Bishop R. Walker Nickless Cries For Modesty

[johnq]

Bishop R. Walker Nickless, “We Must Not Settle
for the Vice of Immodesty as the Norm”

Courageous Priest - In our reverence for Christ our Lord, and in our respect for one another, we must not settle for the vice of immodesty as the norm. The virtues of humility and modesty are gifts of the Holy Spirit, part of what we celebrate this Sunday on the Solemnity of Pentecost. Let us be grateful for these gifts and all the gifts of the Holy Spirit. The gifts of the Holy Spirit are rich blessings; let us use them always for the greater honor and glory of God.

In many ways, we live in an immodest society, and the virtue of modesty today is held in very low regard. We are immodest in our speech, and often we look for undue praise when we boast of our achievements and flatter our desires. We are immodest in our eating, most of us eat too much and much of what we eat is unhealthy. We can be immodest in our dress, trying to be fashionable and trendy. We sometimes wear clothes that are dirty or too revealing and immodest even to Mass. Our casual daily summer attire is not appropriate for this great celebration of our faith. Coming to Mass should always be special and we need to dress appropriately for this special time of worship.

Go here for the rest of the Bishop Nickless’ immodesty rant.

Do you know of any other Bishops or Priest that will say this in public?

 

[Bob_Aliano]

On Sunday our pastor spoke at length to the girls and women about modest dress, especially in church. He reminded them that we men don’t go to church expecting to be tempted into sin by the ladies and as a priest, he often didn’t know where to look when some of the women came up for communion because of their revealing dress. Experience tells me his lecture was for naught, we’ll see.

 

[JimG]

It’s been my experience that commenting in any way on women’s fashions is generally a losing proposition.

 

[Scoobyshme]

It’s been my experience that commenting in any way on women’s fashions is generally a losing proposition.

Well, I think it would be a losing proposition on the part of the bishop and his priests to neglect to mention it if it was a problem. Remember, whenever we teach Christ’s truths, His grace accompanies the teaching. And, when that person is going to need those graces, they will be there for them!

I knew a priest once, who was assigned to an “old money” parish in the downtown area, where all the old stuffy ladies used to attend. The pastor was an older man, but very faithful. The young priest gave his first homily and introduced himself. Then, he said he wasn’t there to make anyone feel comfortable, but to tell them what he thought they needed to hear. He said he had heard that the parish had a lot of well to do people in it, but he didn’t care if they never gave another nickel, he was going to preach to them what they needed to hear anyway. The next week, the pastor approached the young priest and gave him a pile of letters complaining about him. He didn’t say anything. He just gave him the letters. The next week, the young priest got up to give his homily and held the letters up and said, “I have your letters, and like I said, I don’t care.” If you get upset by what I say, then maybe you need to rethink how you’re living." They ended up loving him.

 

[Soutane]

Rant?RANT???Who is editorialising here?I saw no “rant” in the quoted material nor no reference to a “rant”.Plesase look up rant in the dictionary and reconsider your choice of words.

 

[Gerry_Hunter]

Rant?RANT???Who is editorialising here?I saw no “rant” in the quoted material nor no reference to a “rant”.Plesase look up rant in the dictionary and reconsider your choice of words.

Second that. The article was brief, articulate, and quite temperate.

Blessings,

Gerry

 

[Sherry_G]

Amen to that Bishop and Bravo! We need to be reminded of all the ways we fall short especially is showing reverence and respect for God in His house of worship. Fashion has gone to the extreme in showing body parts that should be kept covered. I see more and more women going over the line, even those of retirement age for heaven’s sake! And I agree, modesty applies to what comes out of our mouths and how much goes into them, too. My parish priest has no problem speaking out on issues such as this one, praise the Lord. And people do listen, I might add.

This was not a rant, it was a well planned and much needed instruction.

 

[Timothy17]

It’s been my experience that commenting in any way on women’s fashions is generally a losing proposition.

I am thinking perhaps it is the lay men who need to encourage modesty, namely in our relatives and children; likewise, lay woman should encourage modesty in lay men where it is needed. The Church shouldn’t have to tell us not to dress like dirts or “lady” Gaga when attending Church especially. That is common sense. People know better but choose not to.

 

[JimG]

I am thinking perhaps it is the lay men who need to encourage modesty, namely in our relatives and children; likewise, lay woman should encourage modesty in lay men where it is needed. The Church shouldn’t have to tell us not to dress like dirts or “lady” Gaga when attending Church especially. That is common sense. People know better but choose not to.

Well, I can second that motion. I was thinking of several cases in the workplace where questioning what women wore just led to more turmoil among employees.

 

[barb_finnegan]

Well, I think it would be a losing proposition on the part of the bishop and his priests to neglect to mention it if it was a problem. Remember, whenever we teach Christ’s truths, His grace accompanies the teaching. And, when that person is going to need those graces, they will be there for them!

I knew a priest once, who was assigned to an “old money” parish in the downtown area, where all the old stuffy ladies used to attend. The pastor was an older man, but very faithful. The young priest gave his first homily and introduced himself. Then, he said he wasn’t there to make anyone feel comfortable, but to tell them what he thought they needed to hear. He said he had heard that the parish had a lot of well to do people in it, but he didn’t care if they never gave another nickel, he was going to preach to them what they needed to hear anyway. The next week, the pastor approached the young priest and gave him a pile of letters complaining about him. He didn’t say anything. He just gave him the letters. The next week, the young priest got up to give his homily and held the letters up and said, “I have your letters, and like I said, I don’t care.” If you get upset by what I say, then maybe you need to rethink how you’re living." They ended up loving him.

I like that story, Scooby-and I like that priest! One who is not afraid to ruffle any feathers!

Bravo to Bishop Nickless! The Midwest always seems to get the strongest and most outspoken shepherds! Way to go, Your Excellency! Woo Hoo!

 

[wisdomseeker]

Bishop R. Walker Nickless, “We Must Not Settle
for the Vice of Immodesty as the Norm”

Courageous Priest - In our reverence for Christ our Lord, and in our respect for one another, we must not settle for the vice of immodesty as the norm. The virtues of humility and modesty are gifts of the Holy Spirit, part of what we celebrate this Sunday on the Solemnity of Pentecost. Let us be grateful for these gifts and all the gifts of the Holy Spirit. The gifts of the Holy Spirit are rich blessings; let us use them always for the greater honor and glory of God.

In many ways, we live in an immodest society, and the virtue of modesty today is held in very low regard. We are immodest in our speech, and often we look for undue praise when we boast of our achievements and flatter our desires. We are immodest in our eating, most of us eat too much and much of what we eat is unhealthy. We can be immodest in our dress, trying to be fashionable and trendy. We sometimes wear clothes that are dirty or too revealing and immodest even to Mass. Our casual daily summer attire is not appropriate for this great celebration of our faith. Coming to Mass should always be special and we need to dress appropriately for this special time of worship.

Go here for the rest of the Bishop Nickless’ immodesty rant.

Do you know of any other Bishops or Priest that will say this in public?

i can tell one thing about this, there is no such problem in the Traditional Mass. everyone knows exactly how to behave and dress in the House of God.

 

[johnq]

I am sorry, I used the wrong word. This is not a rant. You are correct.

Mea culpa!

 

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