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Bishop says tighter gun laws will help build culture of life
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Prodigal_Son1
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I pray in preparation, that I never have to face such an instance. I don’t plan in advance to kill someone. Christ said if you think it, you have done it. Christ never told us to prepare to kill others, or that He, or His Church, needs protection from men.
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buffalo
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Agreed.
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CaptFun
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Gun laws?*** Instead ***of Bishops? 
Breaking story: “New gun law has abortion clinics closing in droves!” < Don’t see it. :nope:
I’m a non-gun-owner Catholic but I propose a (silly) compromise to keep the peace:
The Church should manufacture guns under the brand name “Sword*.”
“Sword and Cloak Set” (plastic bullets or marshmallows not included)
- **“Please send us more clerics who teach of you … and shepherd our Dioceses.
To pick up the slack for the ones out Social Crusading with the politicians” **
Breaking story: “New gun law has abortion clinics closing in droves!” < Don’t see it. :nope:
I’m a non-gun-owner Catholic but I propose a (silly) compromise to keep the peace:
The Church should manufacture guns under the brand name “Sword*.”
Come to think of it, maybe the Church can buy stock in a cloak making enterprise to help the flock clear the preliminaries.
- Per the Bishop’s counsel the new “Sword” will be a “tighter gun”! :doh2:
“Sword and Cloak Set” (plastic bullets or marshmallows not included)
- **“Please send us more clerics who teach of you … and shepherd our Dioceses.To pick up the slack for the ones out Social Crusading with the politicians” **
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LilyM
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He also said that he that lives by the Sword™ shall die by the Sword™.Gun laws?*** Instead ***of Bishops?
Breaking story: “New gun law has abortion clinics closing in droves!” < Don’t see it. :nope:
I’m a non-gun-owner Catholic but I propose a (silly) compromise to keep the peace:
The Church should manufacture guns under the brand name “Sword*.”
Come to think of it, maybe the Church can buy stock in a cloak making enterprise to help the flock clear the preliminaries.
http://i.tfcdn.com/img2/i4OfA0oAY5r...nl5yfq4-RETfU9_EMNXA083RKEnXRy-rIB0A/fyVMtP8A
- Per the Bishop’s counsel the new “Sword” will be a “tighter gun”! :doh2:
“Sword and Cloak Set” (plastic bullets or marshmallows not included)
To pick up the slack for the ones out Social Crusading with the politicians” **
The real question is do you want that to be everyone or just you?
I am sure Jesus would never have been a member of Israel’s NSA (National Sword Association) pushing for pretty well no limits to Sword™ ownership.
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LilyM
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I do more - I neither plan to kill someone nor plan to have available to me means to do so where I can avoid it. So guns are certainly out for the household, as are cyanide and arsenic as well as nukes and such
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Fairwinds
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Fairwinds
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politics is the ultimate game, and the gun grabbers lost. the president was the victim of bad timing. a sour economy, North Korea, the Boston bombers all sideswiped the momentum he had from exploiting the CT shootings. and with the coming election cycle, he’s never get enough congressional or senate votes to grab.That’s an exaggeration. They were considering banning specific types of guns, and establishing stricter requirements for background checks. There’s no winning, or losing. It’s not a game.
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Fairwinds
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you think those 844 pages are a big deal? “the Secretary shall determine” means the Title 8, Code of Federal Regulations increase by 8,440 pages as an unelected official publishes immigration regulations written by pro-immigrant lobbyists.
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LilyM
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Their faith didn’t prevent their deaths, no. But then neither did the guns of those Jews who fought in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising either
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Fairwinds
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you’ll have to explain how God works to Prodigal, who is somewhat misinformed.Their faith didn’t prevent their deaths, no. But then neither did the guns of those Jews who fought in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising either
regarding the Warsaw Uprising, apparently our CCC does not approve.
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LilyM
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Well, prodigal is right in that God would rather we trust in Him for our wellbeing than turn our minds and homes into armed fortresses and ourselves into either cowering messes of paranoid terror or falsely-macho gun-totin John Wayne wannabes.
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Fairwinds
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are you talking about the Warsaw Jews? or instances where citizens have, justifiably under the CCC, used firearms to protect their families?
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CaptFun
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Good point. Don’t live by the sword - yet have one. I can follow that distinction.
If just me had a gun, that’d be great. I don’t even want one. But there might come a time when I wish I had one … if only to scare bad guys away.
The Joe Biden Method if you will. Lol. However a guy in Canada that tried that (shooting to scare people away who were firebombing his HOUSE no less!) is in trouble with the courts! THAT is a head scratcher!
news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/31/firebombs-left-no-choice-homeowner-tells-gun-trial/
kpeople: -" NEXT time someone firebombs you in the middlle of the night just take it like a MAN! "Update: Learned the most serious charges were dropped. Police have since seen tapes showing figures throwing the bombs and cursing. Some Canadian politicians are proposing additional “castle laws” enumerating broader limits of self-defence when defending one’s home from a hostile attack.
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LilyM
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The Warsaw Jews were doomed to fail from the start. Their uprising amounted to suicide by German soldiery (for those of us familiar with the term ‘suicide by cop’)
Like I said before, if you are a crack shot with something more than a smowflake’s chance in hell of successfully stopping that attacker, you’re more than welcome to do so. I’ll recommend you for a bravery award even.
I am under no obligation, and moreover have no wish, to employ firearms whilst fulfilling my duty to defend myself and my loved ones.
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LilyM
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To be fait, the prosecutors ditched all offences related to his actual use of the firearms in his defence quick smart PDQ. He was perfectly allowed to shoot at the attackers so it was not a question of his being in trouble for using the weapon.Good point. Don’t live by the sword - yet have one. I can follow that distinction.
If just me had a gun, that’d be great. I don’t even want one. But there might come a time when I wish I had one … if only to scare bad guys away.
The Joe Biden Method if you will. Lol. However a guy in Canada that tried that (shooting to scare people away who were firebombing his HOUSE no less!) is in trouble with the courts! THAT is a head scratcher!
news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/31/firebombs-left-no-choice-homeowner-tells-gun-trial/
The problem is his improper storage of said weapons. What is wrong with pressing those charges? Gun ownership brings responsibilities, including the responsibility to store said firearms safely when not in use. Would you like yourself or your grandchild to be in a household where guns were stored in a manner dangerous to you or to them?
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Fairwinds
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I honor the memory of the Jews who died in the Warsaw Uprising, CCC notwithstanding. I don’t think I could explain why in terms that would make sense to you.
I’d stop my daughter’s would-be rapist with a gunshot. if you’d choose different, its not for me to criticize or question your motives.
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CaptFun
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You are faster than I was in catching that.
Note my update.Your additional info is interesting - but I’m still ticked at the Police. HE called them and had a right to. The ongoing feud with the neighbor muddies these waters more than I care to tread in them further.
Jesus’ advice about the Swords was immediately followed by “we have two” to which he replied “enough.” And of course later that night when Peter used one - at a time when normally it would seem to be self-defence - Jesus rebuked him. < Special circumstances: Jesus intended to sacrifice Himself that night, had told the apostles, and even undid Peter’s damage.
The mystery remains – why did Jesus tell the apostles to sell a cloak and buy a sword at ALL?
All I can get out of it is that two swords per 12 men was the ratio.So maybe a country’s defense budget ought to cap at 16.6666667 % ?
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nitesnake
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And therefore what? I am under no obligation to oblige or obey any political statement made by the USCCB.
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LilyM
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Honouring suicides who achieved nothing of purpose doesn’t make sense to anyone with sense.
As for your daugher, if you haven’t taught her to the point where you can trust her to shoot him herself then by your standards you must be a neglectful parent indeed - a rapist is hardly likely to attack when she isn’t alone, after all. I’d imagine a knife or such might be handy at those sort of close quarters.
As I keep saying, if you are a crack shot and certain you could shoot him without either
a) shooting her as well
b) accidentally shooting her boyfriend who she is making out with in the mistaken belief he is raping her (for which I am sure she would be eternally grateful) or
c) leaving him alive for long enough to kill her or you in turn
then be my guest.
I am most unlikely ever to have that much confidence or ability, so I will not.
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