Bishop rebukes Jesuit university for inviting pro-abortion speaker

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Here is the official statement regarding this controversy from the president of the University of Scranton:
A Statement Regarding *Ready to Run *
Kevin P. Quinn, S.J.,
President of the University
The University of Scranton is part of a national network of institutions offering the Ready to Run program. Our workshop on January 28 is open to men and women throughout the region. This non-partisan and non-ideological program gives women the tools they need to run for political office.
In recent days, questions have surfaced about the pro-abortion views of one of the speakers, Marjorie Margolies. Most Reverend Joseph C. Bambera, Bishop of Scranton, asked the University to withdraw its invitation to Ms. Margolies. The University has decided to move forward with the program as planned. Speakers for this University event are experts chosen to provide women with information about the challenges of politics; they are not chosen to engage in a discussion of abortion. By inviting these speakers to campus, the University is not endorsing their personal views.
As Catholic and Jesuit, the University treasures its relationship with the Diocese of Scranton and with Bishop Bambera. We are saddened that any action on our part might in some way compromise this relationship. This is especially true given that we, like Bishop Bambera, strongly oppose the pro-abortion views of Ms. Margolies.
matrix.scranton.edu/news/articles/2012/01/Ready-to-run-statement.shtml

Here is the university’s description of the Ready to Run program
matrix.scranton.edu/academics/ready-to-run/index.shtml
 
Bishop Bambera’s statement regarding the controversy was excerpted in the press release from the Diocese of Scranton
Joseph Bambera:
The gravity of this issue speaks to the heart and substance of who we are as Christians. Because of the incarnation of Christ, every human life has value and worth. As Christians, we must be committed to defending human life at every age and every stage from conception to natural death.

Although a forum such as this, designed to support and encourage women to engage in public service, is by its nature good and noble, for a Catholic institution in the Diocese of Scranton to invite a pro-abortion advocate to speak at a University sponsored event is dismaying and personally disheartening to me. And to do so within days of the annual March for Life in Washington, D.C., is particularly demoralizing.
The University of Scranton has left me with no other choice but to publically express my disapproval of the invitation of this speaker and my concern regarding the University’s evolving relationship with me as Bishop of the Diocese of Scranton. Despite this unfortunate situation, I continue to be open to working with University officials to promote, preserve and strengthen the Catholic character of the University of Scranton.
dioceseofscranton.org/2012/01/13/statement-of-the-diocese-of-scranton-about-the-university-of-scranton%E2%80%99s-decision-to-host-a-pro-abortion-speaker/
 
Point 1: Doesn’t a university have a duty to expose its students to various viewpoints - not with the aim of promoting those viewpoints, but with the aim of giving the student body a chance to see the arguments first hand.

For instance: It’s hard to fight for a position when you don’t know, or don’t understand the points the opposition is making.

We want our young people to be in the world, and not of it, but that doesn’t mean that we have to blindfold the and lead them by the hand. they have to develop a mature faith.

Point 2: disobeying the bishop is a different matter. The University obviously needs to improve it’s lines of communication and level of trust with the bishop. I.e., listen and be seen to be listening.
 
So they can be added to the list with Georgetown, Boston College, and a lot of other Jesuits schools.

Not that they’re all bad.
 
Here is the official statement regarding this controversy from the president of the University of Scranton:

matrix.scranton.edu/news/articles/2012/01/Ready-to-run-statement.shtml

Here is the university’s description of the Ready to Run program
matrix.scranton.edu/academics/ready-to-run/index.shtml
Good point made by the university President: “Speakers for this University event are experts chosen to provide women with information about the challenges of politics; they are not chosen to engage in a discussion of abortion.”
 
There are a lot of quality Catholic universities in northeast PA. I went to school there. Northeast PA is a heavily blue-collar, heavily Catholic (being settled largely by Irish and Italian and Polish and German Catholics) heavily economically-depressed and largely Democrat-voting region. It is comprised of the old JFK-Democrats who are dying off and leaving a bunch of drug-addicts in their place who maintain a nostalgic relationship with their Catholic roots but also publicly oppose the Bishop and the Church on many issues, most notably abortion and sexual morality. It is really sad to see how a region that once so wealthy (spiritually and economically) has fallen so far. There is a lot of spiritual warfare going on in the Wyoming Valley and many Catholic heroes still fighting the good fight up there.
 
Good point made by the university President: “Speakers for this University event are experts chosen to provide women with information about the challenges of politics; they are not chosen to engage in a discussion of abortion.”
There is a pattern of Catholic Universities opposing the Bishop of the Diocese of Scranton.

A similar incident occurred under Bishop Martino. This is from Wikipedia:

"On February 17, 2009, Martino expressed his “absolute disapproval” of Misericordia University having Keith Boykin, a best-selling author and gay rights advocate, speak at its annual dinner and as part of Black History Month.[9] The Bishop described Boykin’s views as “disturbingly opposed” and “antithetical” to Catholic teaching, and stated that “Misericordia University in this instance is seriously failing in maintaining its Catholic identity.”[9]

In response to Martino’s comments, Misericordia University insisted that it “is committed deeply to its Catholic mission. Inseparable from that mission is our identity as an academic institution where ideas and positions are explored critically and freely.”[9] The university also noted that Boykin’s speech was not meant to be a forum for advocacy on a particular issue.

Earlier that month Martino condemned a production of the Eve Ensler play The Vagina Monologues and had the diocese threaten the jobs of two Diocean employees if they were involved in the show. A high school student at Diocese operated Holy Redeemer High School was also threatened with expulsion if she participated."

Bishop Martino also publicly condemned Bob Casey and also threatened to deny Joe Biden Holy Communion if the opportunity should present itself. Sadly, many Catholics in the diocese of Scranton publicly opposed the Bishop. And sadly, there is a pattern emerging in this country of public Catholic opposition to the Bishops. (You know, I always thought those prophecies of a future time in the Church where the Pope and the Bishops would have much to suffer refered to some far away people in some distant land, but the more one watches events unfold the more one realizes that that persecution may come right here at home, in the West.)

If only there were MORE leaders in the Church like Bishops Martino and Bambera.
 
There are a lot of quality Catholic universities in northeast PA. I went to school there. There is a lot of spiritual warfare going on in the Wyoming Valley and many Catholic heroes still fighting the good fight up there.
Same. They may be quality in secular liberal arts, but many are catholic in name only. In fact, I’d argue, the majority of them are.
 
Good point made by the university President: “Speakers for this University event are experts chosen to provide women with information about the challenges of politics; they are not chosen to engage in a discussion of abortion.”
What the university president fails to recognize is that the very action of inviting a person to be a distinguished speaker itself recognizes and enhances that person’s reputation and standing as someone to be listened to.

Presumably the university never chose to educate its students about politics by giving David Duke a platform to discuss the political process, even with the stipulation not to cover his, ahem, controversial positions. That the university treats abortion boosters differently reveals that they consider abortion a lesser issue than racism.
 
How hard is it to find speakers who are not opposed to Catholic teaching?

That is the real issue - this woman did not have to be invited in the first place.
 
How hard is it to find speakers who are not opposed to Catholic teaching?

That is the real issue - this woman did not have to be invited in the first place.
Sure, and the college doesn’t care.

They probably sought her out.
 
What the university president fails to recognize is that the very action of inviting a person to be a distinguished speaker itself recognizes and enhances that person’s reputation and standing as someone to be listened to.

Presumably the university never chose to educate its students about politics by giving David Duke a platform to discuss the political process, even with the stipulation not to cover his, ahem, controversial positions. That the university treats abortion boosters differently reveals that they consider abortion a lesser issue than racism.
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There appears to be more happening behind the scenes : ie. ties with other pro-abortion partners in this purported (ahem … so called) "non-partisan and non-ideological " **Ready to Run ** program .

Former Abortion-Rights Congresswoman to Train Women Politicians at Jesuit University . The real jaw-dropper is that if we check into her bio , we discover she has had a lot of different children in her own family ; according to her WCI site " … She is the mother of a combined family of 11 children and, with the refugee families she has been sponsoring over the years, her household has taken care of 25 children in total."

How a mother like that could be so active in promoting abortion, surely must fit the definition of unconscionable .

By her visit to Scranton University, what do we expect her to teach , in the very least, by way of example ? …

The political soothsayers who downplay what Most Reverend Joseph C. Bambera, Bishop of Scranton is saying ,in my limited opinion, appear similar to those wolves St. Paul spoke of in Acts 20:29-30

" I know that after my departure **savage wolves ** will come among you, and they will not spare the flock. And from your own group, men will come forward perverting the truth to draw the disciples away after them."
 
Here is the official statement regarding this controversy from the president of the University of Scranton:
I see a different picture emerge when that section of the statement quoted above is examined piece by piece :
… Speakers for this University event are experts chosen to provide women with information about the challenges of politics; they are not chosen to engage in a discussion of abortion
  • Ms. Margolies’ very presence speaks of abortion. If that were not true , Bishop Bambera would feel no obligation to point it out … Students are impressionable - they are there to learn. You would pretend that students could somehow remain totally aloof to a subject which she has been so politically outspoken on ?.. Or even better : You would presume that all of the students and that Ms. Margolies herself are willing to pretend together that
    she isn’t in favour of abortion while she speaks there ? -:ouch:
By inviting these speakers to campus, the University is not endorsing their personal views.
  • It is doubtful whether a subject which someone in the public eye has been so politically outspoken on, can be construed as solely her personal view any more . She is a representative - conveying to everyone that abortion is the correct view ; and that it should be their view too. But in actually , abortion is a politically polarizing moral disaster - a failure - one which she endorses , and one which you, by inviting her to speak, tacitly condone - whether inadvertently or not. The students are being taught to *run for politics *- you think they can’t put 2 and 2 together ?
  • His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI said : LINK
“It is necessary to help all people to be aware that the intrinsic evil of the crime of abortion, which attacks human life at its beginning, is also an aggression against society itself.” . By inviting Ms. Margolies, as a teaching body,you impede your students from developing a sense of conviction.
As Catholic and Jesuit, the University treasures its relationship with the Diocese of Scranton and with Bishop Bambera.
  • “Catholic” ?.. :confused: Well, possibly in your own minds. “Treasuring” the “relationship” with Bishop Bambera + ignoring his plea = lip service .
We are saddened that any action on our part might in some way compromise this relationship.
  • Yet it would appear, not “saddened” enough to correct your error . The more crucial point is that you may well be “compromising” the souls of your students - deforming their consciences for the future. That is where Most Reverend Joseph C. Bamberra’s interest as a pastor is focused.
This is especially true given that we, like Bishop Bambera, strongly oppose the pro-abortion views of Ms. Margolies
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  • What is “especially true” is that, unlike Bishop Bambera, you do not strongly oppose Ms. Margolies’ pro abortion views in any tangible way : He requested you withdraw Ms. Margolies’ invitation to speak . You disregard his request. He asked that you oppose strongly by action, and you have answered with indifference and inaction. Over forty million innocent children slain in their mothers’ wombs annually , and you cannot see the wisdom in *not having * a proponent of this slaughter speak at your (ahem) “Catholic” university ? What would you answer if one day all these little ones who have been slain in their mothers’ wombs were to ask why you didn’t heed the Bishop’s valid request ?
What Pope John Paul II said in his ADDRESS TO THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE PONTIFICAL ACADEMY FOR LIFE (Feb. 22,2002) is particularly poignant : He warned us against the

“…grave danger that the false interpretation of human rights poses in not taking into account the reality of human nature, which can drive democratic regimes to transform themselves into totalitarian regimes.

“The distinction sometimes made in certain official documents between a human being and a human person to then apply the right to life and physical integrity only to people who are already born is an artificial distinction without scientific or philosophical foundation,” he said. “Every human being, from his conception to his natural death, has the inviolable right to life and deserves all respect due to the human person.”

That is *abortion and politics *summed up by one of the most profound Catholics of our time. And another profound one, Pope Benedict XVI , called abortion , “an aggression against society itself.”

No way whatsoever :dts: that Ms. Margolies should be invited to speak at the University of Scranton.

There are still 9 days left before January 28 … not too late yet to phone her and cancel.
 
As usually, the problem is that the Jesuits are a Religious Order - the Society of Jesus. They answer to their own Ordinary in matters of discipline, not the Bishop. He can reproach them all he wants, but he can’t censure or discipline them. Until there is serious reform in the Society of Jesus or they get suppressed (again), they can continue to thumb their noses at the secular clergy that make up the greater body of the Church with relative impunity. Same goes for the Congregation of the Holy Cross at Notre Dame.

It’s just important for people to realize that while they are Catholics their dissenting opinions are the opinions of their individual members and in some cases that of their religious order - not the local church (under the Bishop) or the Universal Church (under the Pope). If you aren’t a Jesuit and Fr. Bob, S.J. tells you one thing and Fr. John, priest of the Diocese, tells you otherwise the Diocesan Priest is your authority, not the Religious Priest (unless otherwise stipulated by the Bishop of the Diocese).
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A Jesuit University in Pennsylvania is refusing to obey its Bishop … ignoring orders to cancel the speaking engagement of a pro-abortion politician.
Actually, no it isn’t.

The Jesuits are an “exempt order,” outside of the regular diocesan system. They answer to their Father General, who answers directly to the Pope. They simply aren’t within the local bishop’s authority, except when performing diocesan functions.

Not that I agree with them, but by design of the Popes, the Jesuits answer directly, rather than through the local bishops.

hawk
 
The keynote lecturer for The Ready to Run Campaign Training for Women program on January 28,2012, Marjorie Margolies, served in Congress from 1993 to 1995 and later, acted as director of a PAC committed to electing pro-abortion rights women.
During her two years in office (1993-1995), Ms. Margolies focused on issues affecting women, from abortion to health care.
She co-sponsored the Abortion Clinic Access Bill, which sought to make it a federal crime to impede access to abortion clinics; voted in support of an Abortion Counseling Bill, which would have required federal recipients of funds for family planning to provide patients with information about obtaining an abortion; and opposed the “Hyde Amendment”, which prohibited federal funding of abortions.
“Although a forum such as this, designed to support and encourage women to engage in public service, is by its nature good and noble, for a Catholic institution in the Diocese of Scranton to invite a pro-abortion advocate to speak at a University sponsored event is dismaying and personally disheartening to me. And to do so within days of the annual March for Life in Washington, D.C., is particularly demoralizing.”
 
On the home page of its website, the University of Scranton describes itself as “a nationally recognized Catholic and Jesuit university…”

Well, perhaps not quite.
 
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