Biblical Reference to the Rapture

  • Thread starter Thread starter PatienceAndLove
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Tietjen said:
The concept of “the Rapture” didn’t exist prior to the 19th century. It gained momentum in the 1960s and/or 70’s through the famous Hal Lindsey book, The Late Great Planet Earth. Then the Left Behind movies and books came out and interest grew some more.

As for myself… I don’t put much stock in cultish type fear-based religious garbage. I leave that to the fiction writers and Hollywood. 😉
Click to expand...
I do not see the word “rapture” in the Bible, but I do see the “taken away” in 1 Cor 15:51-52, and also in 1Thes 4:16-17, and this scripture, by the way, was written long before the 19th century. Blessings.
 
paul_c said:
you are right about that. Not judging you of course. But Jesus said that on the last day he would return in a cloud as he left. He didn’t say anything about people being caught away in a rapture before the end times. That is a modern view that is seemingly without merit.
Click to expand...
My friend, you make my case, you confuse the 2nd coming with the rapture. These are two separate events. The 2nd coming is the Lord’s return to earth to rule and reign over Israel and the nations for 1,000 years, while the rapture is the “catching up” of the Body of Christ. My Lord does not return to earth at the rapture, but He does at the 2nd coming.
Grace and Peace,
QC
 
John’s Revelation is open to many whacky interpretations. Perhaps reading entrails and tea leaves is just as valid an interpretation of the end times. What about the Mayan “prediction” that the end will occur on Dec 21, 2012
 
QuickCat said:
My friend, you make my case, you confuse the 2nd coming with the rapture. These are two separate events. The 2nd coming is the Lord’s return to earth to rule and reign over Israel and the nations for 1,000 years, while the rapture is the “catching up” of the Body of Christ. My Lord does not return to earth at the rapture, but He does at the 2nd coming.
Grace and Peace,
QC
Click to expand...
How many “last days” are there?
 
Tietjen said:
The concept of “the Rapture” didn’t exist prior to the 19th century. It gained momentum in the 1960s and/or 70’s through the famous Hal Lindsey book, The Late Great Planet Earth. Then the Left Behind movies and books came out and interest grew some more.

As for myself… I don’t put much stock in cultish type fear-based religious garbage. I leave that to the fiction writers and Hollywood. 😉
Click to expand...
I once watch a DVD where several apologist were talking about rapture and every one of them including a priest were saying that the words " some were taken taken and some were were left behind" means that those that were taken are the ones that are taken for judgement and the ones left behind are the ones that goes to heaven.

Based on the movie and the book, what I understood was that, they got the meaning the other way around.
 
Vince1022 said:
Where does that idea come from?
Click to expand...
For starters, here is a OT and NT reference…

**Zechariah 14:9-
The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name.

Revelation 20:4
…They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Revelation 20:5
…The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.**
 
Lev23 said:
For starters, here is a OT and NT reference…

**Zechariah 14:9-
The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name.

Revelation 20:4
…They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Revelation 20:5
…The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.**
Click to expand...
Are biblical time periods literal?
 
Cat_Herder said:
Are biblical time periods literal?
Click to expand...
Yes they are. The cherry on top of the Jerusalem Jews unbelief of Jesus as the Messiah was their missing the prophesied time Christ was coming to them.

Read Luke 19:28-44.

Luke 19:44
…They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God’s coming to you.”
 
Cat_Herder said:
[BIBLEDRB]Daniel 9:24[/BIBLEDRB]

It does not say what happens to the “Israelites” themselves.
Click to expand...
Yes it does. For your benefit, here it is…

Daniel 9:24-
“Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

"…for your people…"

Romans 11:25-27
I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
 
Lev23 said:
Yes it does. For your benefit, here it is…

Daniel 9:24-
“Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

"…for your people…"
Click to expand...
What happens during those ‘sevens’?
 
Cat_Herder said:
What happens during those ‘sevens’?
Click to expand...
The amillennialist has to say “what happened” during those 7 years. Usually they say the seven years happened at the Roman takedown of the Temple and Jerusalem. This is where their bible interpretation varies and is inconsistent.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top