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I currently own the Baronius Press 1962 missal. Although it is a beautiful missal it is very big and hefty. Is there a lighter missal other than the Baronius Press and the red booklet of the EF Mass?
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I think the Angelus is lighter but FWIW, maybe it would be better to see what changes they plan to make, if any, on the 62 Missal before buying any more EF handmissals. They may add more saints or more prefaces which is quite probable. There is also the possibility of going to 3-yr cycle, which would make 70-95% of the existing EF handmissals quite obsolete. But I’m just going on rumors.
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codefro
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I had not heard of any changes? I thought the existence of the EF mass was to leave it as is for the forseeable future. Where did you learn about these possible changes?
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MarMax
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I have both the Baronius and the Angelus. I maintain the Baronius for home use (using the prayers sections, etc) and find the Angelus to be more user-friendly due to the layout as concerns following the Mass. The Canon layout of the Baronius is off-putting to me. Perhaps you will find it useful. My advice is to look over both and figure out which will be more useful for you. That’s my non-committal answer. 
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TrueLight had a link to it and it was discussed in this thread.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=9827053#post9827053
Someone else made the comment about a 3-yr cycle in that thread. But even if they just go to the vernacular, there are retranslations of the Latin that could very well be considered. There is more than one English Bible. In any event, if this situation is like the 60’s, people will be using less and less of their own handmissals as changes become the rule. But I’m just using history as my guide here.
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codefro
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this doesn’t sound like a very realistic probability…
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FWIW, I hope you’re right, because the purchase of any more handmissals is not in my budget.
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I mean, I think this is kind of cool. Personally, I think something needs to be done to the Novus Ordo to move toward a common mass- alas a hybrid. I think traditionalists should sympathize with trying to do this because, after all, many are fans of the day when there was a common mass with a common language. Right now there are two forms of the mass. So if making the Novus Ordo a hybrid with the EF, I do not see that as necessarily a bad thing. It really depends how it is done. Although I do think the EF should still be preserved even if a new Novus Ordo is formulated.
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One of my hang-ups with the EF is that the calendar does not include post 1962 saints. I understand why, but I feel like some really awesome (and recent) saints should make it on the calendar
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Anyways, back to my topic-
Does anybody own this missal:
amazon.com/St-Andrew-Daily-Missal-1945/dp/B0012J2UWO/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt
Any thoughts on it? I know this is the '45 but I have heard that the differences are minor
Does anybody own this missal:
amazon.com/St-Andrew-Daily-Missal-1945/dp/B0012J2UWO/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt
Any thoughts on it? I know this is the '45 but I have heard that the differences are minor
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I have this, the Father Lasance, and the St. Joseph. They are all useable for the EF, except the St. Joseph is not good for following the propers in Latin, but it was the most popular and extensively used in the late 50’s in the U.S.
St. Andrew’s and Father Lasance are quite thick though.
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Personally I don’t see a better hybrid than the existing Latin OF. But that’s me.
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Get the Stedman’s Missal if you want something small:
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codefro
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I read your posts on the “The Latin Mass- why you can’t…” thread, they were very thoughtful. I have been to an OF Mass in Latin and it was very reverential. Yet, after attending the EF I could stand to see some aspects of the EF make more blatant presence in the OF. As far as my taste would dictate- secret prayers make their way back in certain places, the priest face towards Christ with the congregation, the EF prayer as the priests distributes the host (which is also the prayer used in the Anglican Use), and I like having the priest say the Pater Noster and the laymen finish up the ending, and universally install kneelers back and have kneeling be the official norm for recieving the eucharist. I think many young Catholics express themselves well with more kneeling, and I get a sense that there is a big request to see the kneelers return. I personally would love it.
Anyways,
I thought I saw someone with the St. Andrew Missal and it didn’t look as thick as my Baronius missal…
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I guess here is where much controversy can arise. Vatican II, after all, appears to have wanted to remove those secret prayers, not only because the congregation couldn’t engage in them but also because of their content. For example, the Aufer a Nobis prayer makes reference to *Sancta Sanctorum *(“the Holy of Holies”) and of course this would necessitate the presence of at least the Tabernacle at every Mass. These types of prayers will need to be carefully studied as to their suitability.
Thanks for your compliment, by the way.
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I have an original ‘62 edition. It’s very good but didn’t you want a lighter missal? This is just as hefty as my friends’ Baronius missals.
Try the *My Sunday Missal *by Newman Press if you want a lightweight, pocket-sized missal. The text is nice and big but it fits in my suit coat pocket when I go up for Holy Communion. That fact that it’s a reprint of the '54 doesn’t matter except during Holy Week.
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I think it is quite likely and feel that it is quite desirable for new saints to be added to the Sanctoral Cycle of the old Calendar, but I think it is quite unlikely that the readings will go to a three-year cycle. I certainly hope that does not happen. As far as the Prefaces are concerned, I think there are decent arguments for and against, and I am less certain on the likelihood of this. For stability’s sake, I would hope not. I feel the EF has been tinkered with enough and that there needs to be a very long period of stability.
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At the recommendation of some here, I purchased this missal and highly recommend it. It is very small and portable and perfect if you don’t go to the EF regularly (ie only on Sundays). Holy Week has been updated in the latest edition.
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codefro
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I read a review on Amazon saying that this missal is only for low masses. Is that true?
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That would be odd, being that it’s a Sunday Missal and has the Holy Days, etc. Perhaps it does not contain the parts of the Canon for the Deacon, sub-deacon etc? No clue.
One thing I do is seek out used bookstores and antique places. I have found MANY useful older Missals at a heck of a good price.
I would recommend getting a proper, full Missal so you aren’t lost in the sauce per chance you get to go to daily Mass. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
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