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Brian123456
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Thank You for saving me the typing!
Also the new scouts policy does not go against Catholic Teaching. I wish more Catholics would take the time to see this for themselves.
Bishop responds to Boy Scouts' decision on admission of homosexual members [CWN]
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Also the new scouts policy does not go against Catholic Teaching. I wish more Catholics would take the time to see this for themselves.
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Joe_5859
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This is what I keep saying.
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Catherine_S
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I hope the homosexuals who join the Boy Scouts of America will behave in a more decent way than the many who entered the priesthood in our Catholic Church did. Hopefully, the Boy Scouts of America will not* have to **face huge scandals ( as the church has had to face in terms of homosexuality)down the road. *
"In the Diocese of Rockford, 42 scouting units are sponsored by Catholic parishes or organizations. At this time the new standard adopted by the Boy Scouts of America does not seem to provide an obstacle to our continued sponsorship of those troops or of scouting, as long as Catholic principles of morality are followed."
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Followed as they were in the Church!!!
For me, this statement says the Shepherds look the other way when they see the wolf entering the sheep fold :bighanky:!!
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Joe_5859
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I think that’s overstating things.
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Catherine_S
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From what I have seen… and see…this is not an overstatement, Joe…the shepherd’s do not have to look far to see their own past mistakes on this issue!! Personally, If I had young sons in the Boy Scouts at this point in time they would be removed*! *
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Joe_5859
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I’d be very careful about placing yourself in a position of judgement over a bishop on the basis of one statement that you personally disagree with. If he has said something false, then it falls on you to prove it. If he has not spoken falsely, why the insinuations?
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Tigg
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Exactly…each parent must decide what is best for their own and act accordingly less they themselves be guilty of negligence in their moral responsibilities to their children.
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Polycarp1
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Why should the news that the Church is under constant attack be a surprise to anyone? The Roman Catholic Church is Satan’s number one enemy! He is most threatened by it and continually weaves his schemes to undermine and discredit it. Sure the human aspect of the Church will always mess up. But the truth She as the Mystical Body of Christ protects will never be prevailed against regardless of the weaknesses, mistakes and sins of people. The Faith is perfect, the faithful are not.
We can’t deny that the administration of the Church was less than vigilent in admitting homosexual men into the priesthood and in dealing with abuses promply and effectively as were many other organizations. Hopefully we have learned from our mistakes.
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Catherine_S
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Do not try to divert me from my opinion on this matter, Joe!
I have not made a* judgement** on any individual** person or bishop!*
*I have **as much *right to express my Catholic opinion on this matter
*of homosexuality **and the Boy Scouts of America as you or anybody *
*else **does. Forget all the politically correct **and *watch dog stuff going
*on in our day. It is used to silence those who disagree with us! *
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edwest2
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Be informed. This did not go well for the Canadian Scouts when they changed their policy in 1998.
lifesitenews.com/blog/the-boy-scouts-should-learn-the-lessons-of-the-canadian-scouts/
Peace,
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lifesitenews.com/blog/the-boy-scouts-should-learn-the-lessons-of-the-canadian-scouts/
Peace,
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I think it’s the scouts of St. George that are getting rolling due to this particular attack.
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Indifference or promotion of something that is not against Catholic Teaching due solely on one’s inaction against temptation for a very serious sin, is tiptoeing on some extremely thin ice.
As if anyone in this category will be as loud when temptation wins and therefore, they will state they should be kicked out of the group.
There is a reason why they call them slippery slopes.
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Catherine_S
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In the Boy Scouts of America , homosexual child sex abuse happens all too often. There have been over 2,000 cases of abuse.
For example:
Scout leader Brett Tayler was charged with more than* 30 counts of child molestation*** and exploitation. He is suspected of molesting at least 10 boys from ages** 6-9** years old;
Scout leader Peter Robert Stibal II was sentenced to* 21 years*** for sexually abusing four Scouts from 2003 to 2008 and** possessing child pornography**; and
Douglas Smith Jr., who ran the child-abuse prevention program for the Boy Scouts of America , was sentenced to** eight years** in federal prison for** trafficking child pornography** on the Internet.
If such* crimes have already come to the light*** in the Boy Scouts, one must ask why the** radical homosexual lobby **is determined to force the BSA to allow homosexuals to infiltrate their organization.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/blog/the…nadian-scouts/
.At this time he concludes, there does not seem to be an** obstacle** to Catholic sponsorship of** scouting units** in his diocese. However, this bishop also says that more study is being carried out by the U.S. bishops *on this issue. He also says he will be vigilant himself. **This bishop’s official statement is at *www.dioceseofrockford.org/BSA
For example:
Scout leader Brett Tayler was charged with more than* 30 counts of child molestation*** and exploitation. He is suspected of molesting at least 10 boys from ages** 6-9** years old;
Scout leader Peter Robert Stibal II was sentenced to* 21 years*** for sexually abusing four Scouts from 2003 to 2008 and** possessing child pornography**; and
Douglas Smith Jr., who ran the child-abuse prevention program for the Boy Scouts of America , was sentenced to** eight years** in federal prison for** trafficking child pornography** on the Internet.
If such* crimes have already come to the light*** in the Boy Scouts, one must ask why the** radical homosexual lobby **is determined to force the BSA to allow homosexuals to infiltrate their organization.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/blog/the…nadian-scouts/
.At this time he concludes, there does not seem to be an** obstacle** to Catholic sponsorship of** scouting units** in his diocese. However, this bishop also says that more study is being carried out by the U.S. bishops *on this issue. He also says he will be vigilant himself. **This bishop’s official statement is at *www.dioceseofrockford.org/BSA
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Joe_5859
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I’m not trying to divert you in any way from your opinion. You can certainly express your opinion and I can understand why a Catholic would want to leave scouting.
But you said:
For me, this statement says the Shepherds look the other way when they see the wolf entering the sheep fold.
Perhaps I am minsunderstanding you, but this sounds like an accusation against either this individual bishop or the bishops in general that they are looking the other way and allowing an evil element to creep in amongst the faithful. I consider that a pretty serious accusation to level at any bishop or the bishops in general. And serious accusations require concrete proof. Do you really believe that this bishop (or all the bishops) don’t mind turning a blind eye to the evil of the world?
Again, maybe I’m misunderstanding what point you are making and I would happily stand corrected if that is the case.
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Joe_5859
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I don’t at all understand LSN’s use of these examples in building a case against the Boy Scouts. Someone could just as easily switch out the names of the scout leaders and replace them with the names of some Catholic priests who have been convicted of abuse to use as a reason to stay away from the Catholic Church.In the Boy Scouts of America , homosexual child sex abuse happens all too often. There have been over 2,000 cases of abuse.
For example:
Scout leader Brett Tayler was charged with more than* 30 counts of child molestation*** and exploitation. He is suspected of molesting at least 10 boys from ages** 6-9** years old;
Scout leader Peter Robert Stibal II was sentenced to* 21 years*** for sexually abusing four Scouts from 2003 to 2008 and** possessing child pornography**; and
Douglas Smith Jr., who ran the child-abuse prevention program for the Boy Scouts of America , was sentenced to** eight years** in federal prison for** trafficking child pornography** on the Internet.
If such* crimes have already come to the light*** in the Boy Scouts, one must ask why the** radical homosexual lobby **is determined to force the BSA to allow homosexuals to infiltrate their organization.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/blog/the…nadian-scouts/
.At this time he concludes, there does not seem to be an** obstacle** to Catholic sponsorship of** scouting units** in his diocese. However, this bishop also says that more study is being carried out by the U.S. bishops *on this issue. He also says he will be vigilant himself. **This bishop’s official statement is at *www.dioceseofrockford.org/BSA
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Catherine_S
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Do not correct me for your misunderstanding, Joe! *
How about the same method of dealing with these types of issues in the past in the Catholic Church would appear to still** take place with this issue regarding the Boy Scouts of America… I think** protecting*** children must be our most basic concern and** prevention** our **most *important stand as Catholics …I would not use the word evil in the context that you have in your message …how about a very reckless position to take …considering all the material out there on **this issue!! *
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Catherine_S
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Do not correct me for your misunderstanding, Joe!
How about the same method of dealing with these types of issues* in the past in the Catholic Church would appear to still** take place with this issue regarding the Boy Scouts of America… I think** protecting** children must be our most basic concern and** prevention** our most important stand as Catholics …I would not use the word evil in the context that you have in your message …how about a very reckless position to take …considering all the material out there on this issue!! *
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Cat_Herder
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By the way, the NCCS has locked down their Facebook page to all mentions of alternative Scouting organizations, saying that such organizations are “not within our mission.” After censoring their Facebook page they then posted hand-selected posts from four bishops who agree with them, ignoring Bp. Loverde.
If you’re wrong on the issue, just delete everybody who disagrees?
I thought a Scout was supposed to be trustworthy…
It’s time to go, folks.
If you’re wrong on the issue, just delete everybody who disagrees?
I thought a Scout was supposed to be trustworthy…
It’s time to go, folks.
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wavejim
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The past two weeks have been all about damage control. I feel sorry for the adult leaders who have invested years and time into the BSA to see it come to this. I am equally disturbed that the NCCS is playing BSA “supporter”. Is the BSA the only group that the NCCS is affiliated with?
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fix
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Thanks for the link to Bp. Loverde. Glad some bishops are taking a stand.
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