When it is announced the opponents will lie, cheat, steal, fudge or otherwise be dishonest or persons without integrity NO MATTER WHAT, there really isn’t anything left to discuss, is there.
I did provide this delightful example of evolutionary fact from Darwinist, Wilhelm Boelsche’s work, in case you missed it earlier.
should not the embryo of mammals, reptiles and birds show at least traces of a tadpole or fish stage in the mother’s womb, or in the egg? It is the most remarkable proof of the reliability of the biogenetic law that this is actually the case… The embryo of human being at a certain stage is likewise provided with traces of gills on its neck and with fin-like disks in the places where arms and legs develop later on.
This is as universally accepted as the fact first stated by Copernicus that the earth revolves around the sun. No man who has the least respect for truth can deny this fact. Nevertheless, there are people who find this very plain fact of embryology very little to their liking, and who therefore frequently attempt to brand it as a “falsification.” But every university text-book in the hands of every student of medicine, which is used as a basis for the state examinations, contains a statement of this simple fact, and if any student were to deny it during his examination he would be severely reprimanded by the state examiner. People who still refer to such undeniable and scientifically recognized facts as falsifications place themselves outside the pale of all moral premises and scientific research.
I don’t think I announced that he was lying, cheating, fudging or being dishonest. But I did, sarcastically point out that he was making some very wild claims in the name of evolutionary certainty.
He could have been as honest as anyone when he said “every university text-book” contains the “statement of the simple fact” that human embryos all come equipped with fish gills and fins.
I don’t know – where do we go with that? Perhaps the best conclusion is, “absurd-sounding evolutionary claims heard today cannot possibly be the result of dishonest tactics, because if you think that – then you’re a conspiracy theorist and therefore irrational.”
While some wildly incorrect claims about the “facts” of Darwinism were made in the past, one should not think that they will ever happen in the future.
I’m not the one presuming any bad faith – the absolutes and prophecies are coming from the anti-scientists here.
I guess that anyone who questions evolutionary theory is necessarily an “anti-scientist” on that basis alone. It’s like the saying: “No credible scientists doubt Darwinian theory”. Why? “Because if they did, then they certainly wouldn’t be credible scientists.”
Thus we have a very nice, tight package of truth. Anyone who questions it must be wearing a tin-foil hat, of course.
Look at the denigration of the integrity of scientists doing research in this thread. Take off the blinders, man!
I’ll chalk up another important evidence about the problem here … the notion that there is no debate at all about evolutionary claims within the scientific community.
Because, if there was a debate on some claim, then that would be an ad hominem argument. One scientist would be denigrating the integrity of another scientist by arguing against his claims.
Apparently, the right way to approach evolutionary claims is to accept them all without question – even the contradictory ones.
If it appears that one evolutionist is disagreeing with another, then that is merely an illusion (created by an evolutionary process itself, of course).
Otherwise, we’d run the risk of questioning someone’s research and that means that it’s a personal attack on them.