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River Glorious:
Be still my heart!
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CatholicSam
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Anna Elizabeth:
We’re STILL doing very well, thank you!
We’ve been blessed to have two wonderful bishops during our 2 and a half years in the Archdiocese of Atlanta so far
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And a year after Wilton Gregory became our Bishop…I’d be happier about Bishop Carlson, than I am about Bishop Gregory newly sent to Atlanta, an archdioces that was doing very well!
We’re STILL doing very well, thank you!
We’ve been blessed to have two wonderful bishops during our 2 and a half years in the Archdiocese of Atlanta so far
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Such good news! I only hope that he continues to allow the FSSP Church in Mableton to grow. At least he didn’t come in and immediately stop it. In our diocese we can’t have the Legionaries, and I don’t think the FSSP has ever asked to come in.And a year after Wilton Gregory became our Bishop…
We’re STILL doing very well, thank you!
We’ve been blessed to have two wonderful bishops during our 2 and a half years in the Archdiocese of Atlanta so far
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Did you have another Eucharistic Conference this year? If so, was it well attended?
God bless,
Anna PS. And at last we may hear from Bishop Carlson! c.
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CatholicSam
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Anna Elizabeth:
I am unfamiliar with “FSSP” though. What does that stand for and what does it mean? Our family belongs to the Legion of Mary as auxilliary members. Is this something similar?
Anna, the Eucharistic Congress was a wonderful success again this year, although with a 6 month old baby, we were unable to attend. We even heard some priests on EWTN highly praising the Congress!
I am unfamiliar with “FSSP” though. What does that stand for and what does it mean? Our family belongs to the Legion of Mary as auxilliary members. Is this something similar?
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It is an order of Priests… The Priestly Fraternity of St Peter.Anna, the Eucharistic Congress was a wonderful success again this year, although with a 6 month old baby, we were unable to attend. We even heard some priests on EWTN highly praising the Congress!
I am unfamiliar with “FSSP” though. What does that stand for and what does it mean? Our family belongs to the Legion of Mary as auxilliary members. Is this something similar?
You can google FSSP
The rector of the seminary of our Lady of Guadalupe - Fr Jackson - and an order priest - Fr Riggerger have both said the TLM at the local Catholic Law School. Fr. Ripperger also writes for the LatinMass Magazine. The order is VERY orthodox, and celebrates the Traditional Latin Mass with full Vatican approval, and in an awesome degree of reverence… a little bit of heaven.
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Anna_Elizabeth
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Catholic Sam, I will pm you in a day or so, because I don’t want to derail the Bishop Carlson thread (that I honestly think I answered months ago exactly when it started! Hard to believe it’s gone on so long!). Meanwhile, the Mr. S. answer is a good brief description.
I should have time early in the week.
Anna
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CatholicSam
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In that case, Anna, you must mean the St. Francis De Sales parish in Mableton, GA. You can visit their website at www.francisdesales.com if you like. The parish is alive and well
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FatherTodd
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A fine point but worth making… I believe what you mean to say is they are very conservative. There are not differing degrees of orthdoxy. You are orthdox or you are heterodox.
A FSSP priest can be orthodox or he can be heterodox. The same is true with a priest that says mass in the Novus Ordo.
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River Glorious:
This is certainly great news. I pray that the priests and lay people of the diocese accept what the Bishop says with open hearts.
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MICATH
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River Glorious:
Has anyone heard if this meeting took place? I am assuming it did since Mass was cancelled yesterday for our grade school. If it did take place, has anyone any insite as too what took place?
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frommi
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This would be the latest statement from the liturgy office:
Given the fact that we are still exploring the General Instruction on the Roman Missal and its implementation here in the Diocese of Saginaw, we would encourage parishes to refrain from any liturgical ministry formation sessions until a full scope and sequence of interpretation and implementation is determined. Obviously, there will be a need for general and ministerial catechesis following this conversation and plan for implementation. In the interim, should you wish to gather liturgical ministers, you might consider an Advent or Lenten Day of Reflection. If we can be of assistance to you in this regard, please consult the Office of Liturgy.
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Hi,
What is the date of that statement?
What is the date of that statement?
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frommi
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It’s from the December diocesan newsletter.
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saggal
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My understanding is that the good Bishop has ended the practice of pastoral associates homilizing at Mass.
And did anyone notice the announcement in the Catholic Weekly a couple weeks back that the Book Nook will close, then reopen under the auspices of A-M Church supply?
And did anyone notice the announcement in the Catholic Weekly a couple weeks back that the Book Nook will close, then reopen under the auspices of A-M Church supply?
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frommi
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The book nook was losing a ton of money from what I have heard.
As for the homilizing thing, I’m not surprised at this at all. Frankly, (and don’t blast me for this) I was never all that impressed with the quality of the homilies given by the pastoral associates. Too many talented priests were sitting on the sidelines during these homilies.
that being said, I can appreciate where some weeks it would be difficult for a priest to craft a good homily.
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ekindermann
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I heard they had some pretty “out there” materials in stock (but having never been there myself that’s only heresay.)
As for “crafting a good homily” I’d rather hear a poorly crafted homily from a priest (ordained for giving such homilies) than one of the most wonderfully crafted homilies by the lay ministers. I’ll trust the Holy Spirit to guide the priest in crafting his homilies.
Saggal, How did you hear that the bishop ended this practice? The reason I ask is because when he was here for main street meetings, he told them they weren’t to be doing it, but they continued anyway.
God Bless! Beth K.
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LOL Woe to the man who ignores a direct instruction from Bishop Carlson. He has a quiet pastoral manner where he will exhaust education, cajoling, private discussion before he comes down with the hammer. But when he does, OH MY GOSH!
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problem, it’s a woman, not a man.
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Beth:
My understanding is that he announced it at the Nov. 30 meeting. Our pastoral associate mentioned it at a meeting.
During the Main Street sessions, the Bishop was listening to concerns, but made clear (at least at ours) that he wouldn’t take any action until he was here at least six months.
So what he may have been saying is that the practice was against church teaching, but at that point, he wasn’t telling pastors to stop it.
Personally, I have no problem listening to someone else give the homily, but it did bother me to know that it wasn’t supposed to happen.
On the other hand, we no longer have to sit through the messages from one of our pastoral associates, who always used the pulpit to let us know we didn’t measure up to her standards.
Of course, her standards leave a LOT to be desired.
My understanding is that he announced it at the Nov. 30 meeting. Our pastoral associate mentioned it at a meeting.
During the Main Street sessions, the Bishop was listening to concerns, but made clear (at least at ours) that he wouldn’t take any action until he was here at least six months.
So what he may have been saying is that the practice was against church teaching, but at that point, he wasn’t telling pastors to stop it.
Personally, I have no problem listening to someone else give the homily, but it did bother me to know that it wasn’t supposed to happen.
On the other hand, we no longer have to sit through the messages from one of our pastoral associates, who always used the pulpit to let us know we didn’t measure up to her standards.
Of course, her standards leave a LOT to be desired.
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ekindermann
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Yes- I know- and instead of doing what is right (stopping immediately) they kept going until they were (are) directly told to stop - like insolent children.
Like I really want to hear a homily from someone who is being obviously disobedient to the church. Like you, I sit there with that nagging thought in the background the whole time I am trying to concentrate on the Mass. This is true also for other disobedient acts that take place during the Eucharistic Prayers, the Consecration, etc, etc.
It turned me into the liturgy police - which, although some think I like being - I REALLY do not! I guess God just made some of us with a temperament that is more inclined to notice/scrutinize/be bothered by disobedience/indiscretions/wrong doings, whatever you want to call them. I pray to not be so scrutinizing, I close my eyes through much of the mass, trying to concentrate on praying for others and myself, adoring God, not catching every little “whatever” that happens to float by my eyes (a little ADD probably mixed in there too, iow the difficulty in concentrating).
As for the message they choose to preach about it may be good or bad, but no matter because I know they aren’t supposed to be “homilizing” and I KNOW THEY KNOW, that takes all their credibility and trustworthiness away. If a church “leader” thinks it is ok to disobey, then what else will they choose to disobey about? Where is the line drawn then? Unfortunately, I’ve seen the fruits of this behavior over and over and over. It is all bad fruit.
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