Best Countries for Catholic Families

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I would say Singapore as the government is very strict when it comes to disrupting peace, they do not tolerate any disrespect towards religion, including catholicism. Gay marriage is not allowed so far, but abortion is. They are currently trying to encourage families to have more kids, which is nice. I feel it is way better than the USA but honestly, the younger generation is more westernised and the government IS secular, it’s just that they protect religious people a lot more. So it might not be that perfect
 
Harrison_Jacobs said:
My condolences to you AdamPeter. My Dad is from Dublin, so it is especially heart wrenching for me to watch Ireland secularize, though I can’t imagine how much worse it is for you who have called it home your entire life.
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Well on the bright side we have some great priests-in-training to instruct the future generations of Catholics.

As for me, I’ve met a beautiful and devout woman and we’re getting (real) married this Autumn. The plan is to re-Christianise the country.

It’s true that it’s unsettling and sad to see the country become more and more…“liberal”…for want of a better word. But the remedy isn’t to run away. It’s to stay and help the local Church.
 
Exiled_Child said:
Cool! Texans often make a really positive impression on me.

The other day I was riding the bus across town, and this Texan dude gave up his seat to an older woman. It was really busy and everyone was standing, including me, and this Texan guy stood up and said, “Please. Take my seat, ma’am.” It was funny because he had on this western attire and spoke with a super-thick accent. Then when the woman said, “Awwww, you’re nice!” he replied, I’m Texan!".😃
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That’s not the norm? Here if an older person is looking for a seat and no one obliges, the bus driver starts telling people off and doesn’t move until they have a seat. Only low life scum don’t give up a seat for the elderly.
 
twf said:
That’s not the norm? Here if an older person is looking for a seat and no one obliges, the bus driver starts telling people off and doesn’t move until they have a seat. Only low life scum don’t give up a seat for the elderly.
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Well, I don’t know if I’d use the the phrase “low life scum,” but no, I wouldn’t say that’s always the norm in downtown Seattle.

Sometimes people do, sometimes people don’t.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bus driver helping someone find a seat before…
 
Exiled_Child said:
Well, I don’t know if I’d use the the phrase “low life scum,” but no, I wouldn’t say that’s always the norm in downtown Seattle.

Sometimes people do, sometimes people don’t.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bus driver helping someone find a seat before…
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That was perhaps a bit harsh. It does make me angry though when people show such disrespect. Yeah the drivers are mostly pretty good up here in Vancouver. It’s not that they help people find a seat, but if people aren’t jumping up for someone elderly or disabled they will start yelling :D.
 
I’m an American expat living in the UK.

Most of the time you can’t just pick up and move to another country just because you want to. It’s often a very complicated process with a lot of hurdles to clear. In many places, if you aren’t a family member joining your family or have citizenship with a country that doesn’t require a visa, often it’s expected that immigration authorities will want you to have a job in place before moving there and/or means of supporting yourself and your family, and you will have to document and supply a lot of paperwork for that before and after you move there. Even settling in a country permanently takes years of paperwork and documentation.

It is a much more difficult process than people realize. I had not planned on living in the UK earlier in my life. If someone told me that I would be moving to England, I would have told them that was cool, but absurd. Sometimes even today I wonder how I ended up here and why I’m driving on the left side of the road.

It is, of course, a terribly secular place. That said, God’s instruments are needed everywhere.

So all that said…I trust God leads us to wherever we need to be if we take it to prayer. If he’s calling us somewhere, it will happen. I read a recent article about a couple of families that ended up moving to Alabama near the EWTN studios – I thought that was pretty cool. 🙂
 
Find an area that is predominantly Catholic within the US since even in majority Catholic countries they are rarely “Catholic”. The grass generally seems greener on the other side but rarely is unless there is something uber soecific that appeals to you.

The only problem in the US is the the biggest Catholic areas statistically are both often “rarely” Catholic just like above mentioned nations, and are the big cities. Somehow the most Catholic areas are actually the least “Catholic” and often the most despicable idk how/why lol.

However there are some odd smaller towns that have an oddly real Catholic population. And same would apply to other countries.
 
anon67074017 said:
Maybe the Confederate States of America would be good for Catholics if they won the Civil War or if they ever become independent in the future. Anyway, Malta appears to be the best country for Catholics outside of Vatican City. Both abortion and same-sex marriage are illegal there.
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Not sure slavery would jive with Catholic doctrine…:rolleyes:
 
jtauke said:
Not sure slavery would jive with Catholic doctrine…:rolleyes:
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The Confederacy would have eventually abolished slavery.

I did not realize that. That is unfortunate. Italy should stay strong.
BobCatholic said:
Not really.

The Ku Klux Klan were big time powerful in the Confederacy, and they hated Catholics.
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The new Confederacy would reject the Ku Klux Klan.
 
“To Kill A Mockingbird”. It’s a story that Atticus told to Scout.
 
I really think people should have a catholic frontier mentality. Start living in catholic communities like Ave Maria. Get loads of kids. Evangelize. Enough of this lukewarm christianity. Adopt children. But do this in a community. I think we live to individualistic these days.

As for countries.
Italy, Poland, Malta, Spain, Portugal, Brasil, Goa (India).

I’ve heard somebody say France, you surely shouldn’t pick France, it’s secularism 2.0 overthere.
 
Well, Harper Lee did draw from real life, it may very well have happened somewhere (but may have never been reported if the real life incident dissipated as quickly as the book events did.)
 
Young_Ludovicus said:
I really think people should have a catholic frontier mentality. Start living in catholic communities like Ave Maria. Get loads of kids. Evangelize. Enough of this lukewarm christianity. Adopt children. But do this in a community. I think we live to individualistic these days.

As for countries.
Italy, Poland, Malta, Spain, Portugal, Brasil, Goa (India).

I’ve heard somebody say France, you surely shouldn’t pick France, it’s secularism 2.0 overthere.
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Spain, Portugal, and Brazil allow same-sex marriage. Portugal and India are also socialist.
 
Goa is far from being a Catholic paradise, let me assure you. You’ll often hear statements like “I am both a Hindu and a Christian” even from “cradle Catholics”. Blame Operation Vijay (sorry; on my phone so posting links is hard.)

India as a whole is growing subtly more anti-Christian; moreover, there is a burgeoning gay rights movement and liberalisation of abortion laws is on the anvil. This isn’t helped by the fact that our church has fallen prey to indifferentism / syncretism, contraceptive mentality, and bad liturgy. By all means, do visit us and pray for us, but I wouldn’t recommend migrating if what you seek is a good country for Catholics…
 
PolarGuy said:
I chose to live in the greatest country in the world: the United States of America.

When there is a disaster anywhere in the world, who gives of their time and money to help? The citizens of the USA. /QUOTE]
Please tell me you don’t seriously think this is a
PolarGuy;13798064:
I have great respect for Ireland and its people. That said, one of my best friends is very Irish and I was at his house for a party once, and he was extolling the virtues of Ireland - till someone said “if Ireland is so great, why wouldn’t they fight Hitler?”

It was an awkward moment…and yet…isn’t that maybe a fair question? Sorry to be a boor.
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The US refused to ‘fight Hitler’ until the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour and Hitler declared war on the US. So not much different from Ireland. I’m sure if Ireland too had been attacked they would have gotten involved to the best of their ability.

Although I’m really giving the question too much weight. One question is hardly enough to determine if a country is ‘great’. Especially when it involves something from 70 years ago and completely ignores everything else a country has done, before and after, as well as the reasons why they chose their course of action.

Before you think I’m been defensive, my country did help fight Hitler. We didn’t wait for him to declare war on us. We entered when Great Britain declared war on Germany. I guess that means Australia is a greater nation than the US? 'cause you know, apparently this is a very important question. :rolleyes:
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Ash_Wednesday said:
I’m an American expat living in the UK.

Most of the time you can’t just pick up and move to another country just because you want to. It’s often a very complicated process with a lot of hurdles to clear. In many places, if you aren’t a family member joining your family or have citizenship with a country that doesn’t require a visa, often it’s expected that immigration authorities will want you to have a job in place before moving there and/or means of supporting yourself and your family, and you will have to document and supply a lot of paperwork for that before and after you move there. Even settling in a country permanently takes years of paperwork and documentation.

It is a much more difficult process than people realize.
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This is so helpful. Thank you. I had wondered if I was going to leave this country someday because it’s become so anti-Christian, but your description of how things are set me straight.

In fact, this thread is very helpful, because I can see that there is no culture of devout Catholics, in which a strong Catholic faith is accepted.

Maybe it’s time we all accepted that we are citizens of Heaven (Philippians 3:20) and not of any earthly culture. After all, we are not required to live in good cultures, only to bring in good influences and cut out the bad.
 
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