No, my own response was not a remark against you… but it was against the common conservative misconception that the poor are lazy and don’t deserve welfare.
Oh, I forgot, I wasn’t suppose to show compassion was I, since I am one of those ‘unscientific religious people’ ! Sorry, I went past my stereotyped image.
God Bless, maryJohnZ
That’s how it was with me, too. Back then, fathers weren’t supposed to be helping the kids learn. But that was an aberration of the industrial revolution. Prior to that, dads were just as involved as the mothers. And it works better. My sons are better men, my daughters are better women for it.
Ironic. One of my sons is a poet, and has been published in a literary magazine. (software development pays the bills) One of them is a lawyer, and one is a rather good artist. The last is nice, since he shares my love of photography.
MaryJohnZ;3737953 My sister is brilliant said:
Thanks Reggie, for kind words. It is a good book. I would recommend it. It was interesting because my sister was receiving all kinds of praise for showing what essentially was part of Catholic history/ culture and how it revealed Catholic belief about the Eucharist and my mom, a high school graduate but old fashion Catholic couldn’t understand it all…afterall, they learned all that stuff when she was growing up. Shows how Catholic education programs have short changed our generation and present generations of children,
Nurture! My father is a Patristic theologian, and my mother’s degree was in international relations; they left the county so we could be educated. We still own the 50 acres I grew up on, and I go there as often as I can get away from my university job. Actually it’s quite interesting talking with my old classmates, and teaching my ten-year old to chainsaw and shoot guns. My kids’ lives are enriched by having one foot in the world of international scholarship and the other in the rural redneck life.
The Republicans would never go for paying moms to stay home with the kids, as that sort of fiscal irresponsibility is antithetical to “compassionate” conservatism.
Well, I hope the technology to select embryos that results in speciments such as your older son will proliferate and be used widely. I simply loathe the aspect of chance in human reproduction. If that makes me a reviled “eugenicist” then I support eugenics. And I do not see what’s wrong with “eugenics” in that context.
Ribozyme, why do you loathe chance? Admittedly my wife and I are fortunate not to have children with serious genetic anomalies, and I know if we had that might change my perspective considerably. But I love how different my two sons are, coming as they did from the same gene pool. They reflect some things in each of their parents, and have traits uniquely their own; each day with them is a delight (except that the older one is approaching teen angst!)
That’s not unusual. First borns tend to be more focused and successful.
Why do you all stereotype what “success” is, —meaning the university educated high achiever… I doubt God see success in the same way. What about the 'little way" of St, Theresa and Brother Andre, the 'door keeper". I guess madern day eugenics would have eliminated such people if they could.
Well, let’s take a look…
In fact, I showed you that as early as 1918, Darwinists demonstrated that classical eugenics, as proposed by your people, was fatally flawed. And nothing whatever in Darwinian theory supports eugenics. As Darwinians showed, eugenics can’t work.
Remember, we showed that your people (lawyers, theologians, etc.) established eugenics, and that scientists rejected it.
There may be a few non-Darwinians, but not many. The people from the Pioneer Fund, for example. But Darwinians like Gould demolished their arguments, too.
We showed that even Stephen Gould willingly accepted a YE creationist as a doctoral candidate, but that IDers and creationists refuse to let those of opposing views into their institutions. Like the Soviet leaders, who lambasted the US for any perceived violation of rights, while savagely persecuting dissent themselves, the IDers are accusing scientists of the very sins they commit.
The problem for you is a lack of evidence for your belief.
The’ve already shown that eugenics are bad science, and can’t work. That’s all science can do.
We’ve established that he lied. You cannot serve truth by lying.
Your people, not mine. Nothing in science promotes that.
You might as well say plumbing does. For the same reasons. It might be a bit disconcerting to accept that Stein lied to you. But he did. At some point, you have to come to terms with reality.
You have a problem with child care? I guess that’s the Republican mentaility? Both my sons attended a wonderfully nurturing Christian child care center, and now attend a wonderfully nurturing Catholic school. I don’t have a problem with child care; I just have a problem with people who don’t care enough about children to fund it, or who slash medical coverage for children, like Bush did.
Plumbers have access to lead pipes, acetylene torches, and other instruments capable of horrific torture. Besides, it was plumbers who assembled the showers in the Nazi death camps, and we know what those “showers” were used for. MaryJohnZ, do you realize the contributions plumbers have made to genocide?
MaryJohnZ – there you go again – twisting someone else’s words. I never stereotyped “success.” I hope you can participate in a discussion some day in which you don’t twist someone’s word or quote out of context.
The children you are gifted with are your responsibility, not the governments.
