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WillPhillips
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What? I have to clarify why I’m asking?
I asked a pretty straightforward question, no?
Maybe you should consider why you’re so invested in your non-response to that question.
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I asked a pretty straightforward question, no?
Maybe you should consider why you’re so invested in your non-response to that question.
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WillPhillips
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Ugh. You pegged me as Black. I see.
Please don’t reply unless it’s to my original question
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7_Sorrows
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I would love to see more Black Americans in the Catholic church.
I had neighbors who were raised Catholic. She was from Maryland and he was from Louisiana. They were Black and he had been in the military. They raised their
3 children Catholic. The mother left the Catholic church and became a Jehovah Witness probably in
her 40’s or 50’s. Her husband stopped going to church, but I am pretty sure he remained Catholic in his heart and mind. Their children left the Catholic church when
they became adults. One is also a Jehovah Witness and the other one is evangelical and the 3rd has passed as have both parents.
I wish the Catholic church had a plan for evangelizing
the Black Americans in our country.
I had neighbors who were raised Catholic. She was from Maryland and he was from Louisiana. They were Black and he had been in the military. They raised their
3 children Catholic. The mother left the Catholic church and became a Jehovah Witness probably in
her 40’s or 50’s. Her husband stopped going to church, but I am pretty sure he remained Catholic in his heart and mind. Their children left the Catholic church when
they became adults. One is also a Jehovah Witness and the other one is evangelical and the 3rd has passed as have both parents.
I wish the Catholic church had a plan for evangelizing
the Black Americans in our country.
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MNathaniel
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Actually.
As a Catholic (and this is a Catholic community), we believe that idle curiosity is a vice.
That’s not a condemnation of the good kind of interest in a subject that leads to important and relevant information industriously learned in a productive way. Also known as ‘studiousness’.
See this video for a helpful explanation of the distinction between curiosity and studiousness:
But not every idle question deserves an answer.
Certainly not every race-baiting, community-dividing question.
So yeah, it’s relevant why you (or any of us) asks any question. There’s a difference between the answer owed to someone struggling with a matter of the heart, and an answer owed to someone sincerely pursuing academic understanding, and an answer owed to someone poking an animal with a stick trying to make it mad.
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WillPhillips
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Well if you think that, please cease answering question…?
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MNathaniel
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HOLY MOLY.MNathaniel:
Ugh. You pegged me as Black. I see.
Please don’t reply unless it’s to my original question
I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Are you here to interrogate black people and demand they answer your questions and you’re not even black???
Are you literally that stereotype of the white saviour complex type, out to be offended on behalf of black people without asking their permission? And not only that, but you’re repetitively demanding they answer your intrusive and personal questions about religion and race???
Who do you think you are???
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WillPhillips
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I followed a couple Black Catholic writers for awhile, but then they left. Seems to be a pretty big obstacle for that culture. Curious why and specifically interested in Black Catholics who may be in here…
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WillPhillips
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I think I’m done engaging with you. I’m a person asking questions and not demanding anything.
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MNathaniel
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I think your conduct on this forum is horrific. You seem clearly here to idly stoke division and seek offence wherever you can find it or stir it up.
This is lunacy. All these posts demanding people direct you to black-specific Church ministries, and all these posts demanding that black Catholics share their personal experiences of race and religion with you…
And you’re what, a white atheist???
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Probably as there are “so few Black American Catholics”, there probably is very few posting here.
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WillPhillips
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Thanks, I guess that makes sense. Where do you think they engage online?
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ATraveller
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They’re not answering because they already did on another thread and some did answer. You just ignored those responses.
You shifted goalposts. You wanted to Black Catholics. Then shifted it to Black Americans once someone showed the data on Catholics on the African continents.
Also, African-American Catholics have no obligation to answer your third thread on this. What makes you so special that they need to answer you? Most likely they’re creeped out by your constant threads demanding they answer your request.
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MNathaniel
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Now that you seem to have self-identified as white yourself (at least, you seem to have denied being black), your “so white around here” comment takes on extra irony.
If we’re just ‘asking questions’ here, can I ask whether you spam online atheist communities to interrogate them about this?
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Only 3% of Black Americans self-identify as ‘atheist’. The same proportion who self-identify as ‘Catholic’.
Or do you only spam Catholic communities about low Black American representation, because you dislike Catholicism and want to hear someone say “Yeah, here’s why we don’t go there!” rather than equally asking the question about why the same community has equally low self-identification in your own group (atheism)?
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WillPhillips
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Well since I’ve not been able to get a discussion here I guess you could be right…maybe there are actually lots of Black American Catholics here…
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WillPhillips
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I see. They’re silently watching this thread…and not commenting?
I think it’s more likely this is an unwelcoming space (see above comments). I seriously don’t expect any Black folks or POC to feel comfortable commenting at this point. Perhaps that’s something worth a thread…
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MNathaniel
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Maybe as a non-Black person you’re not qualified to speak for them in this way. (I’d respect the voice of an actual Black person who spoke up here about comfort-levels or anything else, by the way. But you’ve now announced that you’re not that.)I seriously don’t expect any Black folks or POC to feel comfortable commenting at this point. Perhaps that’s something worth a thread…
There are, indeed, Black people on CAF. They talk on other threads.
Maybe your threads (pot stirring posts by, apparently, a bored white atheist, who spends his time on CAF either demanding black people talk to him, or arguing that abortion is good) aren’t as enticing as you think they are.
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MNathaniel
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Oh brother.MNathaniel:
“I have Black friends!”
So you come here to ask whether there are black Catholics here.
You’re told there are black Catholics here (realistically, information you already knew because you’ve spammed this line of questioning into multiple threads and received replies from black Catholics, you just ignore those black Catholics because they don’t tell you whatever you want to hear).
You mock the person who reminded you of the existence of black Catholics here as saying some equivalent of “I have black friends”.
You have entirely malicious intentions here. I’m out.
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ATraveller
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Oh, I see. you’re just trying to falsely accuse Catholics of racism.I see. They’re silently watching this thread…and not commenting?
I think it’s more likely this is an unwelcoming space (see above comments). I seriously don’t expect any Black folks or POC to feel comfortable commenting at this point. Perhaps that’s something worth a thread…
Again:
The reality is most Black Americans are Protestant due to the fact America was predominantly Protestant with no Catholic influence (suppressed by Anglo Protestants) since the colonies until up to the mid-1800s. Let’s be more specific, Baptist and Methodist. Just like most people of Scandinavian descent are Lutheran. Most people from Great Britain are Anglican/Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Methodist and Baptist. Most people of Irish, Polish, French, Italian and Spanish are Catholic. If it weren’t for immigrants from those countries in the 1800’s, America would be even more Protestant. Those of East European ancestry are mostly Eastern Orthodox.
The Democratic Republic of Congo is majority Catholic but South Africa is majority Protestant. Senegal is majority Muslim.
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I’m still looking for a reply but it seems the “you’re racist” response is all I’ll get here. Was hoping for something different…
I’m still looking for a reply but it seems the “you’re racist” response is all I’ll get here. Was hoping for something different…
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