"Bible alone," Christians

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Didn’t the early Church pick the books for the Bible?
Is the Bible lacking anything that is needed for salvation? (not a church or a priest) words and instruction?
What else is needed for salvation that isn’t in the Bible?
Should tradition be ongoing till the end of eartly time?
Even the RCC backs everything up with Scripture right?
So what exactely is lacking in the Bible?

Besides churches. Of course one should belong to a church.

Is the Bible the inspired works of God? Is God over every man?

I don’t understand what you feel the Bible is lacking.
 
Luvtosew said:
Didn’t the early Church pick the books for the Bible?
Is the Bible lacking anything that is needed for salvation? (not a church or a priest) words and instruction?
What else is needed for salvation that isn’t in the Bible?
Should tradition be ongoing till the end of eartly time?
Even the RCC backs everything up with Scripture right?
So what exactely is lacking in the Bible?

Besides churches. Of course one should belong to a church.

Is the Bible the inspired works of God? Is God over every man?

I don’t understand what you feel the Bible is lacking.
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The Bible is a complete compilation of Scripture, but it does not contain everything about the Faith. It does not claim to contain every aspect of the Faith nor does it claim to be the sole Authority. The Bible cannot interpret itself, that is where the Magesterium (Church) and Tradition come into play. They interpret the meaning behind the verse.

The problem with “Bible Alone” is that the Bible cannot interpret itself. So, the problem is “Bible Alone” comes to be “My Opinion Alone”. If everyone should belong to a church, which one? Does it matter? Is it necessary? It is not a “should”, it is a must, because we are told to take everything to the Church. As for which one, the one that holds to the Truth.

You imply that everything needed for salvation is contained in the Bible, where does this idea come from? It certainly does not say that in the Bible.

BTW, using Scripture to “back up” Church Teaching, does not mean that everything necessary for Salvation is in the Bible.
 
Well I agree that interpretation is important ,but there are many good protestant churches with good preachers , spirit filled, not the ones that hop around on TV mind you.

I’m just wondering what the Bible is missing in terms of what is needed for salvation?
(I’m not talking Lords supper or confession or that) just in scripture what is missing?

Can you elaborate more on Tradition (Im Catholic but I’m not sure what you mean by Tradiiton) can you give me examples?

Also I’m not talking about an individual here that has never belonged to a church , I’m talking about a Church that follows Bible only.

Which Church, one that teaches according to Scripture, there are many good ones out there I’m sure.
 
Luvtosew said:
  1. Paul did go and spend time with the Apostles and well heard first hand of their accounts I imagine , but God told him not to be afraid and go out to preach
  2. God told him what to preach. Is that what you mean?
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  1. I don’t think we need to imagine, it is documented in Acts.
  2. No. God instructed him to preach WITH the other members of His Church.
Luvtosew said:
so I was curious you say you go to Bible study with your protestant friends and do you and them have a different take on some of the scriptures and if so what parts?
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This is for another thread. But… Justification, Papal authority, Confession to a Priest, Intercessory prayers to the saints, to name a few.
 
Luvtosew said:
Well I agree that interpretation is important ,but there are many good protestant churches with good preachers , spirit filled, not the ones that hop around on TV mind you.

I’m just wondering what the Bible is missing in terms of what is needed for salvation?
(I’m not talking Lords supper or confession or that) just in scripture what is missing?

Can you elaborate more on Tradition (Im Catholic but I’m not sure what you mean by Tradiiton) can you give me examples?

Also I’m not talking about an individual here that has never belonged to a church , I’m talking about a Church that follows Bible only.

Which Church, one that teaches according to Scripture, there are many good ones out there I’m sure.
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Of the many “good protestant churches with good preachers”, that teach different doctrines, which one is the Church that Christ founded?

Tradition, capital T, is the oral teaching Traditions that are handed down from the Apostles, through time, to the modern Church.

Why should any person belong to a church that teaches Bible only vs a Church that teaches using Scripture, Tradition and the Magesterium?

Which of the “many good churches”, do you think is the one Christ founded?
 
Isaiah 45,
Good questions!

Do I take the change in your “affiliation” mean you have come home?:extrahappy:
 
Im wondering for “Bible Alone” Christians, do they know that for example in John 6, when Jesus gives the bread discourse, the word eat has different connotations. It becomes more stressed from swallow to chew/gnaw?

Or do BA Christians turn a blind eye to it and believe in just the English translation?

MJ
 
Newsy said:
Isaiah 45,
Good questions!

Do I take the change in your “affiliation” mean you have come home?:extrahappy:
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😃 Thanks for your prayers brother!

Yes I have, our Lord is indeed Merciful :signofcross:

And I am a very hard headed man… :o
 
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Luvtosew said:
Paul did go and spend time with the Apostles and well heard first hand of their accounts I imagine , but God told him not to be afraid and go out to preach God told him what to preach. Is that what you mean?
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so I was curious you say you go to Bible study with your protestant friends and do you and them have a different take on some of the scriptures and if so what parts?**

You should read Acts 13…1 Now in the church at Antioch there were prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon called Niger, Lucius of Cyrene, Manaen (who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch) and Saul. 2 While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” 3 So after they had fasted and prayed, they placed their hands on them and sent them off.

Paul does not go out of his own…instead, the HS acts through others…and is ordained or laid hands on…then, and only then, does he become empowered by the HS…and goes on to his first missionary journey with Barnabas.

See the last verse…"sent them off’…they were sent, and did not act on their own.
 
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You should read Acts 13…1 Now in the church at Antioch there were prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon called Niger, Lucius of Cyrene, Manaen (who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch) and Saul. 2 While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” 3 So after they had fasted and prayed, they placed their hands on them and sent them off.

Paul does not go out of his own…instead, the HS acts through others…and is ordained or laid hands on…then, and only then, does he become empowered by the HS…and goes on to his first missionary journey with Barnabas.

See the last verse…"sent them off’…they were sent, and did not act on their own.**

I didn’t say Paul went out on his own.
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Isaiah45_9 said:
  1. I don’t think we need to imagine, it is documented in Acts.
  2. No. God instructed him to preach WITH the other members of His Church.
This is for another thread. But… Justification, Papal authority, Confession to a Priest, Intercessory prayers to the saints, to name a few.
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I was referring to this verse

New International Version (NIV)

9 One night the Lord spoke to Paul in a vision: “Do not be afraid; keep on speaking, do not be silent.

Of course Paul didn’t go alone.
 
MartinJordan said:
Im wondering for “Bible Alone” Christians, do they know that for example in John 6, when Jesus gives the bread discourse, the word eat has different connotations. It becomes more stressed from swallow to chew/gnaw?

Or do BA Christians turn a blind eye to it and believe in just the English translation?

MJ
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That has nothing to do with the last supper.
 
Isaiah45_9 said:
  1. I don’t think we need to imagine, it is documented in Acts.
  2. No. God instructed him to preach WITH the other members of His Church.
This is for another thread. But… Justification, Papal authority, Confession to a Priest, Intercessory prayers to the saints, to name a few.
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So these are your friends you said, do you stil respect them, do you think they are God loving Christians, do you think they have any chance at salvation? since they are bibe alone I take it.
Or do you think their lost and your trying to convert them?
 
I see this is a very touchy subject for many and many just are really down on bible alone or Prottestant churches period, I do understand its because some people on this message board have had first hand experience with some other churches apart from Catholic (RC whatever yous want to call it).

I guess for myself to of been born a Catholic, RC, and never strayed for over 50 years or attended another Church except for a wedding, and never started listening to Protestant speakers tilll about a few years ago, I don’t have that negative opinion and also most of my friends are Protestant, and now even a couple members of my family.

I find some of their sermons very enlightening, and have grown fond of listening to a few of them.

Also really beng here at CAF for a bit over a year,(I’m aware my sign in is earlier but I just came here to ask one quest. and that was it, but then came back a bit over a year ago to ask a few more questions, I never realized the issues between Catholics and Protestant, Bible alone, or even it seems Lutherns also, were so heated and that there was so much alienation against each other.

I actually came back here after hearing a couple tv preachers saying neg things about Catholics, and well I see Catholics feel the same way I have found since being here. Its almost sounds like a hatred sometimes.

I find this all very sad. I want to add I never hear this stuff on EWTN or ever in a homily (putting down Bible alone.) from Priests, so most of it must come from first hand experience.
 
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