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ThomasMT
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Nope, as I’m guessing you would agree, silence is complicity. I will not be complicit in the hate, division, and discord you are attempting to incite in this forum.
But please, go on.
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But please, go on.
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WillPhillips
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Wow. I’m asking a sincere question.
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MNathaniel
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I posted context-setting information (which you seem to have mixed up with a different statistic in the article).
Twice as many Catholics are sub-Saharan African than are American.
Given that sub-Saharan Africans are (correct me if I’m wrong) predominantly black, I think that’s relevant to your racially divisive and racially targeted question interrogating black Catholics about why there are so ‘few’ of them.
Sure, as with any country, I’m sure examining the historical and demographic trends of religion in America could be interesting enough.
But given all the race-baiting out there these days, it honestly comes across (to my eyes) as disrespectful to black people, to suggest that they’d be Catholic for any reason different than a white person, Asian person, Latina person, etc.
Surely you can presume that each of us is Catholic because we believe Catholicism is true.
Why would black people be ‘different’ from anyone else in their motives for religion?
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ThomasMT
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Your profile history is reasonably transparent… I’m guessing you will block it soon enough.
I dont doubt your sincerity, just motives.
I dont doubt your sincerity, just motives.
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MNathaniel
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I’m not black or American so I don’t know what more you expect me to be able to say other than: “Blatantly obvious America-specific historical circumstances.”
And also that history isn’t stagnant and the number of black American Catholics will change (same as every other ethnicity) in proportion to the number of free will choices for God in God’s Church made by human souls exposed to the fullness of truth and invited to effectively participate in it.
The number of [anything in the world, take your pick] will be different tomorrow.
Why are you obsessing over the intersection of race and religion in one particular country at one particular point in time? Are you trying to encourage some positive unity and good, or trying to stir a pot in the middle of politically hysterical times?
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WillPhillips
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I didn’t realize you could block people here, lol.
Definitely appreciate your (name removed by moderator)ut. Why do you think there are so few American Catholics who are Black?
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ThomasMT
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I meant your profile and post history, silly.
I’m curious, are you Catholic yourself?
I’m curious, are you Catholic yourself?
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MNathaniel
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Nah, in one of his posts he says he’s an atheist.
He also argues for abortion, when he’s not trying to stir up racial division.
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ThomasMT
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Aww, you took the fun out of it
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redbetta
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A pretty anti-Catholic one at that.
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MNathaniel
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Haha sorry, is this ‘fun’?Aww, you took the fun out of it
I must be out of practice in this pandemic.
I’ll let you get back to it.
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ThomasMT
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Not at all, I get a bit facetious at this hour 
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MNathaniel
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Haha oh you’re mixing up ‘fun’ with ‘delirium’…Not at all, I get a bit facetious at this hour
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WillPhillips
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More disheartened than usual in the replies here.
Reposting my OP in hopes of a sincere response:
“If you’re Black, why do you support the Catholic Church? And if you’re comfortable answering, why do you think so few Black Americans are Catholic?”
Reposting my OP in hopes of a sincere response:
“If you’re Black, why do you support the Catholic Church? And if you’re comfortable answering, why do you think so few Black Americans are Catholic?”
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MNathaniel
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Friend, the thing is, you post these kinds of inquiries repetitively.
Can you see how in the current climate, these kinds of inquiries can come across as more intended to incite communities to feel internally divided, rather than as prompts to productive conversation?
Especially when the person posting the inquiry openly admits to not being part of the religion in question?
Serious question: Are you just bored? Are you writing a school paper? Are you seriously considering becoming Catholic and hearing from black American Catholics would help you sort through a specific block that’s obstructing your conversion? What’s your purpose behind asking this question? Idle curiosity isn’t an appropriate reason, so I hope you have some more substantial purpose in mind.
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WillPhillips
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Looking for a sincere attempt at an answer to my OP. I understand this makes some people uncomfortable.
Looking for a sincere attempt at an answer to my OP. I understand this makes some people uncomfortable.
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WillPhillips
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Please then just move along if my question is irrelevant and you don’t want to try to answer it. It’s not hard.
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ThomasMT
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Fair enough Will, have a good evening.
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MNathaniel
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Maybe you’d get better answers if you clarified why you’re asking?
E.g.:
“I’m a black American atheist with a Catholic father. I’ve been re-considering my theological objections to the Church and am considering becoming a practicing Catholic again, but honestly feel disheartened by the lack of visible witness from fellow black American Catholics. Is there a reason other black people stay away from Catholicism? Have I missed something?”
At least if you wrote something like that, it’d come across less like poking a community with a stick, and more like you have an actual question that needs an answer.
As it is you so far come across like an Internet atheist idly poking a religious community with a stick. Provoking potential division for no clear necessary reason.
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