Beware of Catholics for Equality

[edwest2]

catholicsforequality.org/page/marriage-equality

No one is against equality as it is generally defined but this organization is for redefining marriage.

God bless,
Ed

 

[po18guy]

Homosexuals have the exact same right to marry the opposite gender as heterosexuals do. That is true equality. That some choose to reject true equality puts the lie to their “equality” canard.

 

[Elizabeth502]

I navigated their website. (Click on the Issues tab.) These people are very confused.

 

[RosaryFan]

Homosexuals have the exact same right to marry the opposite gender as heterosexuals do. That is true equality. That some choose to reject true equality puts the lie to their “equality” canard.

Good one!

 

[Mimi]

I navigated their website. (Click on the Issues tab.) These people are very confused.

No Kidding - notice the reference to Kinsey (“Dr” Alfred Kinsey):

How does it differ from heterosexuality?
Homosexuality differs merely in that a person’s strongest emotional and sexual responses are aroused by members of the same gender, rather than by individuals of the opposite sex, independent of whether or not they engage in genital contacts with each other. Homosexual people, contrary to popular opinion, do relate with ease to both genders on a social level. Lesbians do not experience repugnance toward men, nor do gay males have contempt for women. (Two-thirds of heterosexual men, according to Kinsey

, do not like women except as sex-objects, while a significant number of women find more warmth from gay males.)

Kinsey’s data was quite skewed as he collected much of it from among a prison population, so a very confused segment of society. Yet, (I seem to recall reading somewhere) that his estimation that 10% of the population is gay is still used today. There is a book out refuting and rejecting his research (female author as I recall).

Yup, there it is in the next paragraph!

How many are homosexual?
Most authorities generally estimate that at least ten percent of the population is homosexually oriented.

Strange that the very same paragraph is repeated. Hmmm.

I can imagine that, young people finding these kinds of sites, having been taught (or maybe not) the Catholic view on same-sex attraction (or SSA) would indeed become very confused and not know who to talk to. I mean, what if your priest is sympathetic to that point of view?? It could be disastrous. Almost 2 yrs ago, a young high school parishioner hung himself ! I often wonder how conflicted he might have been. Such a caring, gentle-natured kid, too. Sigh. Rumors in the community were he might have been SSA.

And how do YOU interpret this part:

But isn’t homosexuality sinful?
Despite assertions by most fundamentalist Christians and many charismatic groups, homosexuality, like heterosexuality, is not sinful. The U.S. bishops, in their 1976 pastoral letter To Live in Christ Jesus, clearly distinguished homosexual orientation from same-sex behavior. Pope John Paul II, in Chicago in 1979, quoted the bishops’ all-important distinction and praised their refusal to “betray those people who, because of homosexuality, are confronted with difficult moral problems… Rather, by your witness to the truth of humanity in God’s plan, you effectively manifested fraternal love upholding the true dignity, the true human dignity, of those who look to Christ’s Church for the guidance which comes from the light of God’s word” (Origins, v.9, n.18, p290).

Not very clear, IMO.

Mimi

 

[Mimi]

Found the refutation author:

Here’s a bit from the web site:
crossroad.to/articles2/2003/reisman/kinsey.htm

Rick Perlstein noted this ignorance in his ecstatic essay for the Washington Post, “What Gay Studies Taught the Court.” Perlstein observed, “commentators may have skipped their homework in reporting on the historical foundations of the majority’s decision,” for, although Lawrence was a “momentous” shift in America’s moral economy, “[w]hat hasn’t been explained is the basis for Kennedy’s landmark ruling.”

He was correct up to there. The Court based its disastrous sodomy ruling on fraudulent scholarship that deceived six justices. Their ignorance of junk “sex science” and junk history led directly to a grotesque decision that will further promote sex acts that sicken and kill countless people.

Perlstein offered an insider’s awareness that conservative lawyers or pundits seldom grasp. The justices, too, “skipped their homework” in considering “the foundations of the majority’s decision.” Inconceivably, the Court brazenly cited only secondary “scientific” authorities for their sodomy ruling.

In fact, tracing Kennedy’s opinion back to its origin reveals that the majority relied on only one sex “science” resource as the Court’s primary authority on sex and sodomy—namely, the bi/homosexual, sadomasochistic, proven fraud, Prof. Alfred C. Kinsey.

I warn you, if you intend to read more of this so-called “doctor” to pray protection from Our Lady for purity. What has been pushed on our society and touted as “normal” is a disgrace and a shame. And our parochial schools are emptying & closing at an alarming rate!

Our Lady of Fatima, Pray for Us! Our Lady of America, Pray for Us!

Mimi

 

[edwest2]

Please, no more alarming comments. The largest generation, the Baby Boomers, are past child bearing age. People are having fewer kids. That’s what’s actually going on regarding Catholic schools closing.

God bless,
Ed

 

[Mimi]

I just read a story in the Wash. Post where it stated that the school population increased 8 %.

washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/05/AR2010090502817.html
School reform’s meager results

By Robert J. Samuelson
Monday, September 6, 2010
snip:

Standard theories don’t explain this meager progress. Too few teachers? Not really. From 1970 to 2008, the student population increased 8 percent and the number of teachers rose 61 percent. The student-teacher ratio has fallen sharply, from 27-to-1 in 1955 to 15-to-1 in 2007. Are teachers paid too little? Perhaps, but that’s not obvious. In 2008, the average teacher earned $53,230; two full-time teachers married to each other and making average pay would belong in the richest 20 percent of households (2008 qualifying income: $100,240). Maybe more preschool would help. Yet, the share of 3- and 4-year-olds in preschool has rocketed from 11 percent in 1965 to 53 percent in 2008.

I don’t know about the number of school-age children nationally, though.

Mimi