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fisherman_carl
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Which Catholic bible version is better, the NAB or The Revised Standard Version? Or do you have another recommendation?
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fisherman_carl
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Specifically I mean the RSV-CE (Ignatius) version.
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Jotobo
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I have both.
Both are good. I am in favor of the RSV myself. There really isnt a reason why.
My recommendation: buy them both =)
Both are good. I am in favor of the RSV myself. There really isnt a reason why.
My recommendation: buy them both =)
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Bob4BVM
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The D-R is good too for a traditional perspective.
Welcome to the Faith, Jotobo.
Merry Christmas !
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diggerdomer
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All Catholic Bibles are good. Find the one you like.
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Melkite_Sword
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Not all… watch out for the extreme liberal commentaries. The Christian Community Bible is riddled with liberalism, its a Catholic Bible, the Commentary on Daniel states that it is ‘written fiction’ and the prophet himself never existed. it goes so far as to call whole verses of scripture ‘ridiculous’.
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diggerdomer
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So you’re saying that some Catholic Bible, i.e. those approved by the Church, are not acceptable?
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William1964
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Goodness!!! I can hardly believe this. This is heresy is it not?
I like the DR myself. Tan has put out a wonderful version of it with our Lord’s words in red.
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Jotobo
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NAB - very easy to read, nice flow, good footnotes, lots of “extras”, used in the liturgy
RSV - essentially revised from the KJV so it has a very elegant style, some footnotes, used in the Catechism
Douay Rheims - its like the Catholic King James to put it simply, except it was written before it
I would get both the NAB St. Joseph edition and the RSV 2nd Catholic Edition.
My NAB was $30 and the RSV was $20.
www.ignatius.com
RSV - essentially revised from the KJV so it has a very elegant style, some footnotes, used in the Catechism
Douay Rheims - its like the Catholic King James to put it simply, except it was written before it
I would get both the NAB St. Joseph edition and the RSV 2nd Catholic Edition.
My NAB was $30 and the RSV was $20.
www.ignatius.com
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Jesus_123
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- :bible1: The Holy Bible (Douay Rheims Version [Douai-Rheims], Revised by Bishop Richard Challoner) is a wonderful translation . . .
Pope Pius XII stated that the
Holy :bible1: Bible
Douay Rheims Version
was **
*“free from any error whatsoever in matters of faith and morals.” ***
With **St. Jerome **. . . **who as well as being a SAINT is a HOLY DOCTOR of the Catholic Church . . . and . . . ** the Vicar of Christ’s (this Pope’s) declaration of support . . . you can’t go wrong with this edition . . .
Below are quotes from the Eternal Word Television Network’s (EWTN’s) website regarding several Biblical translations . . .
:bible1: Douai-Rheims.[Douay-Rheims] The original Catholic Bible in English, pre-dating the King James Version (1611). It was translated from the Latin Vulgate, the Church’s official Scripture text, by English Catholics in exile on the continent. The NT was completed and published in 1582 when the English College (the seminary for English Catholics) was located at Rheims. The Old Testament was published in 1610 when the College was located at Douai. Bishop Challoner’s 1750 edition … is the most common edition. …
The 1899 edition is available from TAN Books. … ******
The 1899 edition is available from TAN Books. … ******
**The renown teaching priest Father John Corapi ** endorses and highly recommends the **ORIGINAL Revised Standard Version-Catholic Edition ** of Sacred :bible1: Scripture as his favored modern English translation . . . and used in tandem with the Douay Rhiems the full richness of Scripture is amplified considerably for our modern day understanding and it functions beautifully as a handbook for understanding and clarifying the Douay Rhiems translation . . . please note that this is the ORIGINAL Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition (RSV-CE) . . .
:bible1: Revised Standard Version (RSV) - Catholic Edition. Translated for an American audience from the original languages in the 1940s and 1950s by the National Council of the Churches of Christ, and adapted for Catholic use by the Catholic Biblical Association (1966). Considered the best combination of literal (formal equivalence translation) and literary by many orthodox Catholic scholars.
Published today by Ignatius Press (Ignatius Bible) and Scepter Press, and available through EWTN’s Religious Catalogue. ******
Published today by Ignatius Press (Ignatius Bible) and Scepter Press, and available through EWTN’s Religious Catalogue. ******
The enemy of souls most unholy spirit has used the grave and disordered error of “inclusive language” (stripping God the Holy Spirit’s designated use of masculine and feminine words from text re God and mankind and neutering them) to make serious inroads in corrupting that which the **God the Holy Spirit **has entrusted to the Christ’s Most Holy Apostolic Roman Catholic Church . . . When purchasing a Revised Standard Version-Catholic Edition be very careful to request the trustworthy **ORIGINAL RSV-CE **. . . the newest untrustworthy version which is being heavily promoted nowadays contains real errors . . . the NAB version has a similar problem . . .
New Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition (1989). An adaptation for Catholic use of the NRSV of the National Council of the Churches of Christ. Although used in the American edition of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, it was rejected for liturgical use by the Holy See owing to inclusive language … ******
NAB with Revised Psalms and Revised New Testament (1991). It was **due to the use of vertical inclusive language **(re: God and Christ) and some uses of horizontal inclusive language (re: human beings), that the Holy See rejected this text as the basis of a revised Lectionary for the United States. This is the version of the NAB currently on sale in the United States. ******
. . . all for Jesus+
St. Jerome please pray for us+
thank You Lord for Thy Wonderful Holy Word+
St. Jerome please pray for us+
thank You Lord for Thy Wonderful Holy Word+
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arcee
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Try sample reading the Navarre Bible in a bookstore (Catholic of course), and see if you like it. The different books are sold separately, ie. one book for St. John’s Gospel and one of St. Matthew. I have this version for my bible study.
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fisherman_carl
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Thanks for all your replies. I ordered the RSV (Ignatius -2nd edition) to go along with the Ignatius study bibles. My blackberry already has the NAB as well as some other versions. You can get it from olivetree.com/. I wish they had the RSV on blackberry. They currently have the NRSV.
My choices came down to the RSV original and second edition. I chose the 2nd edition despite some peoples concerns about changes between the two. I have read a lot of good reviews about both versions but the 2nd is the version the Ignatius bible studies use.
UPDATE: I just noticed they have the RSV for blackberry now.
My choices came down to the RSV original and second edition. I chose the 2nd edition despite some peoples concerns about changes between the two. I have read a lot of good reviews about both versions but the 2nd is the version the Ignatius bible studies use.
UPDATE: I just noticed they have the RSV for blackberry now.
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bauerice
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The RSV-2CE is my favorite. I do read the NAB (1970 edition) as well as the Jerusalem Bible. The D-R (as well as KJV) is just to hard for me to follow.
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diggerdomer
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The Vatican approved the NAB version submitted by the USCCB for use in the Lectionary in the U.S.
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Jesus_123
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The NAB version available on sale today in the United States is not the same as the one used in the Lectionaries . . below is further information quoted from the EWTN.com website on the **Lectionary NAB version **in use today . . . *******(the original 1970 version of the NAB is no longer in use and has been widely criticized because of the many radical and disturbing changes made in centuries old familiar traditional phrases such as “full of grace”) . . . *
. . . :coffeeread: . . .
Liturgical Use in United States
There is only one English text currently approved by the Church for use in the United States. This text is the one contained in the Lectionaries approved for Sundays & Feasts and for Weekdays by the USCCB and recognized by the Holy See. These Lectionaries have their American and Roman approval documents in the front. The text is that of the New American Bible with revised Psalms and New Testament (1988, 1991), with some changes mandated by the Holy See where the NAB text used … vertical inclusive language (e.g. avoiding male pronouns for God).
There is only one English text currently approved by the Church for use in the United States. This text is the one contained in the Lectionaries approved for Sundays & Feasts and for Weekdays by the USCCB and recognized by the Holy See. These Lectionaries have their American and Roman approval documents in the front. The text is that of the New American Bible with revised Psalms and New Testament (1988, 1991), with some changes mandated by the Holy See where the NAB text used … vertical inclusive language (e.g. avoiding male pronouns for God).
EWTN further clarifies this **Lectionary version **of the NAB in the quote below . . .
. . . :coffeeread: . . .
4. CDFNORMS – 7/28/1998 4:10:42 PM – VIEW
CDF - Norms for the Translation of Biblical Texts for Use in the Liturgy
In 1995 the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued “secret norms” to the National Conference of Catholic Bishops (of the United States) to guide their revision of the Lectionary used at Mass. Prior to this time the Congregation had rejected two versions of Scripture (the New Revised Standard Version and the Revised New American Bible) for use in the Liturgy, owing to the unacceptable use of inclusive language. These norms remained “secret,” even from most bishops, until just prior to the June 1997 meeting of the bishops’ conference. This meeting approved, by subsequent mail ballot, a version of the Lectionary agreed upon by a working committee of Vatican officials and US bishops in March 1997. This Lectionary conforms to the previously issued Norms. … LITURGY LECTIONARY INCLUSIVE NAB CURIA Code=EE]
Link: ewtn.com/vlibrary/search2.asp
CDF - Norms for the Translation of Biblical Texts for Use in the Liturgy
In 1995 the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued “secret norms” to the National Conference of Catholic Bishops (of the United States) to guide their revision of the Lectionary used at Mass. Prior to this time the Congregation had rejected two versions of Scripture (the New Revised Standard Version and the Revised New American Bible) for use in the Liturgy, owing to the unacceptable use of inclusive language. These norms remained “secret,” even from most bishops, until just prior to the June 1997 meeting of the bishops’ conference. This meeting approved, by subsequent mail ballot, a version of the Lectionary agreed upon by a working committee of Vatican officials and US bishops in March 1997. This Lectionary conforms to the previously issued Norms. … LITURGY LECTIONARY INCLUSIVE NAB CURIA Code=EE]
Link: ewtn.com/vlibrary/search2.asp
arcee . . . Mother Angelica, Father Mitch Pacwa and Father John Corapi all agree with you and wax enthusiastic about the **Navarre Bible **and the wonderful Catholic commentaries it contains . . . the expense for the set is a bit painful for the budget however . . .
+Mother Angelica of worldwide EWTN fame loved and used the . . . **1966 New Jerusalem :bible1: Bible ** . . . in her teaching . . . but frequently sounded serious warnings about the . . . loss of Sacred Truth (Holy Thoughts of God) . . . via the unholy use of . . . “inclusive language” . . . incorporated into all this Bible’s versions thereafter and could only recommend the 1966 version.
. . . all for Jesus+
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bauerice
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She used the 1966 Jerusalem Bible not the New Jerusalem Bible. That (NJB) came out in 1985.
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Jesus_123
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Thanks bauerice . . . I appreciate your sharing and you’re absolutely right . . . all the “new” and “revised”, etc. versions get very confusing . . . I’ve actually never even seen the Jerusalem Bible . . . only heard it mentioned and taught by Mother Angelica . . .
. . . all for Jesus+
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diggerdomer
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Yes, I understand that certain limited adaptations were made to the NAB in authoring the Roman Catholic Lectionary. Still, the NAB is the basic translation used, not any other.
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