"Bible Christian" Who does this better fit: Protestants or Catholics?

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Isa_Almisry said:
I get testy with those who mock the Lord.
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As do we all. 😉
Isa Almisry:
I will however apologize to you and others like you, because if I remember correctly, your posts have been respectful, though you differ in your opinions. You’ve just been caught in the crossfire.
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Thank you! 🙂
Isa Almisry:
I’ve seen Martin on several threads, and he doesn’t seem very good in taking his own medicine.
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Sometimes it’s hard to keep up with all the comments being thrown out there, especially when you’re outnumbered, like Martin was. I guess patience is key in understanding. :o
Isa Almisry:
Actually on a post some time back I did answer the OP: the Orthodox, because we have added nothing nor subtracted anything from the Faith as the Apostles handed it on.
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Thank you for explaining your faith to me. I must admit that when threads get lengthy, I don’t go back and read the beginning of them. :o
 
mrs_abbott said:
As do we all. 😉

Thank you! 🙂

Sometimes it’s hard to keep up with all the comments being thrown out there, especially when you’re outnumbered, like Martin was. I guess patience is key in understanding. :o

Thank you for explaining your faith to me. I must admit that when threads get lengthy, I don’t go back and read the beginning of them. :o
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No, thank you!🙂 🙂 🙂

yes, it’s a tangled web we weave.

But it is profitible. I went to Latin schools and have been around Latins all my life, yet it wasn’t until coming here that I understood the Latins idea of the IC. I still don’t believe it (The Orthodox don’t), but at least I have an idea of why the Latins do, and what are their thoughts on it.
 
Isa_Almisry said:
No, thank you!🙂 🙂 🙂

yes, it’s a tangled web we weave.

But it is profitable. I went to Latin schools and have been around Latins all my life, yet it wasn’t until coming here that I understood the Latins idea of the IC. I still don’t believe it (The Orthodox don’t), but at least I have an idea of why the Latins do, and what are their thoughts on it.
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We have discussed the difference in language and culture as possible sources of disagreement on other threads.[E.G. in the thread on “filioque”]
Along with that goes perspective.
We have our biases, views and attitudes and experience.

But we see things differently. The classic case is five blind people introduced to an elephant from a different angle.
in the case of the Immaculate Conception there are several things to consider.
Mary is to be the mother of God. Mary’s honor comes from her being the Theotokos the mother of God.
1-This means that she should be prepared to receive the creator. Using as a prototype we speak of the Ark of the covenant. The Ark was made of very special material. The ark was to hold the word of God the decalogue, the manna the bread from heaven. Those prefigured Jesus.
God is all powerful. He can do anything he wants. He is not limited to time and space nor biology. Thus the virgin birth of Jesus.

2-Why can’t God prepare his mother as pure and sinless from the start?

3- God naturally would honor his mother from the moment of creation. What better way to honor his mother that to redeem her first of all creation by not just removing the stain of ancestral sin but not allowing it in the first place.
God is love. Which shows more love? Rescuing someone after falling or keeping that person from falling?
This is just background i.e. Why it seems right and not just possible but fitting.
Could God have done it another way? of course.
 
GandalfTheWhite said:
Depends. One one hand it first Protestant for their believe in Sola Scriptura. On the other hand Catholics are the true bible Christians because their interpretation is guided by the authoritative teaching of the Church.

Of course I would only use it to refer to Protestants.
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Baptist interpretation is quided by the authoritative teaching of the Holy Spirit
 
allischalmers said:
Baptist interpretation is quided by the authoritative teaching of the Holy Spirit
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almost every protestant denomination claims this, please enlighten us andexplain further and plz explain why soo many protestants believe the samething and yet can’t come to an agreement
 
St_Violet said:
almost every protestant denomination claims this, please enlighten us andexplain further and plz explain why soo many protestants believe the samething and yet can’t come to an agreement
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That’s what happens when mere men/women try running things on their own. Just how hard is it for some people to understand, “the gates of Hades will NEVER prevail against it”???
 
St_Violet said:
almost every protestant denomination claims this, please enlighten us andexplain further and plz explain why soo many protestants believe the samething and yet can’t come to an agreement
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You all beat me to it.

I’ll just add: and why the protestant interpretation didn’t come along until 1500 years later. You’d think all those generations of our monks copying the scriptures so they would be ready in 1517 would have gotten a clue what they were copying.

I’d also want to know the authoritative teaching of the Holy Spirit on Acts 8:31
 
brosam said:
Praying to the dead.

Purgatory.

The sinlessness of Mary.

Ex ecclesia nulla salas.

Indulgences.

the list could go on for days.
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All things that have been backed up by scripture numerous times on this board, and by many apologists. Do a search.
 
donnyblake said:
Catholics do have Sunday School for kids. They also get catechized starting at a young age. Also, Catholics hear/read nearly the whole Bible by simply attending Mass over the course of a 3-year period.
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Not all Catholic churches, I don’t think. I’ve never heard of it at any of the churches I’ve attended in all my 30-some years. Also, you hear the entire bible, but there is not much study of scripture (in my experiences, not trying to say everyone’s experiences are the same). I have never seen much bible study for children…especially little ones.

Evangelicals, on the other hand, start VERY YOUNG! Even though we’re Catholic, I send my children to an evangelical program because there is no such thing at our church. They start at age 2. My children know scripture inside and out…more than I do! And it’s not just rote memorization, either. It’s real understanding. It’s beautiful.

I would start something similar in the Catholic church, but I was told it was “too protestant” and wouldn’t be allowed. 😦
 
brosam said:
And refuted many more times.

Go ahead and give me your best Biblical defense for these heretical teachings.
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Why should I do your research for you?

And if the refutation you are referring to are those laughable things on items such as Chick Tracts, you’ll have to do better than that.
 
PatienceAndLove said:
Why should I do your research for you?
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You shouldn’t. However, if you’re going to claim that they’re Biblical, you should show where it’s found in scripture.
And if the refutation you are referring to are those laughable things on items such as Chick Tracts, you’ll have to do better than that.
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No, actually what I’m referring to is going through the scriptures, verse by verse and dismantling these Unbiblical beliefs.
 
You presuppose that one must follow the bible to exclusion when no where therein is that the case.
 
brosam said:
Praying to the dead.

Purgatory.

The sinlessness of Mary.

Ex ecclesia nulla salas.

Indulgences.

the list could go on for days.
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Gosh, for a Bible teacher, your understanding of the Bible seems rather limited. If you pray to the Holy Spirit for wisdom, and sincerely mean it, you too can discover the truths in the Holy Catholic Church. That’s what I did. I have a lot of Protest-ant friends who say similar things that you say. I realized (with God’s help) there is only ONE truth. One true Faith. One True Church. I set out to find it. The Lord led me home to Rome.

Peace,
 
brosam said:
Praying to the dead.

Purgatory. 2nd Macabees (which was removed because it was at odds with Protestant belief!)

The sinlessness of Mary. Where does it say in the Bible that she was sinful?

Ex ecclesia nulla salas. Does not say what you think it says. It says that we have the fullness of truth passed directly from Jesus, not that others don’t have some, or even most of the truth.

Indulgences. Again, how does this go against the bible?

the list could go on for days.
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So far, you’re batting .000.
 
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