Being homosexual, celibate, but still having a partner

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Interesting how little faith you have in people and assumes that a person with same-sex attractions
Quite the contrary, this is precisely the advice I would give to anyone, with SSA or not. This is precisely the advice moral theologians and saints gave to their directees and to the Catholic faithful at large. I’m not making it up; that is the source of the information. I wouldn’t tell two people of the opposite sex that it’s okay for them to spend time alone in private and certainly not that they could live together. It is no different for those of the same sex with SSA.
 
Even if he were to absolve the person, God would not forgive him because he continues to live in a near and voluntary occasion for sin.
Matthew 16:19 “I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

This makes it hard to take the rest of your post seriously.
 
She is correct partially. She is correct that your living together constitutes a near and voluntary occasion of sin. She is incorrect in saying that by putting yourselves into that situation you do not commit a mortal sin. If someone puts himself into a near and voluntary occasion of sin, he commits a mortal sin because he is willing to fall into mortal sin.
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Living together with someone to whom a person is attracted (generally, with the opposite sex at all, in your case, with your former partner) is always a near occasion of sin generally. That is, it applies to everyone.
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You should not spend time in private alone together or eventually you will fall back into sin. I am not saying that as a judgment against you or your personal sanctity. It just is a fact…
Quite the contrary, this is precisely the advice I would give to anyone, with SSA or not. This is precisely the advice moral theologians and saints gave to their directees and to the Catholic faithful at large. I’m not making it up; that is the source of the information. I wouldn’t tell two people of the opposite sex that it’s okay for them to spend time alone in private and certainly not that they could live together. It is no different for those of the same sex with SSA.
It may be different for those for those of the same sex with SSA because it is often a very different phenomina.

Your underlying presupposition, that an attempted chaste homosexual relationship is more likely to lead to sin just as an attempted chaste relationship between an unwed man and woman, is often false (although not necessarily). Same-sex attraction is often a very different phenomena than opposite sex attraction.

I’ve done a considerable about of research on the subject of homosexuality (mostly male homosexuality). I’ve found that for many men with SSA, being in a close, healthy, and chaste relationship relationship with someone of the same sex can help them avoid sin immensely more than it might lead them to sin. I’m not 100% sure what the effects may be…

For the OP’s relationship, I can only speculate. It’s something that the OP will have to think hard and dispassionately about (regarding if it’s a healthy sisterly relationship that leads away from sin or an unhealthy relationship that is more likely to cause sin). If there’s emotional dependency, than it’s almost certainly an unhealthy relationship. Having a limited knowledge about the OP and her relationship, it’s only appropriate for her to decide.

If something is more likely to keep you from sinning than it is to influence you to sin, than it isn’t a near occasion of sin.
 
I’ve done a considerable about of research on the subject of homosexuality (mostly male homosexuality). I’ve found that for many men with SSA, being in a close, healthy, and chaste relationship relationship with someone of the same sex can help them avoid sin immensely more than it might lead them to sin. I’m not 100% sure what the effects may be…
That may be so, but there is a significant difference between a person with SSA living with a person of the same sex who does NOT have SSA, compared to a person with SSA living with their “ex”-lover.
 
Thank you for your responses. I am glad to receive such supportive comments rather than hateful ones. There are some people who automatically assume that all homosexuals are destined for hell regardless of what their actual actions are.
This companion of mine is definitely the stronger of the two of us. She was born and raised Catholic and while she did go through a period of time when she strayed from her commitment due to the confusion caused by her sexuality, she now has a very strong resolve. I think that it is possible there could come a time when we both are weak but I really do think that we would be weak much more if we didn’t have each other. I know that if I didn’t have her, I would fall into impurity with myself or seek out someone at a bar or something. I am a very affectionate person and need to feel that closeness. But with her, we keep it pure and it is more based on spiritual and emotional support. Likewise she says that she also needs that, and her loneliness without me would drive her to impure actions as well. The real problem I think we face is the scandal it could cause. I think a lot of people can tell I’m homosexual by the way I dress in “tomboyish” clothing and when other Catholics see that we live together and spend so much time together, they probably assume we are sexually active. I don’t want to cause scandal. I want to do what’s right. I hope that more Catholics can be supportive, as many of you seem to be, and I wonder if there is a way to reassure people that we are not living in sin. But its not like you can just go around wearing a sign that says, “don’t worry, I’m celibate” or that one would ever want to. It helps to remember that God’s judgment is the one that matters. Again thank you for your comments.
Peace!
As long as you remain faithful to Church teaching, we will always support you. If you do sin again, know that the Sacrament of Reconciliation will help you reconcile yourself to God.
 
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I’ve done a considerable about of research on the subject of homosexuality (mostly male homosexuality). I’ve found that for many men with SSA, being in a close, healthy, and chaste relationship relationship with someone of the same sex can help them avoid sin immensely more than it might lead them to sin. I’m not 100% sure what the effects may be…
That may be so, but there is a significant difference between a person with SSA living with a person of the same sex who does NOT have SSA, compared to a person with SSA living with their “ex”-lover.
It still may be the case between two persons with SSA. I’m not saying it is necessarily the case, but that it may be so.

I’ve known two two chaste men with SSA who were housemates. They said that they think they’ve really been able to help each other do good and avoid sin. Although in this situation, they were college housemates before they know that the other had SSA.
 
This companion of mine is definitely the stronger of the two of us. … I am a very affectionate person and need to feel that closeness. … Likewise she says that she also needs that, and her loneliness without me would drive her to impure actions as well.
First off turtlehawk, I’d really like to thank you for all you’ve shared with us. One of my closest friends is gay and I desperately want her to come home to the Catholic Church, something I pray for every day, and your post fills me with hope that this is possible.

The one thing that concerns me about what you said is about how dependent you two are on each other. I think it’s wonderful how far you’ve both come and how much you help each other, but considering your attraction to one another, your dependence on each other for not slipping is quite worrying in that if one of you slips, you may well both slip. And also, what happens if for whatever reason that person isn’t there to help you when you’re tempted? What then?

It’s definitely a really difficult situation so I’d just advise you to pray about it really hard. Ask God to give you strength, and also to help you decide what to do about your living situation. The trouble is, it’s really not generally a good idea to live with someone you’re attracted to because you’re constantly putting yourself in the way of temptation and you have to be realistic about the consequences of this.

You may also want to ask yourselves: can you genuinely only do this by living together or is it just because part of you doesn’t want to let go of that last little bit of the relationship that you can cling to (if that makes sense)? I mean you don’t necessarily need to live together to help one another. If my friend decided to live a chaste life, I’d be there for her every step of the way, supporting her at all times, but I don’t need to live with her to help her. Especially with modern technology, you don’t need to live with someone to support them like that. Perhaps you could compare your situation to two recovering alcholics living together - if they’re both still recovering and if they used to drink together in the past, it would be just as easy to slip into old habits as to encourage each other.

But whatever you decide, I admire your strength and I hope it all works out!
 
I believe you are living the life God wants for all of us. Loving very initimate friendship with physical sex being put to the side. I have often wanted that for my husband and myself but actually fear we’d loose our closeness.

I think our whole society needs to work on the intimacy of love with sex not being the solution but the idea of being kind, thoughtful, loving…it’s a shame that our language doesn’t have the singular word(s) to say sisterly love, neighborly love etc. We leave love for only physical sex and here you have the heavenly opportunity to live all kinds of love without the advertised, made jokes of, movie sex love in the way.

The key to this thinking and reality is to not create scandal for those that only know the idea of love meaning physical love. I’ve told people I loved them and they’ve raised there eyebrows until I say ‘brotherly kind.’ Then they shake there head as if it’s an unreal idea!

It makes me sad…so please spread the word where you can there is other deeply felt kinds of love including two women (or men) being very committed and living for God and what He has set for us all. Very Good! 👍
 
It may be different for those for those of the same sex with SSA because it is often a very different phenomina.

Your underlying presupposition, that an attempted chaste homosexual relationship is more likely to lead to sin just as an attempted chaste relationship between an unwed man and woman, is often false (although not necessarily). Same-sex attraction is often a very different phenomena than opposite sex attraction.

I’ve done a considerable about of research on the subject of homosexuality (mostly male homosexuality). I’ve found that for many men with SSA, being in a close, healthy, and chaste relationship relationship with someone of the same sex can help them avoid sin immensely more than it might lead them to sin. I’m not 100% sure what the effects may be…
Particularly for the demographic you’ve described, if there is any evidence for their occasion of sin being more or less grave than those who are not SSA, it is clearly that it is more an occasion of sin insofar as the number of sins committed by such persons is clearly higher on average than those who are not SSA. Even supposing you’d like to debate that (I’d be happy to see any figures you’ve compiled), the principle still stands, and there isn’t a theological rationale for defending this opinion; I highly doubt there is even a modern-day moral theologian who would support it. The principle–especially with a former partner in sin–that one cannot live with in such circumstances is an absolute principle. Consider the moral theologians on the topic. No priest can validly administer the sacrament to such persons.

Paulin,

You misunderstand that passage of Scripture. That doesn’t mean that whatever an individual priest says in confession is necessarily true or that he can validly administer the Sacrament to someone who is not disposed to receive it, anymore than he can validly confect the Blessed Sacrament with orange juice or potato chips. The penitent has duties he must fulfill to be worthy to receive the Sacrament, and the priest, even if he pronounces the proper form of the Sacrament, cannot supply for a wanting matter.
 
Wow - was I surprised to see your post! I am in a similar situation - I have been living with a woman (I am a woman) for 12 years - we are celibate - we have been since 2001 - I fell away from the church for a while - and found my way home - and realized I had to make a decision and discussed it with my partner (who is not Catholic) and came to the fact that there were no other options but to follow church law - I call her my partner because I am not sure what else to call her (and I knew you would know what I meant) - it has not always been easy - but it does get easier with time - as long as you are both committed to remaining celibate - One thing that has helped me over these past years was to go to confession once a week - even if I don’t seem to have done anything very wrong - it helps to know that I will see my priest on Friday and that even in temptation it wont be long before I can “check in with him” so to speak - its kind of like AA - it is easier to hold yourself accountable when you have a friend that you talk to face to face (I know that having a relationship with God should be enough to keep me celibate - but being human I sometimes need reminders - like having a picture of Christ in our living room - or a crucifix in the bedroom - there are reminders all over our house to help us remember we are following the Laws of the Church - don’t know if that made sense - but anyway - just wanted to say hi! Know that you can be successful if you choose to - and God is great at helping! All you have to do is ask (and depend on him) - I’ll keep you guys in my prayers! 👍
 
I am so thankful to God for you both, and for all who have not forsaken God within the Catholic Church. I want you both to know that you are on the right track.

I would have to agree with the sister on your question. It would not matter homosexual, heterosexual, it is not advised to live with the other person. It would truly be a cross. I understand the need for companionship, support, and finances. It really is encouraging the near occasion of sin, perhaps scandal. If a friend asked me if they should live together with their partner, I would never say it was ok.

Chastity is a virtue. A virtue is something that MUST be worked at. An example, patience is a virtue. It is not something you are automatically good at, not hardly, and especially not in today’s culture. Every time that we overcome temptation, our souls are strengthened against it next time. With frequent use of the Sacraments, especially confession and the Eucharist, we are also able to obtain the graces necessary to fight the good fight. It is a fight that we are in, a race, as Paul says. Run as If to win, Train that we might not be disqualified 1 Cor 9:24-27. It is through overcoming temptation that we are purified. Everything is a test, but the choices are the virtue or the vice. It’s not something that is discussed much anymore, but I wish would be.

On a side note, I do think it is very insightful, and something that people need to know, that we can have relationships with people and still follow the guidelines that Christ through the Church have laid out and still remain in a state of Grace, which is the most important thing. Married persons are still called to chastity, and everyone to their own state in life. I truly hope this helps. I will pray for you both in discerning what to do.

If you would like to ask a really good priest, our catholic radio station WLOF in Buffalo, NY has a call in radio show from 4-5pm EST on Tuesday and Thursday with Father Rick Poblocki. He is the best priest I’ve ever heard give explanations and advice. You can always call in and ask and see what he says. The website is www.wlof.net
 
Particularly for the demographic you’ve described, if there is any evidence for their occasion of sin being more or less grave than those who are not SSA, it is clearly that it is more an occasion of sin insofar as the number of sins committed by such persons is clearly higher on average than those who are not SSA.
Don’t oversimplify the phenomina of same-sex attraction (SSA). A greater number of sins being committed by people who experience SSA doesn’t necessarily mean that living together would be a greater occasion of sin.

Many NARTH psychologists hold that many times SSA is a symptom of a need for bonding with others of the same sex. Dr. Joseph Nicolosi writes:

“[Male] homosexual clients report that when they begin to know another man intimately, their sexual interest in him diminishes. It is always, they report, the distant person who is sexually attractive.”

-Joseph Nicolosi, Reparatve Therapy of Male Homosexuality, page 120

This is important regarding this discussion for obvious reasons. What he says immediately afterwords reveals, in part, why many homosexual persons have short, promiscuous sexual relations:

“We see here the frustrating cycle of distant attraction and then close disinterest, a cycle of continual, and for so many, lifelong, frustrated desire for intimacy.”

This same psychologists and many other psychologists hold that individuals who experience SSA often tend to sin more often than others due to emotional problems that often drive their SSA.
Even supposing you’d like to debate that (I’d be happy to see any figures you’ve compiled), the principle still stands, and there isn’t a theological rationale for defending this opinion; I highly doubt there is even a modern-day moral theologian who would support it. The principle–especially with a former partner in sin–that one cannot live with in such circumstances is an absolute principle. Consider the moral theologians on the topic. No priest can validly administer the sacrament to such persons.
I think you have your mind set on the wrong principle. Avoiding the near occasion of sin is the moral principle behind this thread. The principle is very easy theoretically, that is, the principle that one must avoid situations that would make one more likely to sin. The application of this principle isn’t always so easy. Living with a person who one used to commit sexual sins with would, in most but not all situations, more likely lead one to sin, but not necessarily. If that is the case, than to live together would be a near occasion of sin, but if not, than living together would not be a near occasion of sin (and perhaps even the opposite).

This thread actually falls outside the realm of moral theology into the realm of social science since the application of the principle of moral theology in question in this situation (the near occasion of sin) depends on the effect the situation is likely to have on one’s behavior.

There is no universal, absolute, moral principle that one cannot live with a former sexual partner. Doing so would almost always be a near occasion of sin, but not necessarily.

Regarding figures, it’s extremely difficult to come up with numbers like these because its rare nowadays for young people to choose celibacy and probably rarer for an individual with SSA to convert to Catholicism.

The question is simple. Am I more or less likely to sin in this situation? The answer isn’t as obvious.

I’m not necessarily saying that the OP should or shouldn’t live with her former sexual partner. I am saying that if doing so would more likely lead to sin than she shouldn’t. On the other hand, if she would be less likely to sin living with her, than it would actually be good for her to do so. She should think long and hard about it, and petition God’s help as well.
 
Don’t oversimplify the phenomina of same-sex attraction (SSA). A greater number of sins being committed by people who experience SSA doesn’t necessarily mean that living together would be a greater occasion of sin.
I’m not necessarily saying it is. I’m saying it’s at least equal.
Many NARTH psychologists hold that many times SSA is a symptom of a need for bonding with others of the same sex. Dr. Joseph Nicolosi writes:
“[Male] homosexual clients report that when they begin to know another man intimately, their sexual interest in him diminishes. It is always, they report, the distant person who is sexually attractive.”
-Joseph Nicolosi, Reparatve Therapy of Male Homosexuality, page 120
I don’t see how one author’s opinion can throw out a principle of moral theology that has never been doubted by anyone, ever.
I think you have your mind set on the wrong principle. Avoiding the near occasion of sin is the moral principle behind this thread. The principle is very easy theoretically, that is, the principle that one must avoid situations that would make one more likely to sin. The application of this principle isn’t always so easy. Living with a person who one used to commit sexual sins with would, in most but not all situations, more likely lead one to sin, but not necessarily.
It’s true that it won’t necessarily lead someone to sin. If you walk into a brothel, you won’t necessarily sin. All the is necessary for a near and voluntary occasion of sin is that the occasion is near (not absolute; there really isn’t such a thing as an absolute occasion because we can always avoid the sin if we pray). This is a case where it is always a near occasion of sin, whether or not the person has any emotional attachment to the person in a sexual way any longer. This is true in general with spending time with someone of the opposite sex. It is a grave occasion of sin to spend time along with the opposite sex (or same sex for SSA), much less live with that person. This is simply a matter of human psyche and biology. There is a natural urge for sexual pleasure, and we have to do everything reasonable to avoid that when it is possible.
If that is the case, than to live together would be a near occasion of sin, but if not, than living together would not be a near occasion of sin (and perhaps even the opposite).
There are two types of near occasions of sin: general and specific or peculiar. Certain circumstances will always be occasions of sin for anyone because man usually will fall in those circumstances. Then there are specific occasions. For someone who blasphemes when he plays cards, he is not permitted to play cards. That is a specific occasion for him individually, not everyone in general. The example you are proposing is a near occasion of sin in general for the reasons I noted above. It is never legitimate to put oneself in such an occasion voluntarily.
There is no universal, absolute, moral principle that one cannot live with a former sexual partner. Doing so would almost always be a near occasion of sin, but not necessarily.
For the reasons given above, yes it is an absolute principle. Everyone always has an obligation to avoid all near and voluntary occasions of sin, which necessarily includes all general near occasions of sin. This is what all moral theologians say about such a circumstance, as I mentioned in my first post. There isn’t a moral theologian [who is not an heretic] who would deny this.
 
Interesting how little faith you have in people and assumes that a person with same-sex attractions (hereafter, SSA) will be unable to control themselves. What is your solution for a person with SSA? Are you saying that people with SSA are supposed to live all by themselves and apart from any community in their own home?

IMHO, it is this kind of opinion that pushes me, a person suffering with SSA, further and further away from the Church instead of drawing near to God, Who, apparently being represented by people like this, I can’t see accepting and loving me in spite of my imperfections and regardless of any desire I have for healing from SSA. Instead, this demonstrates the idea that that God doesn’t trust people like me or want to heal people in my situation and that people like me have to be isolated and live a completely different and much more difficult and harsh life than the rest of the Catholic Church, pure and holy as they are.

Don’t let your mindset be polluted by simplistic, PROTESTANT either/or style thinking.

“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”
John Kenneth Galbraith
So I assume it is your belief that it is good to stereotype protestants as wishy-washy and conservatives as greedy, but bad to stereotype homosexuals as unable to control their desires?

Also, I don’t understand why you want to force God to have the same views as IntegraCatholic, whose opinion was generally not shared by most of the other posters.
 
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Lets first understand what a near occasion of sin is and why it is to be avoided. A near occasion of sin is something (person, place, thing, or overall situation) in which one is more likely to sin than if one was not in that situation (in another situation). Near occasions of sin should be avoided so that we are less likely to sin.
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Don’t oversimplify the phenomena of same-sex attraction (SSA). A greater number of sins being committed by people who experience SSA doesn’t necessarily mean that living together would be a greater occasion of sin.
I’m not necessarily saying it is. I’m saying it’s at least equal.
But deducing that two persons who experience SSA living together is at least an equal near occasion to sin to that of a man and woman living together from various things you mentioned earlier IS oversimplifying the phenomena of same-sex attraction.
BobObob;6765898:
I think you have your mind set on the wrong principle. Avoiding the near occasion of sin is the moral principle behind this thread. The principle is very easy theoretically, that is, the principle that one must avoid situations that would make one more likely to sin. The application of this principle isn’t always so easy. Living with a person who one used to commit sexual sins with would, in most but not all situations, more likely lead one to sin, but not necessarily. If that is the case, than to live together would be a near occasion of sin, but if not, than living together would not be a near occasion of sin (and perhaps even the opposite).
It’s true that it won’t necessarily lead someone to sin. If you walk into a brothel, you won’t necessarily sin. All the is necessary for a near and voluntary occasion of sin is that the occasion is near (not absolute; there really isn’t such a thing as an absolute occasion because we can always avoid the sin if we pray).
A near occasion of sin is one which is more likely to lead to sin (than not being in that situation). Obviously, since being in a brothel is a situation in which virtually everyone is more likely to sin than in other situations, it’s a near occasion of sin.
There are two types of near occasions of sin: general and specific or peculiar. Certain circumstances will always be occasions of sin for anyone because man usually will fall in those circumstances. Then there are specific occasions. For someone who blasphemes when he plays cards, he is not permitted to play cards. That is a specific occasion for him individually, not everyone in general. The example you are proposing is a near occasion of sin in general for the reasons I noted above. It is never legitimate to put oneself in such an occasion voluntarily.
Whether or not “certain circumstances will always be occasions of sin for” everyone is something that’s up to social scientists, not moral theologians, because it’s in the realm of social science to determine what factors or situations will likely lead to certain behaviors.

There are certain circumstances which are near occasions of sin for VIRTUALLY everyone (general near occasions of sin), and for these situations moral theologians divided near occasions of sin into general and specific. However, moral theologians have to appeal to the realm of social science for this. Moral theologians may categorize these situations that are near occasions of sin for VIRTUALLY everyone into the category of general near occasions of sin. You assert that living with a former sexual partner would always be a near occasion of sin, and that this is an absolute principle held by moral theologians. However, this is something to be studied by social scientists, and thus isn’t an absolute theological principle.
This is a case where it is always a near occasion of sin, whether or not the person has any emotional attachment to the person in a sexual way any longer. This is true in general with spending time with someone of the opposite sex. It is a grave occasion of sin to spend time along with the opposite sex (or same sex for SSA), much less live with that person. This is simply a matter of human psyche and biology. There is a natural urge for sexual pleasure, and we have to do everything reasonable to avoid that when it is possible.
It amazes me that you seem to think it’s a matter of dogma that there are certain situations which will always, and without any exception, be near occasions of sin for absolutely every person. Moral theologians may look at situations that social science has told them is a near occasion of sin for virtually everyone, but that’s a matter for social scientists.

The reality is is that even if there are situations which are near occasions of sin for virtually everyone, it’s neither theologically wrong nor theologically problematic to say that there may be an exception.
 
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BobObob;6765898:
Many NARTH psychologists hold that many times SSA is a symptom of a need for bonding with others of the same sex. Dr. Joseph Nicolosi writes:

“[Male] homosexual clients report that when they begin to know another man intimately, their sexual interest in him diminishes. It is always, they report, the distant person who is sexually attractive.”

-Joseph Nicolosi, Reparatve Therapy of Male Homosexuality
, page 120

I don’t see how one author’s opinion can throw out a principle of moral theology that has never been doubted by anyone, ever.
This isn’t throwing out any principle or moral theology at all, much less one that has never been doubted. Like I said, moral theologians tell us that we must avoid proximate near occasions of sin, but they must go out of the realm of theology and into the realm of social science to see what situations would qualify as a near occasion of sin. Moral theologians may often give advice (such as don’t live with a former sexual partner) based off of what they know of social science, but that’s in the realm of social science, not theology.

BTW, I’m a senior theology major at a Catholic college that prides itself in orthodoxy. I got an “A” in the class I took on Christian moral principles (although it was really Catholic moral principles) my freshman year. I have been conditionally accepted into the graduate theology program at my school (pending maintaining my current grade). I’m saying this to let you know that I have a good understanding of what the Catholic Church teaches and the scope of the magisterium.

Let me simplify it. If something is is more likely to cause you to sin, go for it. If something is more likely to lead you AWAY from sin, go for it. Whether or not something is more or less likely to cause someone to behave a certain way (including sinful behavior) is within the realm of social science, not theology.
 
What’s the difference?

My grandmother was married twice. Her first husband died. When she was to marry the second time, she found out that he was divorced, but back in the 1950s, annullments were unheard of. They did discuss the matter with a priest who told them that it would be difficult for them to live together, because the marriage could not be consummated. What grandma and grandpa #2 decided to do was to get married by the justice of the peace, but they lived together like brother and sister without anything going on. She went to Communion but he didn’t because of his divorce.

So, I don’t know what the answer is here. I don’t think they were living in sin and it is known that they were living in a partnership rather than a relationship. What does the Church have to say about this?
 
How much are you will to let go to travel deeper into the heart of Jesus? Can Jesus be your enough?
 
The principle still stands, and there isn’t a theological rationale for defending this opinion; I highly doubt there is even a modern-day moral theologian who would support it.
Can anyone provide even a single example of this? No one on this forum nor certainly does a secular doctor have the authority to pontificate about this issue, which necessarily has everything to do with moral theology.
 
IntegraCatholic;6764669:
the principle still stands, and there isn’t a theological rationale for defending this opinion; I highly doubt there is even a modern-day moral theologian who would support it.
Can anyone provide even a single example of this? No one on this forum nor certainly does a secular doctor have the authority to pontificate about this issue, which necessarily has everything to do with moral theology.
This issue isn’t only to do with moral theology. Like I’ve been saying, the application of the moral principle that one must avoid the near occasion of sin hinges on social science. This is because whether or not something is likely to make someone commit sinful behavior is within the realm of social science, not moral theology. Moral theology tells us that such situations need to be avoided though.

What is “this” that you are asking for an example of? Are you asking for an example of a moral theologian who would endorse celibate relationships between two people of the same sex who experience SSA?

This is one of those situations in which a moral theologian’s judgment is limited by his understanding in the area of social science. There are reasons why clergy in the Catholic Church, especially when being confessors or spiritual advisers, need a good understanding in the area of social science (mostly pastoral reasons, but not always). This is why many priests are given at least basic instruction in the area of social science in the seminary.
 
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