Bishop wants us to stand after agnus dei?

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I have been kneeling after the Agnus Dei as long as I can remember, both Tridentine and Novus Ordo masses.
 
" At the Sound of His Name every head shall Bow and EVERY KNEE SHALL BEND !
Our bishops often act like they want to be protestants .They don’t like Pius practices or Ethnic devotions . So we have to defend our rights to have them !
 
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" At the Sound of His Name every head shall Bow and EVERY KNEE SHALL BEND !
Our bishops often act like they want to be protestants .They don’t like Pius practices or Ethnic devotions . So we have to defend our rights to have them !
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Remeber, the universal norm is standing at this point. Please don’t put yourself above the judgment of Rome in what is proper and what is not in the Liturgy.
 
In Cleveland we stand until after Communion to show that we are all one in Christ. The problem is that in some parishes you have half the people standing and half kneeling. So much for unity.

BTW, I think that the tapestries of the Saints at the LA cathedral are amazing. Too bad they hid the Tabernacle…
 
The norm for the Dioceses of the United States is to kneel after the Agnus Dei. However, The local ordinary has the authority to change that posture within his jurisdiction.

Adam
 
The pastor at St.Pat’s in Ann Arbor was kind enough to help the congregation out last week, telling us that we are free to sit or stand or kneel after receiving Communion. (We stand at the agnus dei until we go up to receive).
 
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In Cleveland we stand until after Communion to show that we are all one in Christ. The problem is that in some parishes you have half the people standing and half kneeling. So much for unity.

BTW, I think that the tapestries of the Saints at the LA cathedral are amazing. Too bad they hid the Tabernacle…
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The CDW has asked that dioceses not do this. Cardinal Arinze has specifically answered in a Dubium that it is an incorrect interpretation of the GIRM to mandate this in parishes.
 
Sorry, but kneeling is an acceptable posture. The Holy Father has never spoken “ex cathedra” and declared kneeling unacceptable!
Kneeling is a spiritual expression to God not an exercise performed in a manner unacceptable like liturgical dancing! Anyone who directs one otherwise does not have the authority to do so including the Bishop.
 
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Fast_ed75:
That is hilarious…Are you serious?
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I was in LA over Labor Day weekend. Although the outside of the Cathedral may be mmm, well not at all beautiful, the inside is wonderful and much loved by everyone who sees it, I am told.

Do not judge a book by it’s cover.
LA being in the depth of earthquake country, demands different specs than you do in Chicago. That is only part of the explanation, I am told.
 
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mosher:
The CDW has asked that dioceses not do this. Cardinal Arinze has specifically answered in a Dubium that it is an incorrect interpretation of the GIRM to mandate this in parishes.
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Really??? Do have a link? I’d love to see this.
 
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mosher:
Remeber, the universal norm is standing at this point. Please don’t put yourself above the judgment of Rome in what is proper and what is not in the Liturgy.
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Please don’t put yourself above the infallibilty documents of Vatican I. Seesh. BTW, there were several contraversial “additions” to liturgies to say the least, in the past few years in Rome (and other parts of the world). Does that make it acceptable just because “Rome did it?” No!
 
In our Diocese (Gaylord, Michigan), the Bishop has asked that we kneel from the Sanctus to the Great Amen, and then stand after that until after Eucharist when the Tabernacle doors have been closed.

I kneel at the first part (Sanctus to Amen) like the GIRM teaches. After receiving Holy Communion, whilst everyone else is standing, I kneel, as I am accustomed to doing. I simply feel it is right (for me) to be on my knees before the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords.

Mike
 
In our Diocese (Gaylord, Michigan), the Bishop has asked that we kneel from the Sanctus to the Great Amen, and then stand after that until after Eucharist when the Tabernacle doors have been closed.

I kneel at the first part (Sanctus to Amen) like the GIRM teaches. After receiving Holy Communion, whilst everyone else is standing, I kneel, as I am accustomed to doing. I simply feel it is right (for me) to be on my knees before the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords.

Mike
 
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awalt:
I got to attend mass in LA at the beautiful new Cathedral, and they stand there also.
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Don’t worry about the nattering nabobs of negativism who have never visited the facility, yet feel the need to pass judgement.

While I personally believe the facility could have been built in a manner far more appropriate for the Mass, I must concede that it truly is stunning inside, and I can see how some people would feel it truly is “beautiful.”

There are several elements inside of the church – the ceiling, the floor, the altar, the alabaster windows, the tapestries, etc. that are simply stunning.
 
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MikeMaturenMDiv:
In our Diocese (Gaylord, Michigan), the Bishop has asked that we kneel from the Sanctus to the Great Amen, and then stand after that until after Eucharist when the Tabernacle doors have been closed.

I kneel at the first part (Sanctus to Amen) like the GIRM teaches. After receiving Holy Communion, whilst everyone else is standing, I kneel, as I am accustomed to doing. I simply feel it is right (for me) to be on my knees before the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords.

Mike
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Your bishop has no right to dictate the posture one assumes after receiving communion.
 
Your bishop has no right to dictate the posture one assumes after receiving communion.
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Chalice, I hate to say it but you are wrong. The bishop does have final say over how the liturgy is to be celebrated in his diocese.
Please don’t put yourself above the infallibilty documents of Vatican I. Seesh. BTW, there were several contraversial “additions” to liturgies to say the least, in the past few years in Rome (and other parts of the world). Does that make it acceptable just because “Rome did it?” No!
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EddieArent, There may have been decisions made in Rome that are ‘controversial’ to you, but the Pope has sole authority to make universal additions to the Liturgy. The bishop of each diocese has sole authority over liturgies celebrated in his own diocese however.

Very confusing, yes. But there are many different authorities when it comes to how Liturgy is celebrated in a diocese, and the final say is NOT the GIRM, nor your HUMBLE opinion.
 
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awalt:
I got to attend mass in LA at the beautiful new Cathedral, and they stand there also.
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Is that Cardinal Mahony’s “Temple of Doom?”
 
Flamingsword - I think you are wrong. Whats your basis for your unkneeling required?
 
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