Bishops rip HHS mandate That Forces Coverage of Birth Control, Abortion Drugs

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iloveangels said:
Well, that’s the thing, Gary. There’s really nothing at all vague about this. IF the ruling doesn’t get rescinded, the bishops are not going to comply. Period. They’d rather pay the fines, and I don’t blame them one bit.

I’ll be praying that this thing gets rescinded. If it doesn’t, and the bishops don’t comply, then I’ll personally be backing them up every step of the way, and I’ll continue to be proud and happy to be a Catholic.
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Me too, its gonna be some time though. For us here on CAF, we pretty much heard all this. Yet I have to tell you, the memo came out from the Archbishop in CT this past Sunday. A good percentage were unaware of the implications. It gonna be a long year and its really just getting started.

Peace
 
GaryTaylor said:
Me too, its gonna be some time though. For us here on CAF, we pretty much heard all this. Yet I have to tell you, the memo came out from the Archbishop in CT this past Sunday. A good percentage were unaware of the implications. It gonna be a long year and its really just getting started.

Peace
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Yes, indeed. But it’s going to be a long year anyway. It’s an election year. :banghead:

I can hardly wait til November. My voting lever finger has a terrible itch. I could vote today. I made the decision a long time ago about who to vote against.

😃 😃 😃

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GaryTaylor said:
Me too, its gonna be some time though. For us here on CAF, we pretty much heard all this. Yet I have to tell you, the memo came out from the Archbishop in CT this past Sunday. A good percentage were unaware of the implications. It gonna be a long year and its really just getting started.

Peace
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The Church will get through it. It’s come through worse by far. We’ll get through it fine.
Obama doesn’t realize what he’s dealing with when he messes with the Catholic Church.
 
CMatt25 said:
And wasn’t it you who posted the United Methodists, Presbyterians USA, Episcopal Church and the United Church of Christ are among those who don’t have a problem with it and thus I would gather don’t see it as a religious liberty issue since they’re all religions too?
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Maybe because they have liberal views on contraception, but it is shameful, they should be standing for religious liberty even if they do not agree with other Churches about contraception, they should think that nobody should be forced to pay for it but in comparison the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, National Association of Evangelicals, Southern Baptist and Lutheran Church – Missouri Synod leaders, Orthodox Christian, and others have condemned the mandate as an assault on religious liberty.

Per the USSCB, The Washington Post, USA Today, N.Y. Daily News, Detroit News, and other secular outlets, columnists, and bloggers have editorialized against it.
 
 
Attorney General Coordinates Lawsuit Against Obama Mandate
Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning is coordinating a legal challenge against the controversial Obama mandate requiring religious employers to cover birth control and drugs that can cause abortions.
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Bruning says he is contacting fellow state attorneys general to put together a lawsuit against the Obama administration over the mandate and he sent a letter to his 49 colleagues looking for some of them to sign on to the lawsuit.
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“This new mandate provides no exemption for religious affiliated hospitals, universities and charitable institutions. This is clearly a violation of the First Amendment,” he says in the letter, according to the Lincoln Journal Star.
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“I have pledged to coordinate an AG-led lawsuit to stop this direct challenge to religious liberty,” Bruning said. “I have been in contact with the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, who welcome and appreciate any assistance we can provide.”
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He said it “unconstitutionally expands congressional authority and infringes upon individual liberty.”
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Meanwhile, National Center for Public Policy Research Adjunct Fellow Horace Cooper is criticizing HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius for pushing the new health care mandate saying it is unconstitutional and would fail in court.
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Meanwhile, National Center for Public Policy Research Adjunct Fellow Horace Cooper is criticizing HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius for pushing the new health care mandate saying it is unconstitutional and would fail in court.
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“The new HHS rule represents a radical departure from the traditional treatment of religious organizations in America,” the legal commentator who taught constitutional law at George Mason University says. “If the White House doesn’t overturn this regulation, the Courts will.”
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Cooper notes that a unanimous decision of the U.S. Supreme Court reaffirmed relevant religious freedom protections only a few weeks ago in Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church v. EEOC.
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maximus said:
I think this article over estimates the level of commitment most Catholics have for Christ and his Church. I know liberal Catholics that would rejoice if the government told the Church what to do in healthcare and even interfering with how the church operates and should ordain women.

God Bless,

Andres
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I do not know, I am hearing from a few Catholics who say even liberal Catholics they know of are saying this mandate is wrong.

Look at the prominent liberal Catholics who have supported this administration who are now denouncing the mandate as a step too far: E.J. Dionne, Mark Shields, and Michael Sean Winters; college presidents Father John Jenkins and Arturo Chavez; and Daughter of Charity Sister Carol Keehan.
 
I have been thinking. I do not think President Obama is exercising his agenda here. I think the problem runs much deeper and as Christians we may be missing the point.

There is a strategy here that transcends politics. The president himself is being used by the forces of evil arrayed against the Kingdom of God. While political action is needed, I think it is far less important than spiritual action. Rather, we should heed the voice of St. Paul in Ephesians 6:101-20, and realize that this battle is not against flesh and blood. I encourage everyone to read this again in light of the current events, meditate upon the weapons we are to use, and join the real battle. I will link the chapter to make it easier.

usccb.org/bible/ephesians/6

Ephesians 6:10-20
 
Why should these people be any less representative how other liberal Catholics are feeling. This is going to be an election issue, and if if liberal Catholics think this is a step too far and don’t vote for Obama because of it and stay home, that will benefit the Republican opponent even if they do get their vote.
 
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