Bioextinction Workshop, Report One

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The Bioextinction Workshop, sponsored by the Pontifical Academy for the Social Sciences, is being held in Rome. But it was decided late last week that the event will not be open to the public or the press. Still Robert Royal expects to be able to publish news of the event. Here is a link to his Bioextinction Workshop, Report One. Personally, I find it ironic that a workshop intent on reducing the human race is being held in Europe where the most serious threat of extinction is unstoppable demographic decline.

Bioextinction Workshop, Report One.
 
The article linked above is a news report from Robert Royal. I came across an article in First Things about two participants in the conference:

“In a recent article at Crux, I argued that invitations by the Pontifical Academies to Paul Erhlich and John Bongaarts amount to formal cooperation in serious evil and cause grave scandal. The Academies have asked Ehrlich and Bongaarts to speak on the topic of overpopulation at sessions of an upcoming international conference on the extinction of species. Both Ehrlich and Bongaarts advocate abortion and contraception as methods of population control—views that should disqualify them from any discussion of this topic conducted under the auspices of the Catholic Church.”
firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2017/02/the-pontifical-academies-mess-of-pottage
 
Great articles. Thank you!

If the organisers of this sort of thing had faith in God, rather than in half-baked highly suspect/flawed man-sourced ideas, we’d be far better off.

The major source of problems in this world is*** SIN, SIN AND MORE SIN*** in all of its demonically driven forms. Every time we sin, we damage ourselves, others and Nature itself.
Unless this truth is acknowledged (not likely), tackling real or imagined “natural” threats is largely a waste of time.
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Comparing the number of diseased-water deaths with the number of abortion deaths illustrates the magnitude of abortion.
Stop committing those appalling sins, and “environmental” problems (real and imagined) would be pretty well fixed.

In the eyes of level-headed non-politically correct scientists, the Church will end up looking foolish, lacking credibility.
 
PASS Official Website

Out of interest on certain subjects, I have read a few Addresses of Popes St John Paul II and Benedict XVI (which can be found under the Magisterium heading) and found them informative.

Some of the academics and intellectuals that have participated over the years may be surprising to many Catholics; but one cannot claim the Church is not open to drawing something good - even from one adamantly opposed to Catholicism. Pope Benedict XVI seemed the most suited for such challenging efforts.

More info:
The Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences has the aim of promoting the study and progress of the social, economic, political and juridical sciences, offering the Church the elements which she can use in the study and development of her social doctrine. The Academy also reflects on the application of that doctrine in contemporary society.
Title I - Constitution and Aims
Art. 1
The Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences was established by the Holy Father John Paul II on 1 January 1994 (AAS 86 [1994], 213), with the aim of promoting the study and progress of the social sciences, primarily economics, sociology, law and political science. The Academy, through an appropriate dialogue, thus offers the Church the elements which she can use in the development of her social doctrine, and reflects on the application of that doctrine in contemporary society. The Academy, which is autonomous, maintains a close relationship with the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace.
Art. 2
To achieve its aims the Academy:
  • organizes congresses and study days on specific themes;
  • promotes scientific surveys and research;
  • helps and assists institutions and private individuals to execute them; - publishes the results of its own consultations;
  • issues publications of a scientific nature
 
youtube.com/watch?v=vZVOU5bfHrM

The myth of overpopulation.
Inviting Paul Erhlich to the Vatican Bioextinction Workshop :mad:

Notice in the myth overpopulation video…Paul Erhlich’s association with the unfpa.org

This connection …UN with Vatican turns my stomach.
 
I don’t know why some want the environment (God’s creation, which He pronounced “good”) to be destroyed so as to kill off a large portion of people, who depend on a healthy environment, but the thought has started to occur to me that perhaps for some it may be sadism - pleasure in others’ sufferings. Like the way some are perhaps getting pleasure from seeing children ripped from their mothers and fathers being deported, the crying, the pain and suffering.

Then I think of ISIS and Nazi Germany, the way some get pleasure out of genocide.

I’m just trying to understand why people would want to watch, much less participate in this 6th great extinction event, except maybe they get some thrill from it.

Or it could be thanatos (a death wish), or some hidden, maybe subconscious hostility toward one’s children and progeny (which is a theme in some ancient literature and folklore).

Since it is the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, maybe they will be looking into this human motivation for harming and killing off life on planet earth.

They say that animals can’t go to Heaven, but I’m thinking the real point is that animals, unlike humans, cannot go to Hell. Maybe that’s why the Church is interested in why so many people are death-driven with such a strong will to kill. It’s not just lives that are at stake in this human-caused 6th great extinction, but souls.

Maybe if we can understand the motives, maybe we can get people to stopping harming life on earth and themselves.
 
This Elitist pogrom of extermination of “Undesirables” and control of the lesser classes goes back to Margaret Sanger, Marie Stopes, Thomas Robert Malthus. Secular, Godless haters all.

catholicworldreport.com/Item/5449/the_true_story_behind_the_marie_stopes_eugenics_trial_of_1923.aspx

washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/5/grossu-margaret-sanger-eugenicist/

newadvent.org/cathen/12276a.htm
Thanks for the good articles. The one by Mark Sutherland was very interesting and eye opening.

Has anyone ever noticed that the names on the unfpa.org/about-us executive board aren’t listed on the website. I’d like to know the names of those board members and where they are from.
 
This Elitist pogrom of extermination of “Undesirables” and control of the lesser classes goes back to Margaret Sanger, Marie Stopes, Thomas Robert Malthus. Secular, Godless haters all.

catholicworldreport.com/Item/5449/the_true_story_behind_the_marie_stopes_eugenics_trial_of_1923.aspx

washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/5/grossu-margaret-sanger-eugenicist/

newadvent.org/cathen/12276a.htm
So the undesirables here are poor of the earth and the future generations, who are and will be suffering and dying the most from climate change and other serious environmental problems.

Maybe they aren’t so much undesirable, as lacking in salience for self-oriented types of people.

Another important motive, aside from sadism, is pure selfishness, self-centeredness, which also makes it very difficult for people to understand that they too are dependent on a healthy, thriving environment (God’s creation, which he created 1st, so as to help us live). They have socially constructed the environment to be wild (read “useless” species) in wilderness (useless) places, and fail to understand it is the air we breathe, the water we drink, the food we eat, the chemicals that permeate our skin, climate in which we grow our crops, the materials with which we make our products and build our buildings. Harm, pollute, and destroy those and we harm not only the “undesirables,” but ourselves as well.

“For this is what the Lord said, who created the heavens, who is God, who formed the earth and made it, who established it, who didn’t create it a wasteland but formed it as a habitation: I, the Lord, and none other!” - Isaiah 45:18.

There is a culture dimension, as well. Enlightenment thinking that we humans are monads, independent of others and of all else – which the social sciences and environmental sciences since then have proven wrong. But people continue to cling to those ideas, especially Americans, since the US was born in the Enlightenment and is perhaps its strongest adherent. (BTW, the Enlightenment was against the Church and Church teachings.)
 
There is a culture dimension, as well. **Enlightenment thinking that we humans are monads, independent of others and of all else **-- which the social sciences and environmental sciences since then have proven wrong. But people continue to cling to those ideas, especially Americans, since the US was born in the Enlightenment and is perhaps its strongest adherent. (BTW, the Enlightenment was against the Church and Church teachings.)
USA tends to be a ‘pod’ mentality culture. I see pod mentality even in popular merchandise and services.
One time use items
Coffee pods because no one has time to share a whole pot of coffee with others
Drive-up fast food restaurants because people are too busy to sit down and eat with family and friends
Single serve food items
Look at the number of peopler per vehicle commuting to work.

youtube.com/watch?v=fcThSfPRS3o Jerry Seinfeld - You are not normal
 
The article linked above is a news report from Robert Royal…
I wouldn’t trust anything by Robert Royal. He is with the Acton Institute, which is funded in part by Exxon and Koch. He is part of the climate change denialist industry out to besmirch environmentalists like me, spread lies that CC is a hoax, and dissuade people from mitigating CC.

At the least he doesn’t really know about environmental issues enough to speak about them. At the worst he just doesn’t care about life on planet earth.

If you want to understand environmental issues from a Catholic perspective, you can read what the popes and bishops have to say:

Pope John Paul II, “Peace With All Creation,” 1990
vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/messages/peace/documents/hf_jp-ii_mes_19891208_xxiii-world-day-for-peace_en.html

Pope Benedict XVI, “If You Want to Cultivate Peace, Protect Creation,” 2010, vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/messages/peace/documents/hf_ben-xvi_mes_20091208_xliii-world-day-peace_en.html

U.S. Bishops, 2001, “Global Climate Change: A Plea for Dialogue, Prudence, and the Common Good,” U.S. Conf. of Catholic Bishops, usccb.org/sdwp/international/globalclimate.shtml

Pope Francis, 2015 “Laudato Si,” w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/encyclicals/documents/papa-francesco_20150524_enciclica-laudato-si.html
 
RE the population issue, as rightly noted above, populations around the world have been stabilizing, some even declining. Real environmentalists are not much into the population issue; what motivates the vast majority of them is the desire to save the earth for future generations. They would find it contradictory to kill children in order to save the earth for the children.

The supposed “environmentalists” who talk about the population problem are mainly fake environmentalists who do not want to take personal responsibility for doing their part, but want to blame environmental problems on other people and their children. The idea of “population control” is also a red herring that anti-environmentalists bring up because they, too, don’t want to take personal responsibility for doing their part to help save the environment (and people’s lives)–they just want to deny there are any serious environmental problems.

Malthus’s “population bomb” theory was long ago replaced by the “demographic transition theory,” which notes that populations stabilize once a society develops and the death rate goes down. Here is a video that will help in understanding this: youtube.com/watch?v=FACK2knC08E

I taught Environmental Studies before my retirement and used THE textbook most highly recommended by experts in the field – “Humans in the Landscape” by K. N. Lee, W. R. Freudenburg, & R. B. Howarth.

It’s middle chapters address the “grand environmental challenges” (things we most need to address and solve problems for) and population is NOT one of them. They do say population is a challenge (re ensuring enough food and resources for everyone on into the future), but it is not a grand challenge.

They bring in the demographic transition theory and give evidence for it occurring. IOW, population is stabilizing and will level off within this century. People themselves are opting for smaller families as they are pulling out of dire poverty and their children are surviving into adulthood.

As for the grand challenges which we must address if we want all the world’s population to survive and thrive on into the future are (note that the PASS conference is about #3, not population control):

[1]Climate change
[2]Urbanization (which is accelerating) – providing habitable, healthy, productive cities with a sustainable 2nd nature (human constructed nature, infrastructure, market economy) & low environmental impact on 1st nature hinterlands (natural world)
[3]Conserving biodiversity – for our own survival; and it is an ethical duty – most religions (including Catholicism) recognize that.
[4]Sustainable development – creating governing institutions for a sustainable planet both locally & globally, so that people around the world and long into the future can survive and thrive.

The point is there is no need for drastic population control measures (as China has). We are better off putting our efforts into helping poor countries develop and help their children survive into adulthood; people will then of their own accord begin to have smaller (and healthier) families. Anyone who says we need drastic population control measures is NOT an expert in the area of population & demography.

I’m thinking if Paul Ehrlich is at the conference it is probably in his capacity as a conservation biologist, and not as a demographer (which he is not). Same with E. O Wilson. Those two are not actually social scientists or demographers, but biologists.

I think a prudent course for us is to do our part in doing what we can in our daily lives to help the environment, so as to help ensure healthy lives for all well into the future. And not be swayed either by fake environmentalists spewing population bomb nonsense OR anti-environmentalists telling us there are no environmental problems to address.
 
“The Pontifical Academy for Science distanced itself from population control theories at the end of a controversial conference about biological extinction featuring renown[ed?] population control advocates.”
More like notorious population control advocates!😦

i wish some of these “rescuers of Planet Earth” would shut up!
 
Great articles. Thank you!

If the organisers of this sort of thing had faith in God, rather than in half-baked highly suspect/flawed man-sourced ideas, we’d be far better off.

The major source of problems in this world is*** SIN, SIN AND MORE SIN*** in all of its demonically driven forms. Every time we sin, we damage ourselves, others and Nature itself.
Unless this truth is acknowledged (not likely), tackling real or imagined “natural” threats is largely a waste of time.
.
Comparing the number of diseased-water deaths with the number of abortion deaths illustrates the magnitude of abortion.
Stop committing those appalling sins, and “environmental” problems (real and imagined) would be pretty well fixed.

In the eyes of level-headed non-politically correct scientists, the Church will end up looking foolish, lacking credibility.
No it’s not.

“Inequality is the root of social evil.”

“The most serious of the evils that afflict the world these days are youth unemployment and the loneliness of the old.”
 
No it’s not.
Yes it is! (See below).
“Inequality is the root of social evil.”
SIN is the root of all evil, including social evil.
If you no longer believe in the existence of sin, or its consequences, your Religion description is out of date.

PS
Are those quotes courtesy of Emma Bonino? Not that it matters, she’s hardly a person to hold in high regard!
 
Yes it is! (See below).

SIN is the root of all evil, including social evil.
If you no longer believe in the existence of sin, or its consequences, your Religion description is out of date.

PS
Are those quotes courtesy of Emma Bonino? Not that it matters, she’s hardly a person to hold in high regard!
No, Pope Francis said them.
 
No, Pope Francis said them.
i was aware that he said “…one of the forgotten greats.”, but not the others. An advocate of abortion (etc) doesn’t deserve that sort of praise, regardless of what good causes she may have pushed.

It’s a good thing that those quotes are not covered by the doctrine of Papal Infallibility, especially the “forgotten greats” one.
 
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