Bisexuality / Homosexuality and Radical Feminism - Connection ?

[LemonAndLime]

In the military there is one pay scale, not a men’s scale and a women’s scale. We all got paid the same for our rank and time in service; yet, on AVERAGE, men make more. I know men make more, on average, but men and women make the same for equal work. Why is that? Heterosexual women make choices and homosexual women don’t like the choices they make.

That quote speaks for itself.

 

[Stephen168]

If what I said is not what you meant, what did you mean then?

From your previous posts, I think you are too young and angry to truly understand.

 

[LemonAndLime]

From your previous posts, I think you are too young and angry to truly understand.

Of course, someone who is passionate about feminism and in their early twenties lacks the capacity to understand anything, as they must have low intelligence.

Stop insulting my intelligence. Or maybe you’re just trying to get out of explaining what you meant?

 

[Stephen168]

That quote speaks for itself.

but it does not say

“homosexuals are the only ones who complain”

Some day you will see how you made a mistake in understanding what I said.

 

[Stephen168]

Of course, someone who is passionate about feminism and in their early twenties lacks the capacity to understand anything, as they must have low intelligence.

No, I think you have low life experience. How many children do you have?

 

[LemonAndLime]

but it does not say

Some day you will see how you made a mistake in understanding what I said.

I don’t think so.

So, what did you mean by saying that the reason behind the equal pay problem was heterosexual women making choices and homosexual women being the ones who don’t like it (implying they are the ones who have an issue).

 

[John21652]

While on holiday in England, we had an English woman ask us if Americans still got married? That question had me wondering if the radicals had completely succeeded in replacing men with the government in Britain.

Well Stephen, English society is now so screwed up I’m not surprised at the question you were asked. In court cases in England recently, homosexuals were given precedence over Christians in a heirarchy of beliefs. In one case, an English couple refused to give B&B accomodation to a homosexual couple, were taken to court and fined for ‘discrimination’, even though they were exercising their Christian beliefs. In another case, a Christian couple were denied an adoption because they told a social worker they would not tell a little boy homosexuality was OK. Of course the homosexual lobby has pushed very hard for so called ‘equality’, supported by the radical feminists who also demand ‘equality’ and now the ‘equality’ is producing unequal outcomes.

The British forgot that not all things can be equal.

And, of course, those who speak up for the values that once made Britain great are labelled as discriminotory, bogoted, sexist and misogynist. Just ask LemonAndLime. She wants to migrate to a certain country that is to be found at the bottom of the world because her society is so screwed up.

 

[LemonAndLime]

Well Stephen, English society is now so screwed up I’m not surprised at the question you were asked. In court cases in England recently, homosexuals were given precedence over Christians in a heirarchy of beliefs. In one case, an English couple refused to give B&B accomodation to a homosexual couple, were taken to court and fined for ‘discrimination’, even though they were exercising their Christian beliefs. In another case, a Christian couple were denied an adoption because they told a social worker they would not tell a little boy homosexuality was OK. Of course the homosexual lobby has pushed very hard for so called ‘equality’, supported by the radical feminists who also demand ‘equality’ and now the ‘equality’ is producing unequal outcomes.

The British forgot that not all things can be equal.

And, of course, those who speak up for the values that once made Britain great are labelled as discriminotory, bogoted, sexist and misogynist. Just ask LemonAndLime. She wants to migrate to a certain country that is to be found at the bottom of the world because her society is so screwed up.

For the B&B case - they are providing a public service, it is illegal to do what they did against Christians, Muslims, Gays, Jews. Like it or lump it that’s the law. I disagree with the Judge’s verdict. For your information - the Judge allowed an appeal and agreed that his ruling was potentially unfair.

For the adoption case - yet again, if you don’t like the law don’t live here. Judges have commented that rights shouldn’t trump other rights and the law needs reviewing.

Also - if you don’t live here, don’t act like you know my country. Don’t insult my country. Don’t twist my words. Don’t suggest that women wanting equal rights is to blame for the homosexual movement. “If they’ll let women have rights, they’ll let anyone have rights!” Honestly.

 

[John21652]

Of course, someone who is passionate about feminism and in their early twenties lacks the capacity to understand anything, as they must have low intelligence.

Stop insulting my intelligence. Or maybe you’re just trying to get out of explaining what you meant?

LemonAndLime, Stephen wrote this -

In the military there is one pay scale, not a men’s scale and a women’s scale.

In your ‘passion’ for feminism you only quoted and focused on what you wanted to interpret as being anti-feminist. His opening sentence stated unequivocally that pay scales are equal. However, you have elected to make a song and dance about something you percieved to be ‘insulting’. In all your posts you echo the calls of the radical feminists and you echoed their terminology when you responded to Stephen, labelling him accordingly. You show yourself to be very reactionary and very emotive to the point of being blinded by your passion. Stephen also mentioned the concept of ‘maturity’. It is a fact, rooted firmly in history, that the Universities of the world gave birth to the radical, marxist indoctrinated feminists, like Greer, who go on to impress even more young minds with their errant nonsense. It is a fact that Greers Alma Mater is renowned for its embrace of Marxism in its Arts faculty. It’s also a fact that right round the world, many who embraced these radical philosophies have recanted as they grew older and gained some wisdom. Don’t knock those who are older and wiser. Stephen cited his military experience and wrote from that experience and you knocked and insulted him. Sounding just like Greer in the process.

 

[LemonAndLime]

LemonAndLime, Stephen wrote this -
In your ‘passion’ for feminism you only quoted and focused on what you wanted to interpret as being anti-feminist. His opening sentence stated unequivocally that pay scales are equal. However, you have elected to make a song and dance about something you percieved to be ‘insulting’. In all your posts you echo the calls of the radical feminists and you echoed their terminology when you responded to Stephen, labelling him accordingly. You show yourself to be very reactionary and very emotive to the point of being blinded by your passion. Stephen also mentioned the concept of ‘maturity’. It is a fact, rooted firmly in history, that the Universities of the world gave birth to the radical, marxist indoctrinated feminists, like Greer, who go on to impress even more young minds with their errant nonsense. It is a fact that Greers Alma Mater is renowned for its embrace of Marxism in its Arts faculty. It’s also a fact that right round the world, many who embraced these radical philosophies have recanted as they grew older and gained some wisdom. Don’t knock those who are older and wiser. Stephen cited his military experience and wrote from that experience and you knocked and insulted him. Sounding just like Greer in the process.

John, my comment was aimed at a different post of this, not that one. Scroll up a little, you’ll find the quote.

Pssst - not all women in the world are employed by the army. So what the army pays everyone equally? His point is a very minor one in the grand scale of things, so your rant was totally uncalled for.

 

[elvisman]

No, not at all. I am not a doctor yet. Give me another year. The reason that I posted the proclamations from the proceedings of the APA was too illustrate just how incompetent Dr. Nicolosi is. Do you have any idea how rare it is for a professional organization to name one of the practitioners in its field as an example of bad medical practice? The APA actually names him as an example to it members of malpractice, in its official proclamations.

Don’t take my word for it. I agree with you that I am not qualified to evaluate his competence. I think that the APA is qualified, however, as they set the professional standards for the profession. It is nearly unprecedented for them to single someone out and name him as a bad practitioner, in an official declaration.

Whenever somebody speaks out and is not part of the left-leaning, politically corrct machine - they are labeled as incompetent.**

I asked you to tell me what you thought about their success stories - not another condemnation from the left. The proof is in the pudding - not in the acrimoniou remarks from their PC peers . . .

 

[elvisman]

I must ask this Elvis, are you Dr. Nicolosi posing as Elvis? Why are you such a fan of his, considering his poor reputation?

His poor reputation with a profession run amok with politically correctness, yes. No, Dr. Nicolosi is a voice of reason in a profession that has for decades been sliding into the depths of denial where everything is a “disease”.**

The only disease is the brand of therapy that promotes this nonsense by making everybody blameless in he first place . . .

 

[John21652]

John, my comment was aimed at a different post of this, not that one. Scroll up a little, you’ll find the quote.

Pssst - not all women in the world are employed by the army. So what the army pays everyone equally? His point is a very minor one in the grand scale of things, so your rant was totally uncalled for.

I quoted Stephen, the same as you did. You highlighted what suited you and ignored the rest. And you pasted him with labels. Unfairly, considering what he wrote. Here, again, you are having a big ‘go’ at him because he wrote from his experience and now you denigrate that experience by saying “so what” about the military. You now state his point was a minor one in the great scheme of things, a further insult, but, strangely, one you reacted to with vehemence.

You also wrote this, attributing it to me - “If they’ll let women have rights, they’ll let anyone have rights!” I never wrote that, or anything that could even be remotely construed as meaning that. Neither did anyone else. You are being very disengenuous, to put it mildly.

I also didn’t ‘insult’ your country. I gave factual information and I then gave my own personal and my own Catholic opinion on what is happening to Britain. It is even acknowledged by writers from your own country. Read Melanie Phillips. I have also been to Britain on multiple occasions and have friends there. I know what Britain is like and so does the rest of the world. My friends in England are disgusted at what is going on. In one of the cases I mentioned, Christianity was described as ‘infecting society’. As a Catholic, you should be railing aginst that and not supporting the very ideology which has brought that view into the open… Your support for the Law as it is written is also support for moral relativity writ large. Because something is Law does not mean it is morally right. You need to learn the difference because it is important to Catholicism.

 

[LemonAndLime]

I quoted Stephen, the same as you did. You highlighted what suited you and ignored the rest. And you pasted him with labels. Unfairly, considering what he wrote. Here, again, you are having a big ‘go’ at him because he wrote from his experience and now you denigrate that experience by saying “so what” about the military. You now state his point was a minor one in the great scheme of things, a further insult, but, strangely, one you reacted to with vehemence.

I also didn’t ‘insult’ your country. I gave factual information and I then gave my own personal and my own Catholic opinion on what is happeneing to Britain. It is even acknowledged by writers from your own country. Read Melanie Phillips. I have also been to Britain on multiple occasions and have friends there. I know what Britain is like and so does the rest of the world. In one of the cases I mentioned, Christianity was described as ‘infecting society’. As a Catholic, you should be railing aginst that and not supporting the very ideology which has brought that view into the open…

I am, but something you should know about Englishmen/women is this - we are allowed to insult our country, but foreigners aren’t.

Stephen mentioned the military in his post, yes. But the final part of his post was most definately a general comment on the equal pay for equal work movement/arguments. And no, it’s not insulting the military. It’s pointing out a fact - the military is one employer of thousands, and therefore all he is doing is quoting the policy of one employer. Hardly the be all and end all of any point he was ever trying to make, assuming it’s true of course.

 

[LemonAndLime]

I quoted Stephen, the same as you did. You highlighted what suited you and ignored the rest. And you pasted him with labels. Unfairly, considering what he wrote. Here, again, you are having a big ‘go’ at him because he wrote from his experience and now you denigrate that experience by saying “so what” about the military. You now state his point was a minor one in the great scheme of things, a further insult, but, strangely, one you reacted to with vehemence.

I also didn’t ‘insult’ your country. I gave factual information and I then gave my own personal and my own Catholic opinion on what is happeneing to Britain. It is even acknowledged by writers from your own country. Read Melanie Phillips. I have also been to Britain on multiple occasions and have friends there. I know what Britain is like and so does the rest of the world. In one of the cases I mentioned, Christianity was described as ‘infecting society’. As a Catholic, you should be railing aginst that and not supporting the very ideology which has brought that view into the open…

Factual information?

“English society is now so screwed up”

I’m sorry, but you do not know Britain better than me - a native.

 

[Stephen168]

Pssst - not all women in the world are employed by the army. So what the army pays everyone equally? His point is a very minor one in the grand scale of things, so your rant was totally uncalled for.

I did not say the Army, I said the military. The point was not that men and women in the military receive equal pay; they do not; on AVERAGE men make more than women. My point was to try and make you think. Read, comprehend, and think.

In the military there is one pay scale, not a men’s scale and a women’s scale. We all got paid the same for our rank and time in service; yet, on AVERAGE, men make more. I know men make more, on average, but men and women make the same for equal work. Why is that? Heterosexual women make choices and homosexual women don’t like the choices they make.

They are on the SAME pay scale but men AVERAGE more……why?

 

[LemonAndLime]

I did not say the Army, I said the military. The point was not that men and women in the military receive equal pay; they do not; on AVERAGE men make more than women. My point was to try and make you think. Read, comprehend, and think.

They are on the SAME pay scale but men AVERAGE more……why?

Why do you think it is?

Men perhaps receive more bonuses. More men are in the top jobs, perhaps because men are more likely to be promoted for being a male in a “manly” profession (the same way that women are more likely to get top nursing jobs).

You could look at that and say “well, men must just be better in the army than women!” or “well, women must just be better nurses than men!” or you could look at it from a sociological/psychological viewpoint.

Stephen, you still have to respond to my asking post about what you meant by homosexual women being the ones who complain, at the end of your original post about the military.

 

[Stephen168]

More men are in the top jobs, perhaps because men are more likely to be promoted for being a male in a “manly” profession (the same way that women are more likely to get top nursing jobs).

Are you saying female nurses make more than male nurses?

 

[mark_a]

I’m confused by this. What do you mean “sexual behavior?” I’ve heard Catholics complain of “radical” feminists imitating men’s behavior in the family and workplace, but how do women attempt to imitate men’s SEXUAL behavior?

I’m presuming they don’t hate all men, but are behaving like the bad apples they hate.

Please tell me this isn’t some Freudian reference . . .

I couldn’t tell ya. I picked it up on Catholic Radio of all places.

 

[Peepers]

Well Stephen, English society is now so screwed up I’m not surprised at the question you were asked. In court cases in England recently, homosexuals were given precedence over Christians in a heirarchy of beliefs. In one case, an English couple refused to give B&B accomodation to a homosexual couple, were taken to court and fined for ‘discrimination’, even though they were exercising their Christian beliefs. In another case, a Christian couple were denied an adoption because they told a social worker they would not tell a little boy homosexuality was OK. Of course the homosexual lobby has pushed very hard for so called ‘equality’, supported by the radical feminists who also demand ‘equality’ and now the ‘equality’ is producing unequal outcomes.

The British forgot that not all things can be equal.

And, of course, those who speak up for the values that once made Britain great are labelled as discriminotory, bogoted, sexist and misogynist. Just ask LemonAndLime. She wants to migrate to a certain country that is to be found at the bottom of the world because her society is so screwed up.

No, John. Christians were not allowed to discriminate against some gay people who sought accommodation. It was a purely secular matter, much like telling a black, a jew, a muslim, a redhead, or a Catholic to go elsewhere. Anyone who chooses to go into business, also chooses to follow the law of the land where they are doing business. If, on the other hand, the Church is ever legally required to perform gay marriages, then that would be an instance of putting a precedence on various faiths. Can you see the difference?