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Tonks40
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The OP’s post recalls to mind this verse:
Pretty sobering thought.
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Sublime_Prince
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I am sorry I fail to see how this relates at all to what I posted. No one likes to eat things lukewarm whats your point? I think you are polymorphing that scripture into something it does not say at all. I could take that same scripture and come up with something completely different.
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LDNCatholic
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I think it is fairly apt. What other explaination could you bring forth from it?
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allana
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I also have family going to another church, i sing and pray at necessary times with them, and do not take communion nor go up for ‘healing prayers’, I use this opportunity to have friendly chats with the pastor there when he comes to greet me after the service and discretely put in ideas of worshiping God. Eg. in the sermon after one of our chats i heard him preaching that ‘good works were necessary to be saved’; i couldnt help but to smile, especially since he was preaching this while standing under a banner in his church with the words “Saved by faith alone in 2008”
Next, i guess he might put some kneeling benches, and have devotional prayers to Our Holy Mother too…
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Sublime_Prince
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He is talking about the meatloaf he had for dinner the previous night, it wasn’t sitting well in his belly and he was feeling rather sick.
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Tonks40
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This is only my opinion, and probably the opinion of others, but your obvious lack of insight and thought, in addition to your apparent irreverence, has me seriously doubting your sincerity in becoming Catholic.
Before you post any more, step back and look at yourself to see what you truly want. Our faith cannot be toyed with.
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Sublime_Prince
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Thank you for the advice. I have stepped back and looked at what I truly want and I am very confident in my decisions. I seem a man full of light where others can only see partial light. I see a man becoming what many cannot achieve.
Yes I am very sure in my decision.
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RebeccaJ
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Which, apparently, is all that religion is to you. A buffet designed for your personal pleasures and tastes. It is a carnal faith, where you are unable to remain faithful to one.
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Dale_M
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Yep. This came to a head three years ago when the executive assistant to Bishop Michael Sheridan of Colorado Springs ran a column in the diocesan newspaper criticizing the practice of Catholics attending New Life Church. This is the church that Ted Haggard headed before scandals knocked him down. Apparently thousands of Catholics attend this Evangelical church every weekend.
At any rate, the bishop had to issue a retraction and apology for the column, saying it was simply the assistant’s personal views. According to the Rev. Karl Useldinger, diocesan chancellor and judicial vicar, the Catholic church allows its adherents to participate in other Christian services as long as they don’t take part in another church’s sacraments and continue to attend Catholic Mass.
cbs4denver.com/local/Colorado.News.Colorado.2.543905.html
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Sublime_Prince
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No I am able to see light in other denominations where others miss out on that light. I can see light, more light, and further light by not limiting my mind and interpreting scripture from many different perspectives that each denomination has. Only by doing this can one truly be brought to light.
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LDNCatholic
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So says you. ‘‘Conversion’’ or not, I doubt with that mindset you can become a Catholic.
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Tonks40
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I agree. Sounds like some quasi-Christian, new age mumbo-jumbo.
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Sublime_Prince
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Its sad how one religion claims it has the sole interpretation when other religions bring something up that really is just important but ignored.
I believe in all the sacraments of the catholic church, but I also believe in being baptized when you can make a willing decision and doing an alter call to profess your belief in God.
I also believe that as Christians we should call each other brothers in christ.
I just am reading my bible and trying to do everything it says in there.
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puzzleannie
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well we could begin by asking not, what if I want to do something, but rather, what does God want me to do. How does he wish to be worshipped. What Church did His Son establish. What manner of worship did his Son institute? That is where I would be headed. and like the man who sold all he had to buy the field wherein was hidden the pearl of great price, I would not rest until I found that church and that worship.
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ralphinal
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From a Catholic stand-point, I would say that cheese-cake flavored pudding is not cheese-cake. If some one fully emersed themselves in Catholicism, they would see the light of God in ways that no non-Catholic denomination can grant. Sure, that pudding may be good, but trust me, it is not the real thing!
From an intellectual standpoint, there is merit in knowing what others beleive. This knowledge, however, does not inherently make them a satisfactory substitute. Knowing that the cheese-cake pudding is not as good does not tell you what the real think tastes like.
Is a sunset over the beach different than one over the mountains? Yes. But, they are both the same sunset. IT is the perception that is different. Locking yourself into the Truth does not make you narrow-minded. IT makes you focused on the Truth. The reason that there are different denomination has nothing to do with God but everything to do with men. It is a perception think brought on by man’s fallen nature. To say that I cannot comprehend God because I refuse to see the limits that other men place on him is crazy.
But how do you know that your classmates were not idiots? How do you know they read the book? The Catholic Church proclaims the Fullness of Truth on earth. No other notes are needed and many are not applicable. Would you rather your neurologist read the notes that other had taken or learned from those who came before him and had succeded? How about his book? On the job training?
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LDNCatholic
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So you do not beleive that the Catholic Church contains the fullness of Truth. That will no doubt hinder your progress to conversion.
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oneGODoneCHURCH
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Yes it can be fun to see them do things like that. It does make you wonder why they refuse to come home to the Church. Must be human pride.I also have family going to another church, i sing and pray at necessary times with them, and do not take communion nor go up for ‘healing prayers’, I use this opportunity to have friendly chats with the pastor there when he comes to greet me after the service and discretely put in ideas of worshiping God. Eg. in the sermon after one of our chats i heard him preaching that ‘good works were necessary to be saved’; i couldnt help but to smile, especially since he was preaching this while standing under a banner in his church with the words “Saved by faith alone in 2008”
Next, i guess he might put some kneeling benches, and have devotional prayers to Our Holy Mother too…
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RebeccaJ
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You are immature in your thoughts, as you believe that you would be the only person in the world who had ever come up with such an idea. And believe everyone else is missing out on your great discovery. It is the way of thinking for a teenager, whose newly discovered freedom was never discovered before, and rebellion against authority defines “enlightenment”.
You are gathering the dim lights of truth that have come out of Christ’s Church and are refusing, or not able to see, the possibility that those lights have a source.
There is no greater altar than the altar in Christ’s Church. There is no greater perspective than Truth.
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oneGODoneCHURCH
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Catholics do not ignore what truths are found in the Protestants they are found in the Holy Catholic church. We stand firm on that only the Catholic church holds the fullness of truth.
The Catholic church as an Altar call at every Mass. When go up to Receive the Eucharist. Baptism cleanses the soul of original sin At the sacrament of confirmation you take on the Baptismal vows upon yourself.
there is nothing wrong with that
You need to ease up and let Christ work on you. You can find no more fullness than In the Catholic Church. Stop turning the channel on the radio and listen to all that is being said on the channel your on. By jumping from church to church you are not giving yourself time to build a sound foundation. Stop just stop. Brother, faith that Christ has given us is not a goulash stop stirring the pot and just let it simmer for a while. you will find that there is nothing in these protestants that you do not find in the Catholic church And so much more.
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Mark77
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When I had been away from the Catholic Church for a long time, I too attended many services of other faiths in my search for Jesus.
They each had loving, dedicated people who loved Jesus completely. They also had parts of the truth Jesus taught, but none of them had the entire truth.
Something critical was missing.
While the people I met were truly committed and “on fire” with love for Jesus, they were also teaching important things that were not only untrue, but that actually harmful, as they denied the many important parts of the Truth that Jesus taught us.
They all had different interpretations of Holy Scripture, even within their own church. Often they split apart over these differences, resulting in today’s 100,000 plus protestant denominations.
None of them had Apostolic Succession, exclusively found through the laying on of hands from Jesus himself through the Apostles to today’s Catholic Clergy.
The biggest problem is the fact that none of the protestant denominations had the Holy Eucharist! The Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, which He gives to us through the Holy Mass.
Read John 6 in it’s entirety, it unmistakable that Jesus gives His true flesh and blood for us! No way it’s symbolic. Jn 6:66 is the only time in Scripture that some of His followers left him, if He were speaking symbolically, as so many of our protestant friends believe,no one would have left. Yet most of our protestant brothers misinterpret this crucial teaching of Jesus.
This is only one critical example of the numerous errors taught by many people with good intentions. “Once Saved always saved” and “Sola Scriptura” are just 2 other teachings that are not Scriptural and are totally in error.
Love your Christian brothers, but do not fall into the trap of assuming that because they are excited and committed that they are right.
I love my children, but if they passionately believe that the “choice” of killing unborn babies through abortion is ok because it is legal and accepted by society, I will still tell them that they are wrong because it violates Jesus’ command to us to love each other and because love them.
You will only find Jesus’ Truth, in it’s entire perfection, existing exclusively today in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church that He established 2000 years ago. The Catholic Church was not founded by any man, Martin Luther, Smith, or any other. It is the only Church founded by Jesus Christ himself!
If you truly love Jesus you will do whatever He tells you, no matter how difficult or unpopular it may be.
Read Holy Scripture, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and any other Catholic resources to learn the Truth, the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth that Jesus taught us!
God Bless You!
Mark
They each had loving, dedicated people who loved Jesus completely. They also had parts of the truth Jesus taught, but none of them had the entire truth.
Something critical was missing.
While the people I met were truly committed and “on fire” with love for Jesus, they were also teaching important things that were not only untrue, but that actually harmful, as they denied the many important parts of the Truth that Jesus taught us.
They all had different interpretations of Holy Scripture, even within their own church. Often they split apart over these differences, resulting in today’s 100,000 plus protestant denominations.
None of them had Apostolic Succession, exclusively found through the laying on of hands from Jesus himself through the Apostles to today’s Catholic Clergy.
The biggest problem is the fact that none of the protestant denominations had the Holy Eucharist! The Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, which He gives to us through the Holy Mass.
Read John 6 in it’s entirety, it unmistakable that Jesus gives His true flesh and blood for us! No way it’s symbolic. Jn 6:66 is the only time in Scripture that some of His followers left him, if He were speaking symbolically, as so many of our protestant friends believe,no one would have left. Yet most of our protestant brothers misinterpret this crucial teaching of Jesus.
This is only one critical example of the numerous errors taught by many people with good intentions. “Once Saved always saved” and “Sola Scriptura” are just 2 other teachings that are not Scriptural and are totally in error.
Love your Christian brothers, but do not fall into the trap of assuming that because they are excited and committed that they are right.
I love my children, but if they passionately believe that the “choice” of killing unborn babies through abortion is ok because it is legal and accepted by society, I will still tell them that they are wrong because it violates Jesus’ command to us to love each other and because love them.
You will only find Jesus’ Truth, in it’s entire perfection, existing exclusively today in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church that He established 2000 years ago. The Catholic Church was not founded by any man, Martin Luther, Smith, or any other. It is the only Church founded by Jesus Christ himself!
If you truly love Jesus you will do whatever He tells you, no matter how difficult or unpopular it may be.
Read Holy Scripture, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and any other Catholic resources to learn the Truth, the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth that Jesus taught us!
God Bless You!
Mark
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