Servant19;12327176]The analogy is not intended to prove the existence of anything or something. The purpose is to demonstrate the “co-eternality” of two entities which are not the same in essence.
If your Jesus is one of two entities that is co-eternal with another and does not possess the same substance? Then the Jesus you speak of is never Christian but Arian = ancient heresy condemned by the Catholic Church. Your Jesus is separated from the Father because your Jesus is not consubstantial with the Father. You divide the Trinity and created a monster.
The sun can be eternal, its rays are co-eternal with it.
Servant that is not what your Bahai trinity teaches. If a sun ray co-exist with the Sun then you have two different sun’s- co-existing together according to your logic here. The Sun Ray and the Sun are of the same substance existing. The Sun does not co-exist with it’s own sun ray.
The Sun does not proceed just as the Father in heaven does not proceed from no one, yet the sun ray of the same substance as the Sun proceeds from the Sun, just as the only begotten Son of the Father proceeds from the Father, when we profess the Son is consubstantial with the Father in divinity, substance, nature, essence, existing eternally without no beginning and no end.
The Essence of God (deus a se) is eternal and its “First Emanation” is co-eternal with it.
That’s fine, but that is not Christian and it does not reflect Jesus, God or the Trinity.
We do not separate or divide God’s Essence as if God’s Essence co-exists with another form (“first Emanation”) of deity that is not of God’s Essence.
We profess that the Father is God, the Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God. God’s Essence does **not co-exist **with any of the persons of the Trinity. **Each person of the Trinity is God in pure Essence, what we profess in consubstantiality One God **and no other.
Your Essence of God co-exists eternally with another existence which you defined as “it’s first Emanation”. How can a First Emanation co-exist with God’s Essence? Have you not two different god’s co-existing eternally according to your definition of God’s Essence being one God eternal existing distinct from “it’s First Emanation” is another god existing eternally?
The Word is not the deus a se, it is the “First Emanation”…without which creation cannot exist.
Those are nice words, but that is never Christian and your “Word” contradicts the scriptures.
Christians believe like John’s gospel; "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God,
HE was in the beginning with God, and all things were made through
HIM.
All things were created through the Word = Logos or the Only Begotten Son of the Father is God incarnate = The Word personified in Jesus Christ.
Now creation exist not because all things were made through the Word of God or the Son. What sustains Creation existence in space and time, is God’s Essence eternally Existing, when we profess the Son is consubstantial with the Father of the same Essence eternal existence sustains creation order of things, because the visible creation came from the invisible Essence of God. Creation’s essence exists in space and time, while God’s Essence is Existence itself.
Can you share why you feel this concept is impossible, or lacking please?
Your concept is impossible, because there is only One God with God’s Essence Existing and no other. I would not argue against your concept, when it is never Christian.
By your own Bahai, commentary you believe in a different Jesus that never existed in the first century and you preach a different gospel with a different and new Jesus that never walked the earth.
peace be with you
