Birth control and non-Catholics

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I’d be interested to know how many non-Catholics do not believe in using artificial birth control?

I was just reading an article that said MOST Catholics use some form of artificial birth control. That really shocked me because I thought the percentage would be much lower than that.

I’m kind of an oddball, because I’ve never used what I call “invasive” birth control (the pill, IUD, a patch, a shot, or any of that stuff.) Not because I have religious views against it, but because I’m one of those “earth mother” types who believes in living naturally as much as possible. I don’t even take prescription drugs or OTC meds if I can at all avoid it! So I’m certainly not going to take some drug with unseen side effects, just to avoid pregnancy, or let them insert some sort of wire thingie inside me that could damage my insides.

We did use condoms and diaphragms when we were first married, but then we both took a 4 month class in Natural Family Planning which was held at a local Catholic church hall. We used NFP to achieve the pregnancies of our three children (I tended to have very irregular periods due to PCOS, and so NFP was a boon for us…without it, I never would have known when I was ovulating!)

With my last child, unfortunately I had a major uterine rupture which necessitated them removing the uterus and an ovary ((it was damaged in the rupture). I don’t miss the uterus (!), but I do miss the ability to use NFP because it was a very scientific form of what I call “body knowledge”, and it even worked to help my dr diagnose a medical condition unrelated to pregnancy, which is often signaled by abnormally high early morning basal body temps!

I can’t say enough about NFP, because it really helps a woman get familiar with her body, and it even helps give you a better body image because it shows you how well your body works! I just wish I could still use it.

I’d be interested in knowing if any other non-Catholics have used NFP, and what you think of it. Also, do you have anti-birth control views as well?

This family is Protestant and I KNOW they don’t believe in birth control! duggarfamily.com
 
Sepharad said:
I’d be interested to know how many non-Catholics do not believe in using artificial birth control?
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I am Lutheran and am opposed to artificial birth control of any kind.
I’d be interested in knowing if any other non-Catholics have used NFP, and what you think of it. Also, do you have anti-birth control views as well?
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We practiced NFP up until my wife had to have a hysterectomy.
 
I’m not opposed to it, I think women should have the right to use it if they want to. I never used it because 1. I married later in life after peak fertility so actually getting pregnant was the hardest part for us and 2. I also didn’t like the idea of the synthetic hormones. I, too, have to be in pretty bad pain to take an OTC painkiller! Let alone hormones.
 
I am not opposed to NFP for those of a couple–BOTH of them–who want to use it but I find this sort of preoccupation with the female bodily functions disturbing. All that temperature taking, and preoccupation with genitalia, no less, palpating the vulva, wiggling the cervix, testing the cervical mucus, I think is disgusting and excessively focussed on the female cycle, which the human race, especially men have disparaged and proscribed for centuries–dirty menstrual cycles, mandatory mikva after the period, no bat mitzva because a girl might be menstruating when she touches the Torah–horrors!-- all that sort of stuff.

It’s also not reliable for the vast majority of its practitioners.

I’m a physician, by the way.

The vast majority of RC’s use ‘artificial’ birth control which has become safer, more predictable and cheaper–with many options, including reliable barriers–with each passing year.

The proscription of artificial birth control was the opening wedge in the divorce of the average Catholic from the official church in the US and Europe, the cradle of RC and where the money is. If it weren’t for all the money still coming from the US to the Vatican, the US church would have been in schism years ago.
 
I don’t intend to use birth control of any kind when I marry. I figure God is in control, He can give me however many children He sees fit. Pregnancies don’t happen by accident.

I’m not especially opposed to birth control, either - though I do think the pill has bad side effects, and I would not want to use any invasive methods (IUD, etc.).
 
I believe I had once read that most (or all, don’t remember)
Christian denominations were opposed to artifical birth control
until the 1940’s. The Catholic Church had stood it’s ground,
one of the many reasons I am happy to be Catholic!

If I am incorrect about the above, please correct me but I am
pretty sure that is accurate.
 
Donna_Mc said:
I believe I had once read that most (or all, don’t remember)
Christian denominations were opposed to artifical birth control
until the 1940’s. The Catholic Church had stood it’s ground,
one of the many reasons I am happy to be Catholic!

If I am incorrect about the above, please correct me but I am
pretty sure that is accurate.
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The part about the Catholic Church standing its ground is accurate Donna Mc…(I don’t know about other Christian denominations).

Catechism of the Catholic Church :

2399 The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception).
 
Donna_Mc said:
I believe I had once read that most (or all, don’t remember)
Christian denominations were opposed to artifical birth control
until the 1940’s. The Catholic Church had stood it’s ground,
one of the many reasons I am happy to be Catholic!

If I am incorrect about the above, please correct me but I am
pretty sure that is accurate.
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Yes, you are 100% right on that, historically!
 
I’m more with the OP on this one.

There is nothing “wrong” with the woman’s bodily functions, and it’s perfectly natural to pay attention to the signs, and to use those signs to achieve a reproductive goal (to get pregnant or avoid pregnancy).

What’s unnatural and disordered is the medical community’s insistance that the woman’s reproductive life is something that is properly, intelligently, and wisely handled by doctors who dole out chemicals, or by using artificial barriers.

That a professed medical professional (yourself) claims that using the body’s own signs is “disgusting” speaks volumes.

I pray that no woman is subjected to a doctor with that attitude.

This is the same medical community, btw, that allows its members to perform abortions.
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I am not opposed to NFP for those of a couple–BOTH of them–who want to use it but I find this sort of preoccupation with the female bodily functions disturbing. All that temperature taking, and preoccupation with genitalia, no less, palpating the vulva, wiggling the cervix, testing the cervical mucus, I think is disgusting and excessively focussed on the female cycle, which the human race, especially men have disparaged and proscribed for centuries–dirty menstrual cycles, mandatory mikva after the period, no bat mitzva because a girl might be menstruating when she touches the Torah–horrors!-- all that sort of stuff.

It’s also not reliable for the vast majority of its practitioners.

I’m a physician, by the way.

The vast majority of RC’s use ‘artificial’ birth control which has become safer, more predictable and cheaper–with many options, including reliable barriers–with each passing year.

The proscription of artificial birth control was the opening wedge in the divorce of the average Catholic from the official church in the US and Europe, the cradle of RC and where the money is. If it weren’t for all the money still coming from the US to the Vatican, the US church would have been in schism years ago.
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kalt said:
I’m more with the OP on this one.

There is nothing “wrong” with the woman’s bodily functions, and it’s perfectly natural to pay attention to the signs, and to use those signs to achieve a reproductive goal (to get pregnant or avoid pregnancy).

What’s unnatural and disordered is the medical community’s insistance that the woman’s reproductive life is something that is properly, intelligently, and wisely handled by doctors who dole out chemicals, or by using artificial barriers.

That a professed medical professional (yourself) claims that using the body’s own signs is “disgusting” speaks volumes.

I pray that no woman is subjected to a doctor with that attitude.

This is the same medical community, btw, that allows its members to perform abortions.
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I agree 1000% on everything you said!
 
Neither my husband or I are Catholic. We used NFP for many years, because it fit our beliefs, and our situation.

I would recommend it above the pill, patch, shot or IUD any day, for countless reasons.

I’m a pantheist and we believe in doing what comes naturally.

Home birth and breastfeeding seemed a natural extension of this for our family…oh, and the baby sleeping with us.

We found all of those things to be ways of honoring the process and the family.

cheddar
 
1234 said:
If it weren’t for all the money still coming from the US to the Vatican, the US church would have been in schism years ago.
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:rolleyes:

Whew. Thanks for the theology lesson, there, doc.

My non-Catholic, Evangelical SIL doesn’t use the pill due to its abortifacient nature, though has no problems with any other form of birth control, as per her pastor’s teachings on the subject.
 
I do not mind a girl taking birth control, if she doesn’t want to take a chance, good for her, I guess.

Now, Condemns, I reccommend them for anyone.
 
ChristianKnight said:
I do not mind a girl taking birth control, if she doesn’t want to take a chance, good for her, I guess.

Now, Condemns, I reccommend them for anyone.
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I didn’t detect any typo in the blue highlighted quote above…anyone else…?
 
I am opposed to Birth Control. After reading the facts, I see it as poison women are putting into thier bodies. Who knows how many babies have died because of Birth Control.
 
Wow a doctor that thinks that how womens cycles work is icky…That is a new one on me! I totally agree with Sepharad and Kalt.

Too funny NeedImprovement!!!
 
BlestOne said:
Wow a doctor that thinks that how womens cycles work is icky…That is a new one on me! I totally agree with Sepharad and Kalt.

Too funny NeedImprovement!!!
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His comments are one of many reasons why I distrust doctors and their allies, the drug companies. I’m sure there is a good reason why the Greek word which “pharmacy” derives from (pharmakon) originally meant “magic potion” and “poison”!
 
Sepharad said:
His comments are one of many reasons why I distrust doctors and their allies, the drug companies. I’m sure there is a good reason why the Greek word which “pharmacy” derives from (pharmakon) originally meant “magic potion” and “poison”!
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Hahahaha!!! That is funny! I too distrust doctors, but my reason is because I have gotten much misinformation from them and could have died if I had listened to them…but yes, I agree, I have seen too many doctors that are allied to pharmaceutical companies…
 
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