Bishop rips hospital chain, threatens to revoke Catholic status of hospital [CWN]
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JimG
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Bishop Olmstead used to be Bishop of the Wichita Kansas diocese. It was a lot less trouble than Phoenix.
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mlund
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I have to say, I’m really proud of my Bishop’s action in this case. Catholic Healthcare West needs to get its head screwed on straight. This isn’t a secular business that keeps the trappings of saints and nuns laying about. This is a uniquely Catholic non-profit engaging in the practice of medicine, supposedly with the moral surety of obedience to the instructions of to our Holy, Apostolic Church.
Honestly, I think it is a travesty that the overwhelming body of our Catholic Hospitals and Universities aren’t held as subsidiaries of our local Ordinaries or the Holy See. Their loyalties should be unimpeachable and their obedience assured. Then there would be no further shenanigans and scandal could be remedied directly.
Honestly, I think it is a travesty that the overwhelming body of our Catholic Hospitals and Universities aren’t held as subsidiaries of our local Ordinaries or the Holy See. Their loyalties should be unimpeachable and their obedience assured. Then there would be no further shenanigans and scandal could be remedied directly.
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DawnInTexas
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Thanks Be To God !!!
God Bless you!
+Peace On Earth, Good Will Toward Men.
Love, Dawn
God Bless you!
+Peace On Earth, Good Will Toward Men.
Love, Dawn
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TBolt1000T
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Great to see Bishop Olmstead laying down the law, and doing what a bishop is supposed to do! God bless him!
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the_phoenix
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God bless Bishop Olmstead!
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Timothy17
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Now that’s a Bishop
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Brendan
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They would have had to really look to find a more dissenting ‘theologian’ on Church teaching in this matter that Lysaught.
They really were trying to justify a decision, not make an informed one. Otherwise they would have gone to Dr. Janet Smith.
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TBolt1000T
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Just wondering, since that hospital provided an abortion, would all of it’s staff be automaticly excommunicated, or just the people who were directly involved in the abortion?
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laszlo
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I agree the action of the bishop. See some details below
ncregister.com/blog/what_are_the_true_facts_regarding_the_abortion_approving_nun/
azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/2010/05/14/20100514stjoseph0515bishop.html
However I strongly disagree with the originally quoted article, which is a Republican Action Committee statement, including President Obama and his health-care reform, which has nothing top do with the case
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JimR-OCDS
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As I understand it, only those directly involved and at that the level of excommunication was latae sententiae, or self imposed excommunication.
Latae sententiae excomminication is removed through the confessional.
However, this story only became public because it leaked out that the Catholic Hospital had performed an abortion, so the Bishop was asked and he confirmed that, Sr. McBride, had excommunicated herself, latae sententiae.
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Snugglebugmom
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:clapping: Excellent! It is about time that something is done about Catholic hospitals that blatantly go against the teachings of the Church. I have read (in one of the threads on the Ask an Apologist forum, if I remember correctly) about a Catholic hospital that offers In Vitro Fertilization. 
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3DOCTORS
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Oh, I dunno. We had a notorious abortion mill here and sad to say we are going to get a new abortion clinic.
The good news for Phoenix: Bishop Olmsted rocks!
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Musicadmirer
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My family has much experience with this organization. I fail to see how it could have been referred to as “Catholic” to begin with. This is something that all bishops that have a CHW facility in their diocese should demand of them. Falsely representing yourselves as religiously affiliated is a BIG no-no in my book. I have no doubt that it is a big no-no in God’s Book as well.
In a response to a 2002 emergency contraception bill, CHW made it clear that it’s stance was based on the USCCB’s Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services, which states the following:
“compassionate and understanding care should be given to a person who is the victim of sexual assault. Health care providers should cooperate with law enforcement officials and offer the person psychological and spiritual support as well as accurate medical information. A female who has been raped should be able to defend herself against a potential conception from the sexual assault. If, after appropriate testing, there is no evidence that conception has occurred already, she may be treated with medications that would prevent ovulation, sperm capacitation, or fertilization. It is not permissible, however, to initiate or to recommend treatments that have as their purpose or direct effect the removal, destruction, or interference with the implantation of a fertilized ovum.”
In a response to a 2002 emergency contraception bill, CHW made it clear that it’s stance was based on the USCCB’s Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services, which states the following:
“compassionate and understanding care should be given to a person who is the victim of sexual assault. Health care providers should cooperate with law enforcement officials and offer the person psychological and spiritual support as well as accurate medical information. A female who has been raped should be able to defend herself against a potential conception from the sexual assault. If, after appropriate testing, there is no evidence that conception has occurred already, she may be treated with medications that would prevent ovulation, sperm capacitation, or fertilization. It is not permissible, however, to initiate or to recommend treatments that have as their purpose or direct effect the removal, destruction, or interference with the implantation of a fertilized ovum.”
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3DOCTORS
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I’m reminded of a quotation I heard somewhere about JPII on his first visit to the U.S. - I think it was a farmer maybe, just a down-to-earth fellow, who said “He really knows how to Pope!”
Well, Bishop Olmsted really knows “how to Bishop”!:extrahappy:
Well, Bishop Olmsted really knows “how to Bishop”!:extrahappy:
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Snugglebugmom
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Boy howdy, does he! God bless him, all the days of his life!
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3DOCTORS
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It’s just so refreshing to see genuine courage and zeal for truth and righteousness in action!
May his example inspire others to do likewise.
May his example inspire others to do likewise.
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Corki
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No longer a threat. It appears that time ran out and the Bishop striped the hospital of its Catholic status. He was incredibly patient, trying to work with them for seven years. The abortion incident was only the latest in a long series of actions inconsistent with the Church’s teaching.
More here:
ncregister.com/blog/bishop-strips-abortion-hospital-of-catholic-status
More here:
ncregister.com/blog/bishop-strips-abortion-hospital-of-catholic-status
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Medic_Mark
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Will this have any real impact upon the hospital at all? Will they see a funding drop, a loss of non-profit status? I don’t imagine they will change their name.
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