Bishop of San Jose: Do not deny sacraments, burial sought in good faith

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Bishop of San Jose: Do not deny sacraments, burial sought in good faith

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The Bishop of San Jose (Calif), Patrick Joseph McGrath, just released a letter that read:
Recent news reports of policies and practices related to members of the LGBT community in other dioceses can be confusing.
I take this opportunity to assure you that the pastoral response in the Diocese of San Jose remains just that: compassionate and pastoral. We will not refuse sacraments or Christian Burial to anyone who requests them in good faith.
Finally, let us remember and be guided by the words of Pope Francis: “The Eucharist is not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.”
This is very heartening.
 
"I take this opportunity to assure you that the pastoral response in the Diocese of San Jose remains as it is: worldly. We will not follow the commandments of our Holy God because God is a big meanie who doesn’t understand the modern world.

Finally, let us take some words of the Holy Father out of context so we can justify our destruction of Catholic teaching and dogma. We have no fear of Hell because honestly, we stopped believing in Hell a long time ago."

Wonderful. Just wonderful.
 
"I take this opportunity to assure you that the pastoral response in the Diocese of San Jose remains as it is: worldly. We will not follow the commandments of our Holy God because God is a big meanie who doesn’t understand the modern world.

Finally, let us take some words of the Holy Father out of context so we can justify our destruction of Catholic teaching and dogma. We have no fear of Hell because honestly, we stopped believing in Hell a long time ago."

Wonderful. Just wonderful.
Dude, come on.

I did wonder how Paprocki’s stipulation would work when it comes to deathbed confessions. Like, if a gay man in a gay marriage repents as he dies, can the priest say he died repenting? Wouldn’t that be breaking the seal?

More Catholics need to read Leon Bloy. All I’m saying.
 
"I take this opportunity to assure you that the pastoral response in the Diocese of San Jose remains as it is: worldly. We will not follow the commandments of our Holy God because God is a big meanie who doesn’t understand the modern world.

Finally, let us take some words of the Holy Father out of context so we can justify our destruction of Catholic teaching and dogma. We have no fear of Hell because honestly, we stopped believing in Hell a long time ago."

Wonderful. Just wonderful.
It’s okay if you disagree with the bishop, but putting words in his mouth in a mocking way is surely against forum rules.
 
This is very heartening.
Yes, heartening. :rolleyes: The constant teaching of the magisterium and Christ’s own words from the Gospels are thrown out of the window in the name of compassion and being pastoral.

At least those who persist in obstinate sin now have the excuse of their clergy telling them that it is ok to engage in behavior that the Church has always taught to be sinful.
 
Dude, come on.

I did wonder how Paprocki’s stipulation would work when it comes to deathbed confessions. Like, if a gay man in a gay marriage repents as he dies, can the priest say he died repenting? Wouldn’t that be breaking the seal?.
Nope, the could verify that the person received Sacramental Absolution as part of Last Rites.

They could not reveal anything that was said in the context of a confession, but that a Sacrament was administered can be noted.
 
This is disheartening.

It’s extremely sad to see, at almost every turn, bishop against bishop, pastor against pastor, and even Bishops’ Conference against Bishops’ Conference on several issues.

Frankly, this whole controversy that’s erupted around Bishop Paprocki’s decree (which is simply a reiteration ** of Catholic teaching) is ridiculous. As Bishop Paprocki commented in an interview earlier this week, "[T]he decree is a rather straightforward application of existing Church teaching and canon law.** The Catholic Church has been very clear for two thousand years that we do not accept same-sex “marriage,” yet many people seem to think that the Church must simply cave in to the popular culture now that same-sex “marriage” has been declared legal in civil law."

I find Bishop McGrath’s statement to be very troubling, however. This is what I mean about bishop being against bishop: by him saying that “the pastoral response in the Diocese of San Jose remains just that: compassionate and pastoral”, this implies that what Bishop Paprocki has done in his diocese is not compassionate, nor are his directives pastoral. What are we to make of this?

I truly believe that Bishop Paprocki’s decree was compassionate and is indeed very pastoral. He cares about his flock, and does not want Catholics in his diocese (or anywhere) to be scandalized at a Rite of Christian Burial for an unrepentant person who openly dissented from Church teaching by living in a state sanctioned same-sex marriage. Of course, one can certainly have Masses offered for such a person, as one can do for any person living or dead. But a public funeral, a public Rite of Christian Burial (especially in the context of the Holy Mass), for an unrepentant person living in a state of manifest grave sin is indeed scandalous. One of the nine ways of assisting in the sin of another is to remain silent. In his pastoral and compassionate judgement, Bishop Paprocki has decided to not remain silent.

Furthermore, it seems that Bishop McGrath has made the same mistake that Fr. Martin and many others (Catholic or secular) have made regarding Bishop Paprocki’s decree. In his statement, Bishop McGrath mentions that “Recent news reports of policies and practices related to members of the LGBT community in other dioceses can be confusing.” Also, the original Instagram post of Bishop McGrath’s letter (since removed) had this as part of the caption: “However, our bishop just put out a letter saying that our diocese (a collection of 52 churches in Santa Clara County) will continue providing these services to ALL people, regardless of their sexual orientation. Go, Bishop McGrath!!”

It’s clear that they did not understand what Bishop Paprocki’s decree was getting at. The decree was specifically aimed at those who have contracted a state sanctioned same-sex marriage. From Bishop Paprocki’s own mouth, in that same interview I linked above, emphases mine:
A lot of people seem to have missed the [decree’s] whole point of the call to repentance and conversion. They seem to think that the decree is a blanket condemnation of people who are gay and lesbian. It is not. My decree does not focus on “LGBT people,” but on so-called same-sex “marriage,” which is a public legal status. No one is ever denied the sacraments or Christian burial for simply having a homosexual orientation. Even someone who had entered into a same-sex “marriage” can receive the sacraments and be given ecclesiastical funeral rites if they repent and renounce their “marriage.”
Bishop McGrath mentions that those “in good faith” may receive Christian Burial if they request it. But what of those who make the request in “bad faith”? This is what Bishop Paprocki is addressing. Bishop McGrath does not address the matter of requests made in bad faith in his extremely short statement, and this is why Bishop Paprocki’s decree is a bit longer, as Bishop Paprocki does address this possibility.

Bishop McGrath also quotes Pope Francis: "The Eucharist is not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.” That’s awesome! I totally 100% agree with this! But we also have to remember what St. Paul said, and realize that it doesn’t contradict in any way what Pope Francis said:
Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself. That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died. But if we judged ourselves truly, we should not be judged. But when we are judged by the Lord, we are chastened so that we may not be condemned along with the world. (1 Cor 11:27-32)
 
And on another note, I really do think Bishop Paprocki has been one of the most compassionate bishops by firmly articulating what the Church teaches. As a pastor of souls, he has a duty to his flock, especially the duty that he is required to obey in Canon 843 §2:
Pastors of souls and other members of the Christian faithful, according to their respective ecclesiastical function, have the duty to take care that those who seek the sacraments are prepared to receive them by proper evangelization and catechetical instruction, attentive to the norms issued by competent authority.
Bishop Paprocki is doing his job. It’s sad to see Bishop McGrath knock him for doing so; that is, to dismiss him so quickly in such an ambiguous comment. Robert Cardinal Sarah made a powerful point in his new book the Power of Silence, and I believe it is particularly salient here in this case. God bless Bishop Paprocki for defending Christ and the teachings that have been transmitted by Him to the Church:
Christ is certainly distressed to see and to hear priests and bishops, who ought to be protecting the integrity of the teaching of the Gospel and of doctrine, multiply words and writing that weaken the rigor of the Gospel by their deliberately confused, ambiguous statements. It is not inopportune to remind these priests and prelates who give the impression of saying the opposite of the Church’s traditional teaching in matters of doctrine or morality, of Christ’s severe words: “Therefore I tell you every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or the age to come. [He] is guilty of an eternal sin”.
…Every priest and every bishop out to be able to say, like St. Augustine: "Voce Ecclesaie loquor (I speak with the voice of the Church).
 
Dude, come on.

I did wonder how Paprocki’s stipulation would work when it comes to deathbed confessions. Like, if a gay man in a gay marriage repents as he dies, can the priest say he died repenting?
Yes, he can say that, in certain circumstances.
Wouldn’t that be breaking the seal?
No. It would not be, so long as the priest doesn’t actually directly reveal what was confessed. Only general statements can be made.

This is somewhat (but only somewhat) similar to a parish having First Confessions. I can announce to the parish that “this year’s First Communion class made their first Confessions yesterday” and that doesn’t break the seal (even though everyone knows who they are). Of course, the priest cannot reveal “who” confessed “what.”

The rule about denying the Christian burial only applies to the unrepentant. Once someone repents, then there’s no reason to deny the burial.

When the decisions that the deceased made in his life rise to that level (that burial would cause genuine scandal) the sin itself is already known to the public. When a priest makes general statements like “I heard his confession a few hours before he died” he isn’t actually revealing anything. Sure, people are free to ‘connect the dots’ knowing that there wouldn’t be a Catholic funeral unless the deceased repented; still the priest doesn’t actually list the sins that were confessed.

Sometimes priests say the same thing about people who are known to the public to be very pious persons. A generic comment like “He died peacefully just a few minutes after I heard his confession and gave him Communion” is likewise not violating the Seal.
 
Dude, come on.

I did wonder how Paprocki’s stipulation would work when it comes to deathbed confessions. Like, if a gay man in a gay marriage repents as he dies, can the priest say he died repenting? Wouldn’t that be breaking the seal?

More Catholics need to read Leon Bloy. All I’m saying.
But what if he doesn’t repent? Should he still have a Catholic funeral?

It’s so tricky. Both sides make sense on some level. On one hand, the Church should maintain its integrity with regard to its teachings. But on the other hand, is it harmful to to pray for an unrepentant sinner? Is God displeased if an open and unrepentant sinner receives the same Christian burial as a lifelong devout Catholic? Or is it only elder-brothers-of-prodigal-sons who are displeased?
 
But a public funeral, a public Rite of Christian Burial (especially in the context of the Holy Mass), for an unrepentant person living in a state of manifest grave sin is indeed scandalous.
That’s a totally subjective assessment. You can easily find those who would think it scandalous to deny someone a funeral mass. I agree that the bishop-against-bishop environment is unfortunate, but how do we determine who is “right”? If, in some alternate universe, a rogue Muslim were to give a funeral to an unrepentant sinner after every priest and bishop did their correct religious “duty” by refusing to do one, we would find ourselves right in the middle of the Good Samaritan parable. Which “side” would you want to be in that parable?
 
It’s okay if you disagree with the bishop, but putting words in his mouth in a mocking way is surely against forum rules.
If it’s against the rules then I apologize.

But I definitely think this kind of absolute surrender on moral issues deserves mocking.

Would it have been okay for me to mock Thomas Cranmer?
 
Bishops have the say in their diocese and I can accept both bishops are acting in a way they believe is best for their diocese.

When it comes right down to it there are only very small numbers who are affected.

It would be those who have died, having been living in a same sex marriage in defiance of the church where one bishop is of the opinion that there was no repentance and acceptance of Catholic teaching and the other bishop regardless judges the burial is sought in ‘good faith’.

I am not really sure how the second bishop defines ‘good faith’ when the first bishop ascertains there has been no repentance or acceptance of church teaching.

Perhaps the second bishop means that the ‘partner’ has repented and wants a Catholic funeral for his dead loved one or perhaps he means the family is very Catholic and wishes a funeral for their SSM relative. I am not sure but as said earlier I trust both bishops are acting in what they regard as the best interests of their diocese and I accept that it is both their right and responsibility to do so.
 
I am curious why people are speaking only of deathbeds and funerals. The Bishops letter states: 'We will not refuse sacraments or Christian Burial to anyone who requests them in good faith.

Finally, let us remember and be guided by the words of Pope Francis: “The Eucharist is not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak."

It seems to me that he is referring to any sacrament - including the Eucharist - as well as a Catholic burial.

Or am I reading it mistakenly?
 
It is regarding the first sentence of the quote.
**Recent news reports of policies **and practices related to members of the LGBT community **in other dioceses **can be confusing.
This seems to be referring to Illinois Bishop Thomas Paprocki and his policy specifically including those in SSM causing scandal to the church without repentance.

This policy has generated a lot of discussion, particularly around the issue of Catholic burial.

There is another thread on CAF discussing this titled : **Bishop: Pastors Must Deny Funerals to Catholics in Same-Gender Marriages **

Most people comprehend the good Bishop of San Jose to be reacting to the good bishop of Illonois’ policies and the generated discussions coming from this.
 
FYI, Catholic Answers article from Trent Horn regarding Bishop Thomas Paprocki of Springfield, his stated policies for his diocese and answering criticism of these policies.

Article.
 
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