Bishop Robert Carlson - Sioux Falls

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Singerlady,

I will pray for your pastor to have a change of heart. A man of God needs to be one who is willing to follow the people who lead him, and in example, his parishioners will follow him! (my sheep know my voice…)

The Sioux Falls Diocese is adjusting. We are still seeing priests shaking heads during the Eucharistic prayer. With the death of our Holy Father and the appointment of the WONDERFUL BENEDICT XVI it was a time of major transition! Our priest here at the Newman Center has finally gotten used to it, but it has taken time!

Bishop Aquila is a great Apostolic Adminstrator and has issued all his documents for both dioceses. Since Fargo is directly north of us, he has a stright line with I-29 running From the Canadian border through Nebraska, and with both Diocesean See’s on this Interstate makes it easier for him as well! He is a very Holy Bishop who definitely has control of both Diocese and we couldn’t be happier for the time being. We pray for a bishop who will be very orthodox! We won’t play the Comparing games (Untener Vs. Carlson, etc) we will just let him be who he is, Our Bishop!

The only fear people have here is that they could get an Untener who will stray from the GIRM and form the way things should be done.

Pray for us as we await a Holy and Orthodox bishop, maybe a priest from our own fold! Pope Benedict knows the church and in a sense has already been running it before his election. We know we are in GREAT hands!

“Thou art Peter and on this Rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hell will NOT prevail against it!”
 
Amen!

I will pray that you are as blessed as we have been.
Oh, and if you’re a hunter, I need to warn you that Bishop Carlson was asked how he plans to build up the pheasant population in this diocese. His answer was that he would have all of his Sioux Falls hunter friends send over their roosters. You gotta love the guy. LOL!
 
Anna Elizabeth:
Dear singerlady,

Yes, I will pray for your parish and for the whole state of Michigan, I think!

It is quite possible that your pastor is especially upset given the choice the cardinals made!
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Yep, you’re right.
Do keep a written record of all the things that are happening, with dates, names of other people who were there, etc. For starters, you could review your posts - a running commentary on the abuses.

I am sure you will know when the time is right, and this way, you will also have orderly “talking points” and won’t get rattled!

God bless, 🙂

Anna
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Good advice. I am making my list. It’s scary how long it is. Multiply that by most of the parishes in the Saginaw diocese and we see the magnitude of the task ahead of our new bishop.
 
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singerlady:
Amen!

I will pray that you are as blessed as we have been.
Oh, and if you’re a hunter, I need to warn you that Bishop Carlson was asked how he plans to build up the pheasant population in this diocese. His answer was that he would have all of his Sioux Falls hunter friends send over their roosters. You gotta love the guy. LOL!
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We will be praying that your pheasant population is very sparse… that way we get Bishop back here at least once a year.
 
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singerlady:
Yep, you’re right.

Good advice. I am making my list. It’s scary how long it is. Multiply that by most of the parishes in the Saginaw diocese and we see the magnitude of the task ahead of our new bishop.
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Most people from the Saginaw Diocese are reading this Thread. You can multiply things all you want, but there are only a few of you in the parishes that have all these issues. Every bishop has a magnitude of tasks ahead of him, but Bishop Carlson’s are no more so than our previous bishops have had. He is fitting in just fine and I have read in the newspapers that our pheasant population has greatly increased over the past few years.
 
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Flower:
Most people from the Saginaw Diocese are reading this Thread.
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I’m curious as to how you know this.
You can multiply things all you want, but there are only a few of you in the parishes that have all these issues.
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And also how you know this
I have read in the newspapers that our pheasant population has greatly increased over the past few years.
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Good to know. Sorry, Fr. Todd. 😉
 
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Flower:
Most people from the Saginaw Diocese are reading this Thread. You can multiply things all you want, but there are only a few of you in the parishes that have all these issues. Every bishop has a magnitude of tasks ahead of him, but Bishop Carlson’s are no more so than our previous bishops have had. He is fitting in just fine and I have read in the newspapers that our pheasant population has greatly increased over the past few years.
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Good for your pheasants. We will still pray he comes back once a year at least.
 
Singerlady–I’m praying for you and your situation, as well. The Holy Spirit will let you know when the time is right to approach your pastor…and your bishop. You are a spiritually grounded woman, and I have no doubt that God will give you the right words to say when the time comes.

And don’t be surprised if you find that the Bishop heard what God needed him to hear, in spite of how the meetings sounded to others!

Remember what Blessed Theresa of Calcutta said…God doesn’t ask us to be successful, He only asks us to be faithful. You are a faithful Catholic. Thanks for being there for the others who need you so in your parish and diocese.
 
smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_4_19v.gifPssst! Singerlady - I think people in the Saginaw Diocese are hanging round this thread! Know what I heard? Bishop Carlson has been making the rounds and the word is - we like him a lot! We thank him for coming as the answer to our prayers. Now most of us that like him SOOO MUCH heard what he said and believe. He said the the Holy Mass will be celebrated in accordance with the General Instruction of the Roman Missal!!! That means the BBU (Bread Baker’s Union) will be out of a job, because that recipe they can’t seem to let go of is not valid! The Good Bishop also stated that the Homily is to be given by the priest who is celebrating the Mass not by the laity (and in this case - the nun-pastoral administrator and the laity and the laity’s kid. So far what he has clearly stated has not been implemented but we are lurking - waiting to be able to go back to our parish church. We have been in exile for eight years and the cost of gasoline has become a threat to our patient endurance.smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_112.gifsmileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_112.gif
 
I just had to comment to you guys about something I saw at a first Eucharist celebration this weekend. Of course, the bread is made with wheat, honey, baking powder, etc, - I think you all know the receipe by now. Anyway, someone on this forum argued at one point that the composition of the bread was a minor issue and we shouldn’t worry about it too much. I have always disagreed, but I finally noticed something this weekend that really seals it.
During communion, there was no mention at all about whether non-Catholics should take the Eucharist in our church. Therefore, after all the first Eucharist children were done, everyone was allowed to do so. (I knew several of the protestants that were attending with their families).
Now, the point of this rambling message has to do with the reality of Jesus in the Eucharist, and the composition of the bread. Anyone who has taken this bread knows it is somewhat crumbly - so it has to be carefully eaten to not miss anything. I finally noticed, starting with a couple of protestant friends, but also among many of the Catholics as well, that one of the first things that is done after taking the bread in the hand and eating it is to wipe the hands together (presumably to get the few crumbs on the hands off). Since everyone goes in the same direction, I kept getting an image of Jesus being trampled on over and over again, and it saddened me. That is something that would never happen with a proper communion wafer.
Maybe I’m overeacting here - let me know if I am. However, our priest sent out a memo to all us parishoners that church attendance is down, and he wanted (name removed by moderator)ut as to what we think the reason is. I think I would start with an apparent lack of reverence for the reality of Jesus in the bread. If we weren’t so non-chalant about it (especially to our youth), maybe people would have more of a yearning to come to mass each week. Thanks for listening.
God Bless, MBS1
 
MBS1,

You are most certainly not over-reacting. In fact, you hit the nail on the head.

Whether this sort of thing happens in many parishes or in only one, it is tragic. It makes me sad to think that those poor children still have not received their first Holy Communion.
 
MBS1 -
I have noticed the same thing with the Body of Christ - the wiping of the hands - and this is by Catholics. Another thing, not related to the composition of the host, but just as troubling is the chewing of gum. I see people sitting in the pews chewing gum. I see them going to Communion, I see them chewing gum on the way out of church. Aside from the fact that people seem to have forgotten that we are still supposed to fast one hour before receiving Communion, one wonders if it is the same piece of gum from beginning to end of mass.

We received that same memo. It came about because there were supposed to be representative “grass roots” meetings at the diocesan center and only a few people were showing up. The sad thing is that the people who are not in attendance were not there to fill out the memo and tell us why they left. The time period that was tracked was from 2000 to 2004. Hmmm, let’s see. What happened during that time period? In 2002 we had the scandal in the priesthood. In Saginaw we lost 2 priests - the matter was not handled well. People were angry. I think that Bishop Untener suffered more over this then he ever let on. I truly think he would still be alive but for the scandal.

Anyway, sorry to hijack. I got sidetracked by the memo thing.
 
I don’t know how much room is left on this thread but I would sure like the subject to continue. Our local church is now using two types of bread for the Holy Eucharist, the white hosts and the home made invalid bread - woe is me!
Evidently its in response to being informed the bread was wwrrrronngg! smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_200v.gif
 
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grotto:
I don’t know how much room is left on this thread but I would sure like the subject to continue. Our local church is now using two types of bread for the Holy Eucharist, the white hosts and the home made invalid bread - woe is me!
Evidently its in response to being informed the bread was wwrrrronngg! smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_200v.gif
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We use both types also. The white hosts are the backup in case we run out of the homemade.
 
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grotto:
I think people in the Saginaw Diocese are hanging round this thread! Know what I heard? Bishop Carlson has been making the rounds and the word is - we like him a lot!
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Grotto,
You’re right about people of the Saginaw Diocese hanging around…I’m hopeful that Bishop Carlson will require that all churches follow the GIRM, so I won’t have to drive outside the diocese anymore.

As strange as it may seem, my DH and I don’t attend the same Catholic Church, but Easter Sunday we attended his church because the Bishop was there. And wouldn’t you know that instead of the usual ‘please pass the jam’ whole wheat bread, they had hosts! I’ll have to ask DH if they’ve gone back to the homemade stuff. Still, they don’t sing the Gloria or recite the Creed and Sister gives the homily.

At one time I was attending a church that followed the GIRM very closely, but that changed when they got a new priest. Now they have what I call a McMass–45 minutes tops.

I look forward to hearing more about the positive changes in the Saginaw Diocese.
 
*It came about because there were supposed to be representative “grass roots” meetings at the diocesan center and only a few people were showing up. The sad thing is that the people who are not in attendance were not there to fill out the memo and tell us why they left. *

FYI: about 190 people attended the gathering (2 folks from each parish) and they were asked to get feedback from the folks in the pews!
 
Hestia said:
*It came about because there were supposed to be representative “grass roots” meetings at the diocesan center and only a few people were showing up. The sad thing is that the people who are not in attendance were not there to fill out the memo and tell us why they left. *

FYI: about 190 people attended the gathering (2 folks from each parish) and they were asked to get feedback from the folks in the pews!
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I’m sorry. We were misinformed. Our representative said that only 20 people were at the last meeting.
 
The point I was trying to make is this. If you want to know why people have left, ask the people who left.
 
Singerlady:

We now know for sure what we suspected: Your pastor has no use for the Holy See’s Instruction on the Eucharist (Redemptionis Sacramentum). I’m wondering what he thinks of Vatican II’s Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy (Sacrosanctum Concilium) which says: “Regulation of the sacred liturgy depends solely on the authority of the Church . . . Therefore, absolutely no other person, not even a priest may add, remove, or change anything in the liturgy on his own authority.” Maybe he has not gotten around to reading it yet! After all, it has only been in print since 1966. Then again, by HIS way of thinking, it appears to be “egocentric” and dictatorial so why read it much less follow it.

Pastors such as yours, remind me of South American dictators who, until they obtain power over people, cry out “the people, the people, power to the people.” Then, after they and their followers attain power, everthing has to be done THEIR way, and God have mercy on the legitimate rights of the people.

Your pastor also reminds me of someone who is in an arrested state of adolescense. We know that adolescents generally have a problem with authority. They don’t understand why things can’t always be done THEIR way. Such people lack the emotional maturity to have authority over anybody. Sorry to observe, there are more than a few of these types pastoring parishes.
 
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