Biden Pledges to Gut Religious Freedom Protections, Saying They Give 'Hate' a 'Safe Harbor'

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Clearly transgenders are not mentally sound to serve in the military.
 
upant said:
the attempted Utah bill to break the seal of the confessional etc
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That happened here and had nought to do with politics.
upant said:
You don’t have google? Check the hospital lawsuits,
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Perhaps you could link an example as requested.
Annie said:
You may be able to understand why I did not understand what you wanted…

James Scurlock
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The link is about police shootings rather then the original issue. Care to explain further because that link does not make it clear to me.
 
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umamibella said:
The link is about police shootings rather then the original issue. Care to explain further because that link does not make it clear to me.
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The link leads me to the article I posted, which is about James Scurlock and not about police shootings. I have no idea how to fix the problem you are having. I found the article by running a search on the name.

Last time someone explained what happened, you [seem to have?] wanted a link, despite their very complete summary of events, so I see no reason to repeat what has been posted about the issue.
 
Annie said:
The link leads me to the article I posted, which is about James Scurlock and not about police shootings. I have no idea how to fix the problem you are having. I found the article by running a search on the name.

Last time someone explained what happened, you [seem to have?] wanted a link, despite their very complete summary of events, so I see no reason to repeat what has been posted about the issue.
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Your link leads to a story about a white man shooting a black man, during the civil unrest in May. following the George Floyd incident and the growing police shooting / brutality protests

I am asking how it is related to the showering issue that another poster brought up. Or how it relates at all to this thread with its title :

Biden Pledges to Gut Religious Freedom Protections, Saying They Give ‘Hate’ a ‘Safe Harbor’​

White Nebraska business owner charged with manslaughter in May shooting of James Scurlock, a Black protester​

Thats the title of your news article
 
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A poster explained the entire story. You said a bunch of mysterious stuff that didn’t make much sense, then explained that you wanted a link to the stories the poster had mentioned. One had already been referenced by a link; I gave a link to the other.

That is the extent of my involvement with this. If you have a problem with using the event as an example, you should have skipped needing a link and gone directly to posing this question to the poster who brought it up.
 
Annie said:
You said a bunch of mysterious stuff that didn’t make much sense,
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I dont mind people asking if what I say is confusing. Thats why I keep asking, because I want to be sure I fully understand. Unfortunately questions about what a post means can be taken as hostile content.
I still really have no idea how the two are linked and would enjoy an explanation.
There has not been, nor is there now, any hostility meant
Annie said:
directly to posing this question to the poster who brought it up.
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Did that, a few times, without success.
 
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The Democratic party historically has been connected to the Ku Klux Klan fairly heavily, they have had their desk at the Democratic convention in the past, they have had their own brand of anti-Catholicism:


And again:


The Democrat party has veered into supporting infanticide.

If one is going to listen to this anti-Trumpism, perhaps one should also owe up to the rest too.

GOP doesn’t support abortion, so this being anti-Trump should at least have all the facts on the table.


Otherwise, this all seems to be a bit menacing from someone not even in this country.

Support the Dems, support these other things. This is kind of tiring.

Trump does not support this.

We should not have this kind of skewed information floating around by someone who may not know better
 
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There are a ton of these stories from Canada. Women in a homeless shelter having to share a room with a biological male.
The third story details how a man, Christopher Hambrook, claiming to be transgender sexually assaulted two women while living at a women’s shelter. Is this what Biden wants?



 
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@umamibella, a bit of a difference

Here is hard to google when you don’t know where here is
 
27lw said:
Is this what Biden wants?
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Yes. Joe Biden wants a collapse of society where nothing has meaning anymore. Men and women, marriage, abortion, destroying religion, it is all an attempt to throw our society into chaos. Within that chaos they can and will institute communism.
 
upant said:
Here is hard to google when you don’t know where here is
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Surely everyone knows my nationality by now. For those who dont, I am Australian, an ocker.
27lw said:
There are a ton of these stories from Canada.
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USA elections and outcomes have no bearing on whats up in Canada and religious freedoms. Biden cannot ‘gut’ Canadian issues, nor can Trump.
I am sure Trudeau would have something to say about that.
 
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Daniel27 said:
I’m not American, so my question might sound almost naive, but what is the status of Catholic schools currently in the USA? Are they all private schools that one has to pay for? Does being a private vs public school have any bearing on these proposed laws?
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mercyalways said:
Hi, ,unlike most democracies, the US provides no money to religious schools. This was based on anti Catholic sentiment back in the 1800s, when the Blaine amendments were passed in most states, making it illegal to give money to private schools.
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A little background here: The Catholic Parochial School system got its start in New York. The public schools would use the Bible as a text, especially since most families had at least one bible so it was one less textbook the students needed to buy. A controversy soon arose because the Catholic students were bringing Catholic bibles (usually Douay-Rhomes, since that was the closest to the King James Version [KJV] used in the schools), but the Protestant teachers wouldn’t let them study from that because KJV was the only approved version. In effect, Catholic students attending publicly-funded schools were being denied an education because they wanted to use Catholic materials instead of Protestant ones. This lead to parishes forming their own school systems. Since these parishioners were using their own money to run these private schools at the same time they were paying taxes to support the public schools, these people (usually, but not always, Catholic) started agitating for some kind of support from the State since they were teaching students that the state would otherwise be responsible for.

In 1875, Congressman James Blaine proposed an amendment to the US Constitution to expressly prohibit public taxes to be given to sectarian school systems. This was to enforce the “separation of church and state.” It passed by a vote of 180 to 7 in the House of Representatives, but failed by four votes to achieve the necessary two-thirds vote in the United States Senate. Later, 37 states adopted Blaine Amendments in their own constitutions.

A ruling by the US Supreme Court in June of this year forced Montana to modify the provisions of its Blaine Amendment. Montana was offering public tax-credit scholarship money to students that could be used in either public or private schools, but not if the schools were religious. The Supreme Court ruled this was a violation of the Free Exercise of Religion clause of the 1st Amendment.

To answer Daniel27’s question, private vs. public schooling does not have any bearing on these proposed laws. If the state were allowed to permit a religious school to enforce separation of students based on biological gender, then the state would be permitting discrimination, even if the tenets of that faith REQUIRED such separation. IOW, any religious exemption for any of these perceived acts of discrimination is allowing that discrimination to exist in defiance of the law.
 
I bring up Canada because it’s liberal in many ways and I’m sure a model for how Democrats in the USA would like certain things to be run.
 
twf said:
Do you know if Biden wins, concentration camps will be set up in Alaska and EVERY single Catholic who voted for Trump will be hauled up there in the night and shot on site? Yep. True story. Heard it on InfoWars.

…that’s how some of this stuff is coming across. I think both sides of this political debate are prone to a little hyperbole.
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That is completely unfair to the OP who is quoting something Biden actually said.
 
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