Bishop Flynn Again!

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St. PaulMinneapolis Bishop Accuses Priests Faithful to Catholic Teaching of Operating "Parallel Church"

MINNEAPOLIS- ST. PAUL, December 20, 2004 (LifeSiteNews.com) - While Bishop Harry Flynn’s welcoming of militant homosexual activists into his cathedral continues to embarrass the Catholic Church, the Archbishop of Minneapolis-St. Paul has gone one step further and issued a letter banning priests faithful to the teaching of the Church from working in the archdiocese.

In a letter to parishes, Flynn banned the activities of the Legionaries of Christ, a group of priests with full Vatican approval, dedicated to implementing Pope John Paul II’s call for a ‘new evangelization’. Flynn wrote, “The Legionaries of Christ are not to be active in any way in the diocese of Minneapolis and St. Paul.”

In his letter to Fr. Anthony Bannon, the local head of the Legionaries of Christ, Archbishop Flynn says that since their activities “operate outside the normal structures of the Catholic Church…there is no opportunity for me to exercise appropriate vigilance in their regard.” Flynn then said that the activities of the Legionaries and the affiliated group, Regnum Christi “must be completely separate from all activities of the parishes and the archdiocese.” The bishop’s extreme action appears to indicate he is deeply concerned that the Legionaries, whom he cannot directly control because of their special status in the Church, are a threat to his liberal agenda for the diocese.

Flynn has not taken such action, however, against homosexual activists such as the notorious ‘gay’ parish, St. Joan of Arc, whose promotion of homosexuality has been directly censured by the Vatican. Archbishop Flynn has also welcomed the “Rainbow Sash Movement,” a group whose publicly staged anti-Catholic protests have seen them barred from participating in Catholic services even in Cardinal McCarrick’s Washington diocese.

Pope John Paul II, however, recently praised the Legionaries and Regnum Christi for their “intrepid witness” and charged them to continue their “evangelizing mission.” The Pope, speaking on the occasion of the 60th anniversary of the Legionaries founding, extended a “special apostolic blessing” to all members of the Legionaries and Regnum Christi movement. In addition, such Catholic luminaries as author, George Weigel, Harvard law professor, Mary Anne Glendon, and editor of “First Things” magazine, Richard John Neuhaus have praised and endorsed the activities of the Legionaries in their efforts to restore Catholic faith and practice.

In Flynn’s letter to Fr. Bannon, he said, “I feel very strongly that any group that ministers within this local Church needs to do so in a way that promotes unity and cooperation. Rather than experiencing such a spirit, our pastors continue to sense that ‘a parallel Church’ is being encouraged.”

Previous LifeSiteNews.com coverage:
Minneapolis Archbishop Claims Vatican Okay with Communion for Homosexual Activists
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I suspect that the Legionnaires have more than enough work in the dioceses where they are wanted. They are currently founding a new University in the diocese of Sacramento, Maybe better times are ahead for California.
 
Hopefully this news has already reached the Vatican and this poor excuse for a bishop will be removed from his post. Thank God I live in Pennsylvania where us supposedly provincial, intolerant, and old-fashioned Christians dwell…
 
Well the good bishop finally decided to take a stand on something. Oddly he chose to take it against orthodox Catholics. This is an interesting, and re-occuring, situation.
 
Time for the good Bishop to be removed, he is ignoring the teachings of the Church. Many will be watching on how this will be addressed by Rome.

james
 
CCC 2089 Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. "Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him
 
Flynn has an agenda. The question is is it the same agenda as Christ’s Church? Hmmm.
 
He’s the bishop there. You’re not. It is his episcopal right to insist on control of operations in his diocese. I have no knowledge of the issues here, but it strikes me as dangerous when so little respect for proper authority is displayed.

Is not NET Ministries still based in and overseen by this Diocese? If he’s the dastardly devil collaborator you imply, surely this stellar organization would not be tolerated?

Back off and let the proper Church authorities do their divinely appointed jobs, however slowly.
 
Yes, in general religious orders and organizations are allowed to operate in a diocese only at the discretion of the local bishop. Perhaps this bishop has a good reason (beyond just that he doesn’t like them). But even if not - it’s his call. The church is not a democracy.
 
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Flynn has an agenda. The question is is it the same agenda as Christ’s Church? Hmmm.
He’s something else again…
 
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He’s the bishop there. You’re not. It is his episcopal right to insist on control of operations in his diocese. I have no knowledge of the issues here, but it strikes me as dangerous when so little respect for proper authority is displayed.

Is not NET Ministries still based in and overseen by this Diocese? If he’s the dastardly devil collaborator you imply, surely this stellar organization would not be tolerated?

Back off and let the proper Church authorities do their divinely appointed jobs, however slowly.
Give me a break. This man has a record. It is well known. This is not an isolated example. Many bishops should be corrected by Rome, but are not. Collegiality rules the day. I hope that changes soon.

There is a name for what you propose and that name is clericalism. The bishops try hard to impose it. From his dioscese we see the fruit of clericalism. Heterodox dissenters are free to spread error. The orthodox are penalized.
 
The Legionaries were banned in a diocese in Ohio a few years ago, also. The letter Archbishop Flynn wrote to Fr. Bannon doesn’t state any specific reasons–it displays what seems to be just a general mistrust of the goals of the order. It is ironic that the letter was dated just one month before the Holy Father released his letters praising the Legion of Christ and Regnum Christi and approved the Regnum Christi statutes.

The Legionaries are characteristically taking this in stride–nothing is on their websites about this. They also are obedient and will respect the decision of Archbishop Flynn. I know I could learn from that example!
 
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Give me a break. This man has a record. It is well known. This is not an isolated example. Many bishops should be corrected by Rome, but are not. Collegiality rules the day. I hope that changes soon.

There is a name for what you propose and that name is clericalism. The bishops try hard to impose it. From his dioscese we see the fruit of clericalism. Heterodox dissenters are free to spread error. The orthodox are penalized.
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In his letter to Fr. Anthony Bannon, the local head of the Legionaries of Christ, Archbishop Flynn says that since their activities “operate outside the normal structures of the Catholic Church…there is no opportunity for me to exercise appropriate vigilance in their regard.” Flynn then said that the activities of the Legionaries and the affiliated group, Regnum Christi “must be completely separate from all activities of the parishes and the archdiocese.”

Flynn has not taken such action, however, against homosexual activists such as the notorious ‘gay’ parish, St. Joan of Arc, whose promotion of homosexuality has been directly censured by the Vatican. Archbishop Flynn has also welcomed the “Rainbow Sash Movement,” a group whose publicly staged anti-Catholic protests have seen them barred from participating in Catholic services even in Cardinal McCarrick’s Washington diocese.

lifesite.net/ldn/2004/dec/04122007.html
 
Lord have mercy! If the Archbishop is indeed a heretic, canonically speaking, has he not forfeited his apostolic rights even if Rome has not yet taken action?
 
Give me a break. This man has a record. It is well known. This is not an isolated example. Many bishops should be corrected by Rome, but are not. Collegiality rules the day. I hope that changes soon.

There is a name for what you propose and that name is clericalism. The bishops try hard to impose it. From his dioscese we see the fruit of clericalism. Heterodox dissenters are free to spread error. The orthodox are penalized.
Right on fix, I couldn’t of said it better myself. If a bishop didn’t agree with one or more of Rome’s teachings and decided take himself and his diocese out of the Church, I am sure many of his priests and people would follow unfortunately. And bishops HAVE left communion with Rome in the past(ie Marcel Lefebvre-Tulle France 1988, Petrus Codde-Utrecht Holland 1701, and Michael Cerularius-Constantinople 1054). Of course this is not the issue with Flynn yet, at least not officially. But I have serious questions from a practical standpoint though.
When will this excuse for a bishop be removed?
My thoughts exactly, but probably not till he retires, which could not come soon enough for the spiritual health of the archdiocese in my humble opinion.

Looks like the Legionaries-Flynn story is hitting the Catholic world big time, CNS has it up now catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0407003.htm
 
We should never judge a priest, even when he’s in error. We have no right to judge a Bishop! Only God can do this. The Holy Father is patient with them. They are successors of the apostles, pray for them. Don’t judge them.

Padre Pio “Don’t worry, work and pray.”
 
Does anyone know if the Legionaries have received this kind of treatment in any other diocese?

My oldest friend (met in kindergarten), became a Legionary Priest after 12 years of preperation after college, (he did it faster because he was able to trim off two years by combining some graduate work and missionary requiments in East Germany. My friend was on fire when he left to start his preperations. He described this order as “like the Jesuits used to be”.
During his studies in Rome and Spain he often mentioned the tremendous support they were getting from JPII. One Christmas I saw my friend serving JP11 at the midnight Christmas Vigil Mass!

Anyhow, knowing my friend and what he has told me it would seem that they would likely get a lot of push-back. Anyone know?
 
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Does anyone know if the Legionaries have received this kind of treatment in any other diocese?
I’ve seen posted on another board that they are banned from the diocese of Columbus, Ohio and in the Diocese of Baton Rouge they are allowed to work with adults but banned from working with young boys.
 
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. . .During his studies in Rome and Spain he often mentioned the tremendous support they were getting from JPII. One Christmas I saw my friend serving JP11 at the midnight Christmas Vigil Mass!

. . .QUOTE] I think the Legionaires served the Papal Midnight Mass again this year.
 
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