by this statement:

"Our findings suggest there may be genes at play – we found evidence for two sets that affect whether a man is gay or straight.

Furthermore, this study is only preliminary like so many that have purported “suggested genetic” origins of homosexuality yet sold as something more definitive and as such cannot be considered scholarly work.

It’s difficult to credit the existence of a “gay gene” because it’s a dead end from the standpoint of species survival. Granted, there are snippets of DNA that “go wrong” and do something harmful that’s analogous to something useful from a survival standpoint. An example would be the genetic factor that causes sickle cell anemia. It’s actually a trait useful in combatting malaria that has “gone astray”. One could imagine that with homosexuality.

But I, at least, am much more inclined to suspect social or environmental influences. After all, there are fetishists of all kinds, for example, whose proclivities arose from some kind of identification of an object with sexual pleasure; an identification that is then massively reennforced by repetition of the act. As with drugs or running, the brain develops and replicates specialized receptors for things that impart pleasure. If foot fetishists, for example, have an early identification of feet or shoes with sexual pleasure, then greatly repeat the act that causes the “endorphin surge” and multiplication of specialized receptors or whatever, then can it really be greatly different with homosexuality? Both, it seems to me, are not “intrinsic”, but are analogues to something that really is beneficial and a survival strategy, but which have gone askew.

So, far from encouraging the “normalization” of something that is manifestly a departure from a beneficial use of a human facility, we should not encourage that any more than we should, by endlessly presenting it as “normal”, encourage men to break into homes to steal womens’ underwear or encourage over-replication of receptors for opiates.

 

[Catolico65]

So we’re arrogant now?

Come on, Catolico, just because there are gay people who believe that God gives them struggles for a reason and who choose to acknowledge that and ignore those temptations in loyalty to God doesn’t mean that those gay people are “arrogant.”

There were Saints who delighted in pleasing God through their Earthly suffering caused by self-denial. These Saints also did not wish to lose these temptations but to always choose God over them. There were also Saints that prayed endlessly to have their temptations removed (Paul was one). Neither attitude should be cast aside as somehow un-Catholic, as both are prevalent among the Saints.

Yes, it is a sin to act on temptations or encourage them. But no, it is not sinful to ignore these temptations as irrelevant to one’s life and to choose God over them. One does not have to actively pray to lose their suffering to be a good Catholic.

If you had constant sexual desires for prepubescent children or animals, etc would you still have the same attitude that all is normal?

You wouldn’t of course, because these are very defiling thoughts that wage psychological war on our minds and our mental well being. The Bible says we should do our best to ensure our fellow brothers do not have their minds defiled. Unfortunately, some persons embrace their defiling thoughts and worse stand in the way of others from being healed. The Bible speaks of this too.