Benedictine Oblate #2

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TimothyH said:
No apology required. Your response is fair enough. Don’t go there if you feel it will jeapordize your faith. Your “Perhaps someday I will be in a place” I think is perfect.

The older I get the more I become open to not being stuck in my own box with my own presupposition. I was just suggesting. That’s all. Pax

-Tim-
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Cheers Tim. I really do appreciate the help. The older I get the more I realize what I have been missing all along and the more I want to dive into it.

Guess we are just at difference places in our Faith journey. 🙂
 
jwinch2 said:
Well, its far from worked out, but I am certainly more optimistic than I was yesterday at this time. Clear Creek is about 5 hours away from where I live but it will likely be worth it. The more I learn about Benedictine Spirituality, the more I like it.

One of the things which was in the article sent was interesting. They do not have Oblate meetings, they deal with their Oblates individually.

Thanks for the support, I will of course keep everyone in the loop with what happens. I have a few other e-mails out as well so its hard to know where this is going right now.

Peace,
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Wow, interesting:thumbsup:
 
Jason,

I truly believe that you have found your home.

Prayers offered (again).
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
Jason,

I truly believe that you have found your home.

Prayers offered (again).
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Thanks for the prayers as always. As for the rest, it is early, very early, in the process. In addition, I have some e-mails out to other monasteries as well. I am cautiously optimistic about Clear Creek, but that is as far as I can take it at this point.

Peace,
 
jwinch2 said:
Thanks for the prayers as always. As for the rest, it is early, very early, in the process. In addition, I have some e-mails out to other monasteries as well. I am cautiously optimistic about Clear Creek, but that is as far as I can take it at this point.

Peace,
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Works for me 😃
 
Praying for you Jason. If it helps, I also had a lot of emails to various monasteries, most of whom turned me down due to distance. God will put you where He wants you. 🙂
 
mylo said:
Praying for you Jason. If it helps, I also had a lot of emails to various monasteries, most of whom turned me down due to distance. God will put you where He wants you. 🙂
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Thanks for the prayers and the support!

Peace,
 
mylo said:
Praying for you Jason. If it helps, I also had a lot of emails to various monasteries, most of whom turned me down due to distance. God will put you where He wants you. 🙂
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Prayers offered for a safe delivery and a healthy baby. 🙂
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
Tim,

I do not mean this as a slap to your post in any way, OK?

Been there, done that, though, with another group of the Church. Some very wonderful people, so I stayed (for 10 years). A very vocal minority that were espousing ideas that went against the teachings of the Church. Kept saying to myself “well, they are on the opposite side on several issues; maybe God is trying to test my patience/humility/loyalty/what have you”. In the end, I just couldn’t take it anymore. So I left. Very difficult decision, I can assure you.

I love my Bennie group. They “fit” so well, that at times I wonder if it isn’t too “easy”*. I have prayed and prayed and prayed about this. My conclusion: they fit because, well, they fit. Stop fighting it, Lou.
  • I am not saying that they are a perfect fit. They are very Charismatic. Not saying that it’s wrong for them to be so. It just isn’t my “thing”. But it isn’t harmful and is rooted in a love of the Holy Spirit. Maybe letting go and accepting the fainting 😃 is my “challenge” .
    I can live with that. Much better than having to deal with an openly lesbian “couple” (with child 😦 ) as I had to in my former group, that’s for sure.
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OK. 🙂

Understood. I probably would not have stayed long in the same situation.

-Tim-
 
Those of you who know my history know that I have been in formation with the Dominican Laity for approx. the past year. So, this looking into the Benedictine Route is fairly new to me in terms of time, though I do tend to read quite a bit. Since I have not made professions to the Order of Preachers and until God reveals which direction He prefers for me and I make a decision either way (Dominican, Benedictine, Neither), I plan to continue studying and exploring both Orders.

So, here is a question which has come up in my looking into becoming a Benedictine Oblate. How does the dynamic of non-Catholic Oblates affect formation, teaching, doctrinal discussions, liturgy, etc? I know that it is common for non-Catholics to become Oblates. However, one of things I cannot imagine is how one has a discussion about authentic Catholic teaching or spirituality when several people in the room fundamentally disagree with the Church on many different issues. Again and again, when I read about the practice of non-Catholic Oblates, it causes me to take a step back.

Thoughts?

Peace of Christ,
 
Jason,

I can’t be much help, because my group does not have non-Catholics.

I must admit that I’ve always thought it a tad odd, TBH. Particularly in light of R73
(the Rule of St Benedict, Chapter 73)
 
Note my edit, above. 😉

I do think that there are many monasteries that do have nonRC. I am fairly certain that the many groups run by mine do not, though.

In all honesty, and I do not mean to judge the nonRC that are Oblates, I just can’t understand how they feel confortable about meetings. If they are, great. I just can’t understand how in light of the Liturgy of the Hours, prayer time, etc.
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
In all honesty, and I do not mean to judge the nonRC that are Oblates, I just can’t understand how they feel confortable about meetings. If they are, great. I just can’t understand how in light of the Liturgy of the Hours, prayer time, etc.
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It doesn’t make much sense to me either. I understand welcoming all as Christ, as that is an obviously Benedictine approach per St. Benedict himself. But non-Catholic Oblates don’t make as much sense to me I guess. I don’t know the Rule as well as you do, but off the cuff, I agree with your statement about Chapter 73. Particularly as it refers to following the teachings of the Church Fathers, etc.

Also, I certainly would not have a problem with Eastern Catholics becoming an Oblate, just for clarification purposes.

If I may ask, what group of Benedictines do you belong to, since you suggested that they do not accept non-Catholics?
 
jwinch2 said:
It doesn’t make much sense to me either. I understand welcoming all as Christ, as that is an obviously Benedictine approach per St. Benedict himself. But non-Catholic Oblates don’t make as much sense to me I guess. I don’t know the Rule as well as you do, but off the cuff, I agree with your statement about Chapter 73. Particularly as it refers to following the teachings of the Church Fathers, etc.

Also, I certainly would not have a problem with Eastern Catholics becoming an Oblate, just for clarification purposes.

If I may ask, what group of Benedictines do you belong to, since you suggested that they do not accept non-Catholics?
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I am not 100% sure that they don’t, but I know that my chapter does not. (We’ve actually discussed it a bit).

Olivetan.

Here is the “mother monastery”, I guess you’d call it near Siena.

monte-oliveto.com/
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
I am not 100% sure that they don’t, but I know that my chapter does not. (We’ve actually discussed it a bit).

Olivetan.

Here is the “mother monastery”, I guess you’d call it near Siena.

monte-oliveto.com/
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Interesting. There is an Olivetan Double Monastery (Monks and Sisters) about 5 hours away from where I live. I made some contact with one of the brothers and they are sending me an information packet at some point. pecosmonastery.org/

Peace,
 
jwinch2 said:
Interesting. There is an Olivetan Double Monastery (Monks and Sisters) about 5 hours away from where I live. I made some contact with one of the brothers and they are sending me an information packet at some point. pecosmonastery.org/

Peace,
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Wooooooohoooooooo. Now wouldn’t that be awesome?😃
 
Wait, this monastery is in New Mexico?

Hahahahahahahahahaha. The Lord works in mysterious ways, indeed.😃

The late Abbot of my monastery and most of the brothers came originally from Pecos.

If you choose them, we will be related 😃
 
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