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I have taken the time to read through all 60+ pages of comments and I want to point out a few things.
blog.adw.org/2013/06/always-remember-a-homily-for-the-11th-sunday-of-the-year/
Dave McGrath is in what we call a “conflict of interest” when it deals with the BSA and with him imposing his views on the natural law. The devil seeks to “compromise” each family with sin, and then have the family accept the sin out of a false sense of “peace” and “love”. Dave is not the only one to fall victim. IMO, most families with a homosexual in them are usually very tepid about the situation. They may not like it but accept the situation as it is. They never speak against it in church ministries because if they did, they would be “condemning” a loved one in the same breath. I believe this goes for those families that have a member that use contraception and/or practice fornication, just to name a couple more. These families have a clouded judgment about these sins and either remain silent on them or try to change the Church’s teaching.
This is where we are today. There are so many families that have been compromised with serious sin that one is pretty much looked at as being “judgmental” whenever he steps out and says something controversial.
Satan is winning the fight right now. I know Christ wins in the end but remember, Christ has to return for the victory to be His. We are not and will not win this fight without His return. Revelation tells us that He will return before all of mankind is lost. This is not good and shows that the power of evil will have its way with most. I have heard within and without this thread that “where sin abounds, grace abounds the more”, but this cannot mean what those that use it mean. If it did, then grace would overcome sin and Christ would have no need to return. For me, grace always abounds more than sin, but mankind refuses to use it, submit to Christ, and fails to overcome the sin in his life. So yes, grace abounds more than sin, but sin is chosen more by mankind. I am not advocating throwing in the towel. We must fight for what is God’s and we must start at home, with ourselves and with those whom we steward.
And as the family goes, so does the world. If we want to “right” the world, we have to get back to being families that dedicate our lives and children to God. We have to promote sexual purity, religious vocations, respect for life, and a call to personal holiness. We have got to use “holy boldness” and root these vices out from our families. It will take generations to see a major change in society, but it can be done. Instead of reaching for the “fruit” of this world, we need to seek a supernatural joy that can only be quenched by the Divine Creator.
This needs to be done in humility and with an acceptance of suffering.
Pax Christi
- I like pnewton’s fighting spirit. He wants to preserve/restore what was once an institution that lead boys to be men of God. I understand his position and I wish him all the luck. I disagree with his position but I will no longer try to convince him to abandon his fight.
- I recommend anyone who has not read Dave McGrath’s comments earlier in this thread, to do so. If you have any reservations about the evil that is behind this policy change, his comments should make it very clear.
- The bishops have yet to address how this policy change places a “near occasion of sin” out there for the “gay” troops, or how this may scandalize other young impressionable boys. If the BSA tries to deal with the NOOS (near occasion of sin) issue with new camp guidelines, separating the “gays” from the others, then discrimination lawsuits are bound to happen. If they don’t change the guidelines, then the NOOS issue is very much in play. I am sure the bishops are waiting to see how the camping guidelines will change, if they do, before making a collective decision. My thought is that it does not really matter and that the BSA has put itself in a position where it can’t win. IMO, either way it goes, it will perish.
- Dave McGrath has helped make clear to me what I have considered for some time now. I always wondered how a “re-evangelization” was going to happen with so much sin around, especially when we don’t hear about sin and its consequences anymore. My thought was that Satan has compromised so many families and has clouded their judgment. Dave made a comment about how most people change their attitude towards “gays” when they are personally related to one. This is so true and can be said about any sin or disorder. The human nature is to love but our fallen nature has distorted our understanding of love. One of the reasons Christ died on the cross was to show us how to love, yet we still fail. Our distorted love looks to tolerate people and their sin instead of trying to help separate the person from the sin.
blog.adw.org/2013/06/always-remember-a-homily-for-the-11th-sunday-of-the-year/
Dave McGrath is in what we call a “conflict of interest” when it deals with the BSA and with him imposing his views on the natural law. The devil seeks to “compromise” each family with sin, and then have the family accept the sin out of a false sense of “peace” and “love”. Dave is not the only one to fall victim. IMO, most families with a homosexual in them are usually very tepid about the situation. They may not like it but accept the situation as it is. They never speak against it in church ministries because if they did, they would be “condemning” a loved one in the same breath. I believe this goes for those families that have a member that use contraception and/or practice fornication, just to name a couple more. These families have a clouded judgment about these sins and either remain silent on them or try to change the Church’s teaching.
This is where we are today. There are so many families that have been compromised with serious sin that one is pretty much looked at as being “judgmental” whenever he steps out and says something controversial.
Satan is winning the fight right now. I know Christ wins in the end but remember, Christ has to return for the victory to be His. We are not and will not win this fight without His return. Revelation tells us that He will return before all of mankind is lost. This is not good and shows that the power of evil will have its way with most. I have heard within and without this thread that “where sin abounds, grace abounds the more”, but this cannot mean what those that use it mean. If it did, then grace would overcome sin and Christ would have no need to return. For me, grace always abounds more than sin, but mankind refuses to use it, submit to Christ, and fails to overcome the sin in his life. So yes, grace abounds more than sin, but sin is chosen more by mankind. I am not advocating throwing in the towel. We must fight for what is God’s and we must start at home, with ourselves and with those whom we steward.
And as the family goes, so does the world. If we want to “right” the world, we have to get back to being families that dedicate our lives and children to God. We have to promote sexual purity, religious vocations, respect for life, and a call to personal holiness. We have got to use “holy boldness” and root these vices out from our families. It will take generations to see a major change in society, but it can be done. Instead of reaching for the “fruit” of this world, we need to seek a supernatural joy that can only be quenched by the Divine Creator.
This needs to be done in humility and with an acceptance of suffering.
Pax Christi