Birthrates Help Keep Filipinos in Poverty

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First off, I am sure you can go to any country in the world and take a picture of the poor there to support your agenda.

My wife is Filipina. She is from Cebu. Cebu is 2nd most populous city in the Philippines, behind Manilla. Estimates of people living there is maybe 5,000,000. My wife is one of the lucky ones with her family having property which generates income. She is fluent in Bisaya, Tagalog and English and speaks a smattering of Mandarin and Spanish. (That’s 5 languages) She has a college degree in business and her father put 5 children through college.

The city has it’s “good” side and it’s “bad” sides. It is a college and fishing town and many people survive by fishing all night and then having to sell their fish in the open markets all day. The college students work hard to help pay for college and maybe be able to provide for their families.

As to poverty, yeah it is pretty bad in some spots, but I have seen Mexican spots that are worse, as a matter of fact parts of Cebu are actually nicer than parts of Atlanta I grew up in.

But the wonderful part of Cebu is: you can walk to probably 10 Catholic Churches from their house their. St Rosario and St Nino being the biggest. St Nino has at least 12 services every Friday and there is always someone in the Adoration Chapel. The people of Cebu may not have money but they are the friendliest, kindest, nicest and holiest people I have ever met. My wife and I fully intend on retiring there and helping these poor people at either St Nino or maybe the Missionaries of the Poor.

The poor are just another way we can show God we love him by helping them. Every child born is a gift, a treasure, a blessing. Everyone is hope for a new day. God loves everyone of them and contraception is a big sin against God.
 
Ted_in_Charlott said:
My wife is Filipina. She is from Cebu. Cebu is 2nd most populous city in the Philippines, behind Manilla. Estimates of people living there is maybe 5,000,000. My wife is one of the lucky ones with her family having property which generates income.
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Hey my wife is Cebuana too! Though one of the poorest ones there.
Ted_in_Charlott said:
My wife and I fully intend on retiring there and helping these poor people at either St Nino or maybe the Missionaries of the Poor.
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the philippines is a great place if you have money.
Ted_in_Charlott said:
Every child born is a gift, a treasure, a blessing. Everyone is hope for a new day. God loves everyone of them and contraception is a big sin against God.
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too much of anything is not a good thing.
 
AgnosTheist said:
You are an animal. This is fact you cannot deny it. 😃

Perhaps you are one of those Asexual types? Thats why its so easy for you to dismiss human sexuality?

asexuality.org/home/
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Way to go for the third grade come backs.👍

Yes I am an animal, BUT I am also well aware that I am much more than that. I can control my sexual urges because I won’t let others tell me that I am like the a common dog who cannot control who I should be with. I am unsure how you can sleep at night well you feed these lies to your fellow Filipino brother.
 
po18guy said:
Agnos, if you do not have relations with every woman you encounter, then you are using self-control, correct?
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of course. but here is the context:
  1. a poor couple living in the slums.
  2. no electricity.
  3. very poor so must save on candles & kerosene lamps.
  4. already dark by 6pm.
  5. nothing else to do
  6. the fact that the poorest has the largest families.
i’m just stating the obvious that people under those conditions has little other to do than have sex.
 
AgnosTheist said:
of course. but here is the context:
  1. a poor couple living in the slums.
  2. no electricity.
  3. very poor so must save on candles & kerosene lamps.
  4. already dark by 6pm.
  5. nothing else to do
  6. the fact that the poorest has the largest families.
i’m just stating the obvious that people under those conditions has little other to do than have sex.
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Or maybe they really do want to have kids, in order to have someone to help them. It’s not like they’ve got any other retirement plan. The more kids they have, the better off they’ll be when they get old.
 
The idea that if only contraceptives were allowed the birth rate would go down is false. People in underveloped countires do not have large families becuse they dont have acess to cotraception-they have large families because of low life expectancy and the need to have children to provide for them if they advance into old age.
 
AgnosTheist said:
of course. but here is the context:
  1. a poor couple living in the slums.
  2. no electricity.
  3. very poor so must save on candles & kerosene lamps.
  4. already dark by 6pm.
  5. nothing else to do
  6. the fact that the poorest has the largest families.
i’m just stating the obvious that people under those conditions has little other to do than have sex.
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If they are a married couple what is it to you.

how do you know if this is not what they want to do?

I grow up in one of these poor and big families you so detest, and I can say that I love everyone of my siblings. I might not of had alot in the standard American eyes, but I could never had done without any of my brothers or sisters.

God has a bigger plan than yours and you are threading on thin ground if you think other wise.
 
AgnosTheist said:
of course. but here is the context:
  1. a poor couple living in the slums.
  2. no electricity.
  3. very poor so must save on candles & kerosene lamps.
  4. already dark by 6pm.
  5. nothing else to do
  6. the fact that the poorest has the largest families.
i’m just stating the obvious that people under those conditions has little other to do than have sex.
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The family of Joseph, Mary and Jesus:
  1. poor family living in a cave in Nazareth (Nazareth=1 acre of caves)
  2. no electricity.
  3. very poor so must save on candles. did not live long enough to see kerosene.
  4. already dark by 6pm.
  5. nothing else to do but give thanks and praise.
  6. this poor family was the smallest and most earth-changing family of all.
Christ’s peace.

You are looking for a physical solution to a spiritual problem.
 
st_lucy said:
“How can there be too many children? That is like saying there are too many flowers…” Mother Teresa .
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Thats when you can no longer afford to support your children.

Flowers are self sustaining. Human babies are not.

Mother Teresa is not known for being smart.
 
po18guy said:
The family of Joseph, Mary and Jesus:
  1. poor family living in a cave in Nazareth (Nazareth=1 acre of caves)
  2. no electricity.
  3. very poor so must save on candles. did not live long enough to see kerosene.
  4. already dark by 6pm.
  5. nothing else to do but give thanks and praise.
  6. this poor family was the smallest and most earth-changing family of all.
Christ’s peace.

You are looking for a physical solution to a spiritual problem.
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sorry, but i go by the literal interpretation that mary had lots of kids. its in your bible. :cool:

having many kids was useful in the past. today is another matter.
 
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