Bishops rip HHS mandate That Forces Coverage of Birth Control, Abortion Drugs

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Here’s an interesting article that appeared in this weekend’s San Antonio newspaper:

mysanantonio.com/news/politics/article/Archdiocese-joins-protest-against-Obama-3006505.php

What I thought interesting was an admission that Catholic institutions here in San Antonio (and probably nationwide :confused:) already offer contraceptives on their insurance plans:

Santa Rosa Health System and the three major Catholic universities in San Antonio already have insurance plans that make contraceptives available to employees with co-pays.”

““This is the first we have heard of the possibility of that situation existing… We can’t fully understand the detail of their insurance coverage,” García-Siller said by email Friday.”

““This does afford us an opportunity to begin dialogue on this issue with them.””
They may be morally wrong to do so, but the difference is that they weren’t forced to. This mandate forces us.
 
The Bishops don’t have to close the hospitals, all they have to do is…
  1. Fire all non-Catholic employees (ruling says employees must all be Catholic)
  2. Refuse services to all non-Catholic clients. (ruling says all customers must be Catholic)
  3. Require a sermon or religion class and prayer before admission into the hospital and before every medical service. (ruling says primary purpose is promotion of religion)
  4. Train nurses in sermons and prayers they can give to the clients. (ruling says primary purpose is promotion of religion)
I’m being serious. I think they should do that before they close any hospital. That will wake the public up. Actually, I think they should spend a year telling people that’s what they have to do, so they can find another hospital in the area, or convert. That will get people talking and listening and realizing the religious discrimination going on.
That is absurd.
 
The clergy (deacons and priests) were not ordered to preach on the letter. They were directed to read the letter or at best, to put it into the bulletin. The preference was that they read it If the pastor believes that there will be a riot in the church as he reads it, he can simply make it an insert in the bulletin. The pastors often know their parishes well. You may want to suggest this idea to Father.

In addition, a bishop may not order a diocesan priest to preach on anything. If the bishop objects to the content of a homily, that is legitimate. If the bishop wishes that Father had said X but did not, there is not much that he can do about it.
Thanks for the information. I did not know the bishop cannot order a diocesan priest to preach on anything. Isn’t the bishop the superior of the priest? Does not a diocesan priest have to obey his bishop? I know diocesan priests have no vow of poverty, I guess they don’t have vow of obedience either. Or, the diocesan priests just have no vow at all?

Anyway, I think as a shepherd of the flock, a pastor should take a right stand and teach the congregation, at least inform them what is going on. Otherwise, he just leaves it to " hit or miss", and he does not care people are informed or not on critical issues.
 
It is our duty as Catholics, not even to light a pinch of incense to the false gods, for the sake of our lives, as it was the duty of Judea not to eat the smallest slice of pork, during the time of Judea. We must make the stand and fully refuse, even though the faithful are fewer than we hope, they still are more than the government thinks. They won’t be able to force this on us.
 
It depends on how strongly Obama feels about it. If he vetoes the legislation, we’ll need 2/3 in both houses to override. The House will be no problem, but the Senate is dicey. Honestly, I have to think that the Democrats don’t want to alienate such a large number of Catholics, and they may be discussing with Obama right now how they can get out of this. To save face, he’ll have to make it look like he’s giving it up in exchange for something else.

It doesn’t matter to me. Obama has permanently alienated me with this. I won’t vote for him even if the Republicans run a monkey (and it looks like they’ve given that serious consideration this primary season).
LOL! I feel pretty much the same way! They could pretty much put Bozo in there and he would get my vote!😃
 
Do any of you who are following this issue and who are employed by a nonreligious employer subscribe to a group health care plan through your employer, and if so, have you checked to see if it covers contraceptives? Most group plans cover them, and if you subscribe to the plan, you have coverage for those services. Whether you choose to use them is where your conscience rights come into play. Are you suggesting that I have to drop my blue cross coverage simply because it covers contraceptives for other people? Isn’t the logical extension of the bishops’ position here that I should? If so, I think that’s a complete overreach by the Church. If that’s not what the bishops are suggesting, then please explain the difference! Thanks.
I have always made sure that such coverage was not available in the polices I provide my employees. I will probably be terminating health coverage for my employees . i am wating to see what the USSC rules.
 
There are so many interesting points being made here that I wish that I could comment on them all. As Formation Director, I have spend that last 10 days answer all of these and more questions for our postulants and novices. But there is not enough room here for 10 days of instruction. So, I’ll just touch on some interesting and simple points to explain.

The clergy (deacons and priests) were not ordered to preach on the letter. They were directed to read the letter or at best, to put it into the bulletin. The preference was that they read it If the pastor believes that there will be a riot in the church as he reads it, he can simply make it an insert in the bulletin. The pastors often know their parishes well. You may want to suggest this idea to Father.

In addition, a bishop may not order a diocesan priest to preach on anything. If the bishop objects to the content of a homily, that is legitimate. If the bishop wishes that Father had said X but did not, there is not much that he can do about it.

Priests who are religious have a vow of obedience to their superiors. The superior can order one of two things:

a) Read the letter

or

b) Do whatever the bishop asks you to do

At the end of the day, a religious is not in the Army to serve the system, but to serve the souls in that system. There has to be cooperation between the chaplains and the system. This is logical. However, there also has to be a protection of the rights both of the chaplains and the enlisted personnel. They have a right to hear their spiritual leaders. Does this mean that a confessor cannot tell a soldier that he cannot comply with this or that order because it violates the moral law? Are we gong to regulate that next?

The federal money excuse is just that, an excuse. Let’s take Medicare. Medicare is an insurance program like any other insurance, for which the employee has paid for through FICA. This is not a benefit to the healthcare provider. This is an healthcare plan that the individual paid for with his money. We all pay Society Security Taxes. The individual can take his Medicare card and go to any provider on the list of the company that manages his Medicare. It works like an HMO. The Government is paying a private insurance carrier to manage it. It’s not paying the doctor or hospital. The agreements between the providers and the carrier are decided by them, not the Government. Doctors even have to get permission to prescribe certain medications that are not on the carriers formulary. If this was so federally controlled,why is there not uniformity?

Medicaid is not Federal Money. It is State money. Though the Federal Government subsidizes more in some states and less in others. Medicaid also works like insurance. You go to whomever accepts Medicaid. The state cannot force anyone to accept medicaid. Medicaid sets limits on whom they cover and what they cover just like any other carrier.

There is a moral law that you may not turn down any sick person. This is a universal law, not a Catholic law. Generally, Jewish, Protestant and Catholic hospitals follow it.

There is a civil law that an emergency room must treat every patient, regardless of his ability to pay and even keep the patient, until the person is out of danger. They don’t have to cure you, but they can’t send you home if you have chest pains.

Morally and legally, this is not an option. The option has always been that healthcare systems and workers did not have to provide anything that is elective or any service contrary to conscience. Birth control, sterilization and abortion inducing drugs fall under both umbrellas, elective and immoral.

This is a very serious problem for anyone who owns his business and employs others. If you’re Orthodox Jew, faithful Catholic or Muslim and you own a department store, you will have to purchase a healthcare policy that you normally would not offer your employees.

Finally, the employees in the USA have not been asked if they want to pay higher premiums in order to add these “benefits” to their healthcare package. If I’m reading the regulation correctly, it says that the employer must purchase the healthcare package and must offer it to his employees. It does not say that the employer has to absorb the rise in premium or are the insurance companies not allowed to raise the premium for the added coverage?

There seems to be more than ample reason for people of faith to see this as an assault on their rights than as an effort to expand healthcare benefits.

If I am wrong, I would gladly admit it. But I don’t find answers to these questions.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
You do not paint a pleasant picture. 😦
 
It’s very comforting to see that Nancy Polosi is “with Catholics” on this “courageous decision”:
Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic leader in the House, briefly defended the policy when questioned at a Hill press conference. “First of all, I am going to stick with my fellow Catholics in supporting the administration on this,” she said. “I think it was a very courageous decision that they made, and I support it,” she said before inviting a different question from another reporter.
 
It’s very comforting to see that Nancy Polosi is “with Catholics” on this “courageous decision”:
It is courageous to put your salvation on the line by supporting heresy. Of course, not courageous in the good way.
 
Rubio Leads Charge as Catholic Anger Grows Over Obama Birth-Control Rule
U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., often touted as a vice-presidential candidate for the eventual GOP presidential nominee, is pushing back with legislation he filed last week to repeal the measure. That’s drawing cheers from both Catholics and religious conservatives around the country.
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Rubio has garnered 20 Republican co-sponsors in the Senate for the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. A version of the bill in the Republican-dominated House stands a better chance of passage than in the Democratic-controlled Senate.
“From a practical standpoint, this will force Catholic organizations to make an unacceptable choice: Ignore a major tenet of their faith, or not provide any insurance to their employees and be punished with a federal fine for violating ObamaCare’s mandate on employers,’’ Rubio wrote in the New York Post on Friday. “As Americans, we should all be appalled by an activist government so overbearing and so obsessed with forcing mandates on the American people that it forces such a choice on religious institutions.’’
 
From the article: “I want to make clear that the president’s — or, the secretary’s — decision, and the president concurs with it, is that this [contraception] coverage needs to be available to all American women,” Carney said."

In other words, Sebelius and Obama are clear that Catholic institutions must pay for insurance coverage of somethiing that violates their morals.

Sure doesn’t sound conciliatory to me. Birth control and abortion are sacred to the left, and to this administration. It must be forced on everyone.

I am reminded of the words of Justice Byron White, who in dissenting from Roe v Wade, called it an “exercise of raw judicial power.” This is simply an exercise of “raw executive power.” There will be more.
 
That is absurd.
Somewhat agreed. But this is an absurd situation. It does not call for rational discussion. Because this is not a misunderstanding, Pres. Obama knows he is pushing this down Catholic throats and doesn’t care. Can’t you hear all the delighted giggling?

It calls for a campaign that will get people’s attention away from their own daily worries. How you get people’s attention is talking about their lives. They don’t care about you or someone else’s, or some philosophical discussion.

We need to have attention grabbing actions and words on a regular basis, so it’s not forgotten 10 minutes later when the next crisis arrives.
 
Have you, or any attorneys that you work with, done an analysis of the law and how this will play out?
Fortunately for my community, we don’t have employees. We are employees. If we ever owned an institution, which I doubt we ever will, then we’ll have to hire a law firm.
Let us suppose that a Catholic institution (or business) declines to purchase the insurance and refuses to pay the fine. What happens next?
I’m going to guess that it would be the same as refusing to pay a traffic ticket. There will be interests and more fines until you’re arrest… The government has not really said, have they?
And, from the Church’s viewpoint, is it accurate to say that paying the fine is morally equivalent to purchasing the insurance in the first place?
That’s an excellent question. I’ll have to ask a moral theologian about that. I’m a Spiritual Theologian.

My guess is that paying the fine can be looked at as biting the bullet for refusing to cooperate with evil. The reason that I’m guessing this is because I imagine that you’re not going to get away with a one-time fine. I’ll bet that it will be recurring until you cave. If it were as easy as a one-time fine, we could all pull out our check books, write Uncle Sam a check and go home.
Thanks for the information. I did not know the bishop cannot order a diocesan priest to preach on anything. Isn’t the bishop the superior of the priest? Does not a diocesan priest have to obey his bishop? I know diocesan priests have no vow of poverty, I guess they don’t have vow of obedience either. Or, the diocesan priests just have no vow at all?
There are two things at play here. Fist, the priest is the presider of the mass. That’s why Vatican II resurrected that term. It’s an ancient term that describes exactly the priests role in relation to the congregation. He is presiding. As the leader, it is his call what to preach.

The bishop’s role is to protect the faith. This includes to protect the liturgy. If a priest violates a serious liturgical law or deliberately teaches heresy (I’m not talking about a slip up), the bishop’s duty is to address the problem.

If you observe, there is nothing in the tradition that says that bishops can dictate the sermon. Even in religious orders, the superior cannot dictate the sermon.

The second thing happening here is that diocesan priests are secular Catholics. They are not consecrated religious. Therefore, they don’t make any kind of vow. At the time that they are ordained deacon they are asked if they promise to be celibate. This is a promise not to marry after your wife dies or if you’re single, a promise never to marry.

A vow of chastity is a little more. Your putting your soul on the line that you’re going to live a celibate life AND that you’re never going to commit an impure act or entertain an impure thought. If you do, you sin against chasity, but you also sin against the vow that you made. It’s double jeopardy.

Think of it this way. You have one single man and one married man. The single man has an affair. He has sinned against purity. The married man has an affair. He has sinned against purity and has committed adultery;

That’s what happens between a secular priest and a religious. The secular priest is the single man. The religious is the married man.

At the time of ordination to the diaconate, the candidate is asked if he promises obedience to the bishop. This obedience applies to diocesan policies, assignments and anything that the bishop is allowed to control. As you saw above, the bishop’s authority over the sermon only beings if there is heresy. The bishop has no authority over the private life of his priests, their relationships, what they do after they retire, how they use their money or their free time or even how or if they pray.

When we become religious, we make a vow to obey the superior in all things until our death. This is not only in matters of policy, but in everything that the rule says we must obey. If my superior says that I may not be your friend, I cannot be your friend. If my superior says that I can have $10 for a free day, I can’t have $12. Something that happened to me. After I finished my doctorate in theology, my superior said that Christ wanted me to form priests not to be a priest. That’s it. Christ has spoken. I obey.
Anyway, I think as a shepherd of the flock, a pastor should take a right stand and teach the congregation, at least inform them what is going on. Otherwise, he just leaves it to " hit or miss", and he does not care people are informed or not on critical issues.
He does care, but you must remember that you can’t just look at this through the eyes of a layman. Deacons, priests and religious also have rights in the Church. Bishops must be shepherds to them too. That means that as shepherd he protects their rights. They have a right to preach what they feel is best for their congregation. The bishop can command that they read the letter, but not that they preach on the letter. In other words, he cannot interfere with the sermon. To do so would be to violate the rights of the priest or the deacon who is preaching that day.
 
Wow, I imagined someday in my latter years I would experience persecution for my faith in this country along with faithful Catholics. I never imagined it would come this soon and having a 6 year old child. I guess the turncoat liberal Catholics must be rejoicing since the window of opportunity might be opening for them to take over the Church in America and institute their degenerate agendas.

God help and defend us from this evil.
 
You do not paint a pleasant picture. 😦
I didn’t create this picture. The government did. My concern is how far does the government think it can go. We’ve already had cases where the government wiretapped confessionals and the Catholic citizens stood by and said nothing when the local bishop raised the alarm. This happened in a prison. The reaction of the citizens was, “Oh well, these are criminals.”

Hellooooooo, even a criminal has the right to go to confession, the right to be absolved and the right to the secrecy of the confessional, not matter what he confesses.

What they wanted to do was to get information that they could use in court. Fortunately, the court ruled that this was a very slippery slop and ordered the warden to hand the tapes over to the chaplain. We will never know if they made copies. In any case, they were not allowed to use them. But it was stunning to see Catholics simply look the other way, because these were inmates.

In other words, we have people who place the rights of the state over the rights of God. That’s very scary. This happened in every society that eventually went into chaos and finally collapsed: Rome, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union come to mind.

God is only so tolerant, before he begins to allow us to suffer the natural consequences for our indifference.

Many Germans who looked the other way while Jews were picked up off the streets like garbage never expected to be under the yoke of Nazism. They kept looking the other way and singing a little louder so as not to hear the cry of the Jews when one day they found themselves under the boot of the Nazi regime.

My fear is that we do the same in this country. A man who does not pay attention to history runs the risk of repeating it.

The great problem here is that this is not a question of political parties or who is or is not the president at the time. It’s really about the conscience of the political leadership, regardless of political affiliation. We need to help our leaders pay attention. Sometimes, they act as if they were oblivious to the consequences that can follow.

A political leader may think that he’s moving one piece on a chessboard. He may not be thinking that he has just opened up Pandora’s box. Political leadership requires prudence.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Wow, I imagined someday in my latter years I would experience persecution for my faith in this country along with faithful Catholics. I never imagined it would come this soon and having a 6 year old child. I guess the turncoat liberal Catholics must be rejoicing since the window of opportunity might be opening for them to take over the Church in America and institute their degenerate agendas.

God help and defend us from this evil.
Fear not. The Church cannot be taken over. You will always have a few rascals on the inside, but never a takeover. Christ promised it.

Persecuted, pushed around, bullied, etc, wellllll, Christ never promised that wouldn’t happen.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
On my parish’s website:

Especially these days, we as Catholic Christians MUST be aware of what’s going on in our world around us. Today we need to be all paying special attention to an action of our government a week-and-a-half ago concerning health care in our country. One of the biggest concerns around the debate and passage of the National Health Care Act two years ago was what coverage would be mandated concerning things that the Catholic Church knows to be immoral. The fear was that Catholics would be forced to provide and pay for things like direct abortion, drugs that work as abortifacents, and all forms of contraception and sterilization. Those worst fears have now become reality. The Federal Government has reaffirmed its plan to force the Catholic Church and all its institutions, to pay ALL of the costs of these moral evils. There’s not even a co-pay for these immoral services! It is however a demonstration of the true agenda going on here that women seeking treatment for infertility, get nothing from this plan! So if you are a woman with a real medical problem, you’re on your own. But if you want to cut off a perfectly healthy, properly-functioning system of your body, or if you want to mutilate and destroy tissue and organs to keep them from doing what God created them for, then it is paid in full! Archbishop Timothy Dolan, soon to be “Cardinal Dolan” in just a couple of weeks, and a classmate of our own Bishop Doherty, said “Never before has the Federal Government forced individuals and organizations to go out into the marketplace and buy a product that violates their conscience.” This is startling news! Every one of us as Catholics should be appalled. Make no mistake about it, this is a new persecution of the Church. All religions, all churches, and all denominations should pay close attention here. Religious freedom is being destroyed in the United States today!

Perhaps even more startling about this news, is its near absence from the news media. The Indianapolis Star ran an article on the front page of its Saturday, January 21st edition, and has had very little more to say about it since then. Most other news outlets have so buried this story that many people have no idea what’s happening. We’ve got to know what’s going on here. Our apathy and indifference, and seemingly lack of willingness to act, is going to cost us dearly as Church. Pay attention to what’s going on here. Call our Senators and Representatives. In this election year, we can’t afford to sit back and think that what our government is doing does not affect us as Catholic Christians.
 
I’m hardly sanguine that this will be struck down on the basis of religious freedom. I hope I’m wrong, but…

The problem as I see it, is that the administration has taken the position that “Catholic” hospitals, etc., are not part of the Church qua Church.

That is they are not entitled to the 1st Amendment constitutional protections. Given my own experience with “Catholic” healthcare, the Catholic Health West recent action to say it was not “Catholic” and the whole debacle in Arizona, etc., the administration has a strong argument: There is no real difference between a putative Catholic hospital and any other. Apply the same analysis to schools, etc. Frankly, I think the Church has an uphill battle.

This whole thing does not surprise me at all. In fact, it was most foreseeable. C’mon, how many hospitals are now run by orders, let alone have any significant number of vowed religious doing anything in them? Mere ownership is never going to get over the religion hump, and the Church has done a most amazing job ridding its hospitals and school of anything clearly Catholic beyond a superficial title.

What you sow, …
To begin with, simple ownership does in fact constitute a very secure ground on which to make a claim. This is the same argument that non-Christians have made against Nativity scenes and Christmas trees being paid for with public tax dollars and set up on public property, only in reverse: in the same way that an athiest can make a claim that he has a right to make sure that his tax dollars do not go to expressions of religion, a Catholic group gets to decide whether or not to spend their money on medical procedures and supplies that they believe are antithetical to their faith. As the Supreme Court has ruled–very recently, in fact–the use of money is protected by the first amendment.

Not to mention, it doesn’t simply effect Catholic hospitals and schools, it effects any Catholic institution that ministers to those outside of the Catholic faith. For example, I live very close to Marytown, a Conventual Franciscan friary, and home to the National Shrine of St. Maximillian Kolbe. Because Fanciscans minister other religious groups besides just Catholics, they do not meet the religious exemption as drawn by HHS. Tell me, why do Conventual Franciscans need to pay to cover birth control? That’s a serious question, somebody needs to try to answer that.
 
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