Black Pope could follow Barack Obama's election, says US archbishop

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While I agree that picking the next pope from the Global South (it wouldn’t have to be Africa) would be a very good thing for the Church, I don’t Obama’s election has anything to do with it.
 
Arch-bishop Gregory said that the election of Obama was a great step for humanity. It seems to me the arch-bishop should spend a little time studying the Catholic Catechism. How can the election of a pro-abortionist be a great step for humanity? If we elected a pope from Africa following the will of The Holy Spirit that would be fine.
 
Lance said:
Arch-bishop Gregory said that the election of Obama was a great step for humanity. It seems to me the arch-bishop should spend a little time studying the Catholic Catechism. How can the election of a pro-abortionist be a great step for humanity? If we elected a pope from Africa following the will of The Holy Spirit that would be fine.
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Well, the Pope himself sent a personal telegram to Obama, congratulating him on this, calling it a “historic occasion”. You do not have to agree with someone to still wish them well. Obama needs our prayers to guide this country in the right direction, and that he will see the light, in regards to abortion.
 
It’s undoubtable a “historic occasion”. I believe congratulating someone on thier win is not the same as condoning everything they stand for.

It seems working with and supporting any candidate for the good can be accomplished in parallel with condemning the bad.

We do this with our children, we can do it with the holder of a public office.
 
I am pretty sure that all the African Popes would not have been black. St. Augustine, for example, was African but not black.
 
That’s like claiming there was a causitive relationship between women’s suffrage and the Apollo moon missions. Sure one happened after the other, but the two events are entirely unrelated. Same will be the case when a black man is pope.

In the meantime, I hope our black president eventually listens to the wailing of his conscience in regards to his position that unborn children are merely the chattel property of their mothers. 😦
 
I think it’s comparing apples and oranges; I’m not sure that the American experience equates internationally, so to speak.

Last papal election, I was excited at hearing about some of the African bishops. They sounded good. Then there was talk about a South American or Mexican bishop, who sounded even better. . . and here my prejudice shows: it would’ve been cool to have had an “American” there! But Africa has good stuff.
 
I was glad to see the men from different parts of the globe being considered when Ratzinger was chosen, but I think it will be a long time before any American is considered based on the rest of the church’s view on the American church. I agree that the Obama election will have nothing to do if a black man is chosen as Pope.
 
almeras said:
I was glad to see the men from different parts of the globe being considered when Ratzinger was chosen, but I think it will be a long time before any American is considered based on the rest of the church’s view on the American church. I agree that the Obama election will have nothing to do if a black man is chosen as Pope.
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Of course not.

One is chosen by mere mortals, one by God.
 
I certainly hope that the Papacy will stay “euro-centric” in the near future. The talk of African and South American popes is interesting but I fear that a different, strange direction could be taken by someone “outside” of the usual papal circles. While they may seem devout to the Church there are several African and Hispanic prelates who have caused problems or seemed peculiar in their devotions. I’ll take a Cardinal Ratzinger anyday!
 
I was hoping for Cardinal Arinze the last time to become Pope.
 
Timothysis said:
I certainly hope that the Papacy will stay “euro-centric” in the near future. The talk of African and South American popes is interesting but I fear that a different, strange direction could be taken by someone “outside” of the usual papal circles. While they may seem devout to the Church there are several African and Hispanic prelates who have caused problems or seemed peculiar in their devotions. I’ll take a Cardinal Ratzinger anyday!
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Arinze

Cardinal Arinze, from Nigeria, is a strong possibility for the next Pope. He seems to be pretty good when it comes to “sticking to the rules”, or atleast from the little I’ve read of him.
 
While a black pope might be interesting, it’s only the last 2 that have broken a centuries-long practice of limiting the popes to Italians.
 
joeflow said:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Arinze

Cardinal Arinze, from Nigeria, is a strong possibility for the next Pope. He seems to be pretty good when it comes to “sticking to the rules”, or atleast from the little I’ve read of him.
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I thought Arinze would have been a great choice during the last election, but I think he would be too old the next time around, assuming he even outlives Pope Benedict, who still appears to be in very good shape for a man his age.

The comments of Archbishop Gregory concern me greatly. I think most people on this forum are aware of the extreme views of our President-Elect on the issue of life. If Church leaders and the laity are supporting such a man, what does that say about the Church in general? It is matters such as this, in fact the life matter in particular, which keep me a “dweller”- unable to cross the threshold and return to the Church.

Please forgive me if my criticism of the Archbishop was out of line. As a non-Catholic, I did not mean to give offense.
 
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