Belief in life on other planets?

[katholikos12]

Don’t hold your breath, we haven’t done too good a job with our own “race” yet.

And, theologically, we don’t know that a world of nonhumans would even need salvation.

ICXC NIKA

Word.

 

[GEddie]

Yes, the space trilogy perlandra, out of the silent planet, and the name of the third escapes me.

Happy new year and a merry Christmas
God bless

That Hideous Strength

Because it takes place entirely on Earth and is full of obscure British mythology, this one is less memorable than the first 2.

Happy New Year and ICXC NIKA

 

[Nimzovik]

**GEddie wrote:**Don’t hold your breath, we haven’t done too good a job with our own “race” yet.

And, theologically, we don’t know that a world of nonhumans would even need salvation.

Nimzovik Responds.

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh… That would be a ‘Management Decision.’

 

[Nimzovik]

Here are even more intersting peices of evidence from another lecture by Dr. Tom Van Flandern

youtube.com/watch?v=VkXsQbaDg5g

 

[aragonjohn1]

Don’t hold your breath, we haven’t done too good a job with our own “race” yet.

And, theologically, we don’t know that a world of nonhumans would even need salvation.

ICXC NIKA

Yes, quite

Merry Christmas

 

[aragonjohn1]

That Hideous Strength

Because it takes place entirely on Earth and is full of obscure British mythology, this one is less memorable than the first 2.

Happy New Year and ICXC NIKA

 

[centurionguard]

Is there life on other planets? Please explain. Personally I dont think there is, and I got into a discussion on it. Please tell me the Catholic teaching on this, thank you.

As intriguing I think about the plausibility of God creating sentient life with souls out n the mind-boggling vastness of space with many Billions/Trillions of Stars with planets revolving around them. I find it making a lot of idle thought. I have enough pressing duties in life to concern the smallness of myself, in serving God.

I like Ecclesiasticus Chapter 3: Verses 21-25 drbo.org/chapter/26003.htm

[21] For great is the power of God alone, and he is honoured by the humble. [22] Seek not the things that are too high for thee, and search not into things above thy ability: but the things that God hath commanded thee, think on them always, and in many of his works be not curious. [23] For it is not necessary for thee to see with thy eyes those things that are hid. [24] In unnecessary matters be not over curious, and in many of his works thou shalt not be inquisitive. [25] For many things are shewn to thee above the understanding of men.

 

[Nimzovik]

A wise approach… However, what to do when the" Seek not the things that are too high for thee, and search not into things above thy ability:’’ said ‘things’ seek you?

If there is any truth ( and I am coming to believe so …given the evidence) to the* countless* abduction stories and implants then perhaps we should indeed … be wise in another manner.

 

[brendenseth]

As intriguing I think about the plausibility of God creating sentient life with souls out n the mind-boggling vastness of space with many Billions/Trillions of Stars with planets revolving around them. I find it making a lot of idle thought. I have enough pressing duties in life to concern the smallness of myself, in serving God.

I like Ecclesiasticus Chapter 3: Verses 21-25 drbo.org/chapter/26003.htm

It wasn’t concerning to me, just a random thought. I remain focused on serving God, as everyone should be. I just wondered what everyone thought, so please don’t attack me over it.

 

[Nimzovik]

This subject is a difficult one for people. Often their comfort zone is violated. It does indeed carry with it a potential threat. When a technologically advanced species interacts with a species less so - it usually results in the less advanced species being wiped out or relegated to near non existence.

Then there is the matter that humans have been treated more or less like lab rats by certain aliens. How rude!

We humans also like to believe that we are the pinnacle of life. This is an interesting subject.

I have no real answers to any of the above. I just do not lock myself in a dark room in a fetalposition and suck my thumb by denying their existence. The evidence, for extra terrestrial life existence, IMHO, is overwhelming.

 

[GEddie]

This subject is a difficult one for people. Often their comfort zone is violated. It does indeed carry with it a potential threat. When a technologically advanced species interacts with a species less so - it usually results in the less advanced species being wiped out or relegated to near non existence.

Then there is the matter that humans have been treated more or less like lab rats by certain aliens. How rude!

We humans also like to believe that we are the pinnacle of life. This is an interesting subject.

I have no real answers to any of the above. I just do not lock myself in a dark room in a fetalposition and suck my thumb by denying their existence. The evidence, for extra terrestrial life existence, IMHO, is overwhelming.

I still could not care less. When I see them, I will believe.

ICXC NIKA

 

[RocketRM]

I still could not care less. When I see them, I will believe.

ICXC NIKA

Bingo! But I can assure you that if tomorrow aliens arrived it wouldn’t rock my faith - since my faith isn’t predicated on the existence or lack thereof of aliens.

 

[Nimzovik]

Welllllllll… I too certainly concur with this sentiment…
I do not think the OP’s original question was as to whether or not the existence of
ET.s would rock or refute the Faith… It should be no problem what so ever regarding the Faith…

It *was *what - if any- Catholic thinking was on this issue.

I re -present these links in pursuit of adressing this issue:

youtube.com/watch?v=FWt_JS-H3TY

ufoevidence.org/documents/doc814.htm

It is… interesting… -eh?

 

[Nimzovik]

I still could not care less. When I see them, I will believe.

ICXC NIKA

Bolding mine:

Er…yes?

In view of your statemnet… I guess you choose to …ignore(?) … the uh…evidence placed before you then, as put forth by the already once provided link that I represent here?

youtube.com/watch?v=EgQs8qDX2Ms

And all the other evidential links I posted as* well* -eh?

If so… What more can I say?

 

[GEddie]

Bolding mine:

Er…yes?

In view of your statemnet… I guess you choose to …ignore(?) … the uh…evidence placed before you then as put forth by the already once provided link that I represent here?

I said, “when I see them”. Not, “when somebody who believes in them throws a web page at me.”

If the sky is so caked with life as you believe, and we are being visited so often, it is a matter of time until my Mark I human eyes see evidence of it; till then it can wait.

ICXC NIKA

 

[Dolezal]

Is there life on other planets? Please explain. Personally I dont think there is, and I got into a discussion on it. Please tell me the Catholic teaching on this, thank you.

There is no Catholic teaching on this because it is irrelevant to our religion. Nonetheless, while extraterrestrial life (in the natural world) is compatible with our faith, I consider it implausible in the Catholic framework.

 

[Nimzovik]

I said, “when I see them”. Not, “when somebody who believes in them throws a web page at me.”

If the sky is so caked with life as you believe, and we are being visited so often, it is a matter of time until my Mark I human eyes see evidence of it; till then it can wait.

ICXC NIKA

Ok - so ‘when you see them’ is a valid point. However. the Web page was not just a web page ‘thrown at me (you’) - it was an objective, valid observation by credible scientists complete with Nasa (not nut cases) Images. It was evidence that should not be just ignored. To do so, en masse, is to invite *potential *peril methinks.

To ignore such evidence is also unscientific, as all evidence should be scrutinized, per the Scientific Methiod, as oppsed to rejection simply because we don’t wanna hear it…

 

[Nimzovik]

There is no Catholic teaching on this because it is irrelevant to our religion. Nonetheless, while extraterrestrial life (in the natural world) is compatible with our faith, I consider it implausible in the Catholic framework.

Quite correct. There is no Catholic** Dogma,** however there is indeed this Catholic perspective here:

youtube.com/watch?v=FWt_JS-H3TY

and a Catholic Priest, an exorcist as well, speaks here:

youtube.com/watch?v=L7RWsQ75RnA

IMHO, I truly** fail** to see how all this is …‘irrelevant to our Religion’ since to meditate on nature (in this case alien life) is to meditate on God… Should we ignore our fellow sentients created by God?

 

[catholiclee]

Quite correct. There is no Catholic** Dogma,** however there is indeed this Catholic perspective here:

youtube.com/watch?v=FWt_JS-H3TY

and a Catholic Priest, an exorcist as well, speaks here:

youtube.com/watch?v=L7RWsQ75RnA

IMHO, I truly** fail** to see how all this is …‘irrelevant to our Religion’ since to meditate on nature (in this case alien life) is to meditate on God… Should we ignore our fellow sentients created by God?

So your saying if I meditated on a monkey than I would be meditating on God? Why not just meditate directly on Lord Jesus Christ instead of your idea of nature? And since aliens are not proven to be real and since God never said anything about aliens than yes its okay to ignore aliens. How is it gonna help you get closer to God or Heaven by wasting your time with aliens? Are those aliens gonna teach you the beatitudes. Are those same aliens which supposedly abduct people by force gonna give you the eucharist. Are those aliens gonna teach how to better help others.

Aliens have never been proven to exist and once again what does it matter in the end? but since you keep trying to prove to people that aliens exist here we go.

How is it physically possible for aliens to travel the distance they would need to in order to reach us? And how would they survive such a mission. And if they did travel that far why are they not trying to make contact?

And the answer is because aliens are not visiting earth. Whether their is other creatures or humans out in the universe is unknown but on earth their are no aliens besides my Mexican friend Carlos but that is a different type of alien.

And as far as abductions go its never been proven and all of these people who say they were abducted are liars they are money/fame hungry and you can tell because they make a lot of money of their cases. These people who claim they were abducted write books, go on tv shows and go on interviews and some are even apart of movies and throughout all this time they are getting richer and more famous. And do these aliens know about the internet why not just learn about us through their instead of abducting us. If their smart enough to come to earth why cant they figure that out. I mean the internet has entire books and a ridiculous amount of photos and videos including medical videos.

And next is the aliens sightings and in my opinion those alien sightings are a mix of many things. First is government aircraft and remember governments around the world have aircraft that we dont even know about. The nazis back in their time even had aircraft that looked very similar to alien ufos and their are even photos of these objects online. And if they had that back then think about what governments have nowadays.

And a second explanation is people once again lying about sightings for money or fame.

And a third is the Devil creating illusions in order to get peoples focus away from God. And it truly works so many of these people who worry about aliens and waste all their time on aliens weaken their faith or even sometimes lose their faith. Its like they worship these aliens instead of God. The Devil is a deceiver and is very powerful and very intelligent so if creating a few illusions in the sky at night can hurt some peoples faith then he will do it. If he can possess people he can and does to create those alien lights.

Another explanation for a small amount of the sightings is consumer products that fly like small things such as strange balloons for example in mexico they have a strange shaped balloons which people mistake as alien ufos. And other things such as even floating lanterns and toy planes and so on.

My point is their are many explanations for those sightings that have nothing to do with aliens and when you focus so much time on something which is pointless and in my opinion a lie you are taking away time from God. Instead of researching and worrying about aliens how about you worry about how you can help poor people in the world. Or how you can help local people in your area out. Their is much to do in the world and so much time we can spend with God why waste it worrying about flying saucers.

 

[anjoh66]

There was a Vatican astronomer who did an interview entitled “The alien is my brother.”

Two years ago another priest said he would baptize an alien into the faith. Think of what such a powerful evangelism moment that would be if we converted a race of ET’s to Christ.

foxnews.com/story/0,2933,355400,00.html

guardian.co.uk/science/2010/sep/17/pope-astronomer-baptise-aliens

If they exists they might just as well be more pious than we are and as such might very well already belong to Christ.

Another perspective is that if God created life on other planets, it doesnt mean that they also sinned as we did, perhaps they stayed obedient and therefore they are in no need of the salvation of Christ.

It might be a parabole of the story of the prodigal son