Beware the Red Wave

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For what it’s worth, the Rasmussen and the LA Times polls were the only ones that came close to getting the 2016 election right. All of the other polls were consistently skewed in the Democrats’ direction by 4 to 8 points. Mostly due to flawed methodology that didn’t properly set the polling pool more accurately. And why was that? Perhaps it was the desire to let the rest of us know that Hillary was inevitable, give it up for her.

Strong suggestion for Democrats: they need to pay attention to Rasmussen for a more realistic idea where they stand and where they fall short. I’ve been suspecting that the heralded blue wave might turn into a dry riverbed. Red wave? Maybe, not yet convinced. But still got 4 more months.
 
Does this have to go with the film, “The Shining?”

That was a scary scene! 😳
 
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Dems got nothing to offer but ‘anti-Trump’ rhetoric.
  • No coherent economic strategy, just overtones of socialism. This is to a backdrop of Venezuela failing, and Europe struggling a bit.
  • No solutions to immigration beyond “let them in”. This is to a backdrop Trump just enforcing existing law.
  • No tax strategy beyond repealing what Trump did, something that’s popular and shown to be working.
  • No Foreign Policy strategy beyond they would kowtow vs Trump’s confrontational approach that seems to be working. Kowtowing certainly didn’t work well for Obama.
  • No trade strategy, except signing more deals that increase our trade deficit, making wall street happy.
 
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Dems got nothing to offer but ‘anti-Trump’ rhetoric.
  • No coherent economic strategy, just overtones of socialism. This is to a backdrop of Venezuela failing, and Europe struggling a bit.
  • No solutions to immigration beyond “let them in”. This is to a backdrop Trump just enforcing existing law.
  • No tax strategy beyond repealing what Trump did, something that’s popular and shown to be working.
  • No Foreign Policy strategy beyond they would kowtow vs Trump’s confrontational approach that seems to be working. Kowtowing certainly didn’t work well for Obama.
  • No trade strategy, except signing more deals that increase our trade deficit, making wall street happy.
They do have abortion on demand, the homosexual agenda, and victomology.
 
Dems got nothing to offer but ‘anti-Trump’ rhetoric.
As a slightly left leaning Independent, I have to agree with this. The Dems better get their act together - and quick - or the expected Blue Wave will turn out to be a very bright red.
 
As a slightly left leaning Independent, I have to agree with this. The Dems better get their act together - and quick - or the expected Blue Wave will turn out to be a very bright red.
What!?!? No way!?!?!? The mainstream media keeps telling us all the swing votes are stampeding to the left.
 
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Your link certainly doesn’t show it to be utter nonsense, it confirms most of the polls got it wrong.

Not sure if they qualify as a ‘major’, but the IBD/TIPP poll also was picking Trump in the General to at least tie.
 
Your link certainly doesn’t show it to be utter nonsense, it confirms most of the polls got it wrong.
Let me remind you of the post in questions:
For what it’s worth, the Rasmussen and the LA Times polls were the only ones that came close to getting the 2016 election right. All of the other polls were consistently skewed in the Democrats’ direction by 4 to 8 points.
First, there was the proposition of two polls uniquely “coming close”.
Given:
a) the vote diference favored HRC by 2.1%,
b) that “coming close” might reasonably mean getting the difference within the MoE (most polls had less than 100% responses for the candidate polled, i.e., still some DK’s or others not queried),
the claim is not supported in the least by the data
 
Are you confusing state polls with those for the General?

When I read the list only three polls repeatedly were signalling Trump
 
Are you confusing state polls with those for the General?
No.
When I read the list only three polls repeatedly were signalling Trump
The polls tracked the popular vote. Trump lost the popular vote by 2.1 percentage points. A poll that had Trump ahead by 2 -3 percentage points was off by 4-5 points and probably outside the MoE. They did not come close.
 
In the end Trump won, so to quote HC"'at this point in time what difference does it make anyway!!!🙌😆
 
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In the end Trump won, so to quote HC"'at this point in time what difference does it make anyway!!!
It makes no difference to the election outcome.
It does make a difference to ongoing interpretation of polling data and cherry-picking of favorable polls as though they indicate something that they do not.
 
Absolutely agree,hopefully the Dems have learned from recent history👍
 
No coherent economic strategy, just overtones of socialism. This is to a backdrop of Venezuela failing, and Europe struggling a bit.
Trump does not have a coherent strategy except for cutting taxes, raising the deficit and making consumers pay more.
No tax strategy beyond repealing what Trump did, something that’s popular and shown to be working.
In what way is the tax cut “working”?
No trade strategy, except signing more deals that increase our trade deficit, making wall street happy.
Trump’s trade strategy is based on the theory that people are too stupid to make their own decisions in the market and need the command and control of the government to determine whom they may buy from.
 
You are getting pedantic and deflecting again.

All I said was only three of the polls were repeatedly signaling Trump, this is in line with the early comment which you pretended to refute.
 
You are getting pedantic and deflecting again.
My link and comment, that you disputed, was directed to @Zzyzx_Road, who posted:
Rasmussen and the LA Times polls were the only ones that came close to getting the 2016 election right. All of the other polls were consistently skewed in the Democrats’ direction by 4 to 8 points.
If you to change the goal posts that is fine - apart form the fact that national voter preference polls do not directly measure electoral college outcomes - but let’s first agree, rather than dispute, that the actual facts do not support the conclusion of @Zzyzx_Road.
 
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