BOOKS: The Shack by William B. Young

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Hi all. My DH brought the book home for me to read. I started it and put it down and never finished it. I couldn’t get past having God as a woman. Just my opinion, but I’m really not comfortable with that. I won’t finish it, and I’ve heard a couple of my women friends say the same thing. They just didn’t like it.
 
Ok, thanks. WIth all the great spiritual reading available, I can’t understand why people would even waste the time on The Shack.
I was thinking the same thing. A lot of my Christian friends are recommending this book to read, but my library is full of good Catholic spiritual books (The Imitation of Christ is one I keep going back to) that I’d rather read those then the latest Christian “flash-in-the-pan” novel.
 
It is a totally heretical book!

God is a woman, Jesus is a carpenter, and well the Holy Spirit.

Just the statement it made about God being held back by Christ being human was enough to fry my liver. I had to fight myself to pick it up and read it. That just made me furious. Someone said, well you don’t have to believe it, and I said Scripture says ‘wow is me, anyone who leads one of my little ones astray.’ God have mercy!

See, I am still :banghead:, :slapfight: mad.
 
It is a totally heretical book!

God is a woman, Jesus is a carpenter, and well the Holy Spirit.

Just the statement it made about God being held back by Christ being human was enough to fry my liver. I had to fight myself to pick it up and read it. That just made me furious. Someone said, well you don’t have to believe it, and I said Scripture says ‘wow is me, anyone who leads one of my little ones astray.’ God have mercy!

See, I am still :banghead:, :slapfight: mad.
:rotfl: That’s exactly how I felt. Yes, the response is often “it’s only a book” or “you don’t have to believe it”. My problem is in the way it’s being touted as this great Christian book.
Catholics aren’t the only ones not liking it. Someone in our group had a quote from a big Baptist leader in Texas (sorry, don’t remember his name) speaking against it. I have to stop now. I’m getting riled up all over again.

Thanks for the feedback. I knew I couldn’t be the only one!
 
I read just over half of the book about six months ago at the request of a family non-Catholic member. Then I lost the book…

Anyway, I had a problem with a bit of the theology in the book. The main passage (and I am paraphrasing) being that “Everything that Christ did was as a human.” Meaning: he didn’t utilize his divinity in healings, transfigurations, signs, etc. An interesting idea, but it insinuates that we are all capable of acts of God.

I’m a convert to Catholicism and this book is the type of non-denominational thinking that I would fall for in the past. Of course, now I feel that if you aren’t in line with the Church then you are preaching a fairy tale. It’s really no better than the Left Behind series or any other of the modern theological fictions that are mass printed today. The wayward theologies are very real in books like this even though the story is fiction. I have no doubt that someone will teach the “Theology of the Shack.”

Sorry if someone already posted something similar, I did have time to read all of those posts.
 
I read just over half of the book about six months ago at the request of a family non-Catholic member. Then I lost the book…

Anyway, I had a problem with a bit of the theology in the book. The main passage (and I am paraphrasing) being that “Everything that Christ did was as a human.” Meaning: he didn’t utilize his divinity in healings, transfigurations, signs, etc. An interesting idea, but it insinuates that we are all capable of acts of God.

I’m a convert to Catholicism and this book is the type of non-denominational thinking that I would fall for in the past. Of course, now I feel that if you aren’t in line with the Church then you are preaching a fairy tale. It’s really no better than the Left Behind series or any other of the modern theological fictions that are mass printed today. The wayward theologies are very real in books like this even though the story is fiction. I have no doubt that someone will teach the “Theology of the Shack.”

Sorry if someone already posted something similar, I did have time to read all of those posts.
Kind of scary isn’t it? Actually I started a post on this several months ago and finally got a response. Then today a moderator hooked it into this old thread which I wasn’t aware of so I haven’t read them all either. To me it’s just another “Jesus and me…however I want to worship” book. Seems to be a trend…take for instance Oprah over the last year or so.

In any case, your point about falling for this type of thing before you converted makes a good point. It can be dangerous for those who are searching as it is not theologically sound. There are so many books more suitable.
 
well I think it goes along with what the Bible says about people going along with whatever tickles their fancy, being blown about by every wind of doctrine. I had a fit that it was read in the bookclub at Church, but I felt the Lord was saying, that if they don’t here the truth and be told the falacy at Church, then where are they going to hear it.

The bottom line from those at Church, is it made them dig a lot deeper into their own faith and realize, how crazy the world sees things. Their faith became stronger not because of anything the book did or said, but because they had to dig for the truth that is taught in the Catholic Church.
 
Oh, that was wonderful book! :clapping:

It was a little too preachy for me, but I’m still glad I read it. 🙂 I’d tell you my favorite part, but I wouldn’t want to spoil anything. 😉

Ironically Yours, Blade and Blood
 
I go camping each year with a very good friend, her brother and her sister’s families. They were all raised Catholic and have fallen away. The first was the sister who married a staunch Evangelical. At her dad’s funeral, she thanked her husband for teaching her that you didn’t need a church. My friend goes to the Methodist church, likely for social reasons. I think she will eventually return to the church. At any rate, I just found out that the sister plans to bring The Shack to our camping trip to read and discuss. I plan to read it in advance so that I can defend the faith and evangelize. Any guidance is appreciated. Thoughts.
 
I go camping each year with a very good friend, her brother and her sister’s families. They were all raised Catholic and have fallen away. The first was the sister who married a staunch Evangelical. At her dad’s funeral, she thanked her husband for teaching her that you didn’t need a church. My friend goes to the Methodist church, likely for social reasons. I think she will eventually return to the church. At any rate, I just found out that the sister plans to bring The Shack to our camping trip to read and discuss. I plan to read it in advance so that I can defend the faith and evangelize. Any guidance is appreciated. Thoughts.
Read and highlight! Besides the fact that the author seems to make caricatures of the Trinity, it is anti-organized religion. And how sappy that God is a big black woman dancing in the kitchen while she cooks! I pictured the character from "Big Momma’s House’’ or the comedian Flip Wilson doing “Geraldine” which you will not be familiar with if you are young. He does say “some” good things about things like suffering but they are outweighed by all the other garbage. If your friend and others are not in the Church and not knowledgeable they may not notice, or care, about the inaccuracies.

The character of Sophia is another thing entirely! Sophia is found in the heresy of Gnosticism. Google it after you have read the book.

People seem to be tied up in the emotion of the tragedy in the book and overlook everything else. I think others find justification for their “I don’t need religion to be religious” faith.

Anyway, here are a few examples from the book.

*Mack was thinking of his friends, church people who had expressed love to him and his family. He knew they loved Jesus, but were also sold out to religious activity and patriotism.

Jesus paused, his voice steady and patient. ""Like I said, I don’t create institutions; that’s an occupation for those who want to play God…I’m not too big on religion…these institutions, these structures and ideologies, are all a vain effort to create some sense of certainty and security where there isn’t any. It’s all false!*

Religion must use law to empower itself and control the people who they need in order to survive.

And finally this doozie…

My words are alive and dynamic - full of life and possibility; yours are dead, full of law and fear and judgment. That is why you won’t find the word responsibility in the Scriptures.

This last one is the biggest crock of all. You won’t find the word Trinity in the sciptures either. Responsibility is ALL OVER the scriptures!

Anyway, you get the idea. You might google the author and read his background. Gives you some insight into why he may write this way. Good luck.
 
I just finished The Shack, and thought I would look to see how other Catholics enjoyed it. Yes, there are discrepancies in what we teach, but I thought the book was absolutely wonderful. I was very saddened to see the judgmental reviews such as the comment about “The Ten Commandments.” What you may not have read in that commentary is that we use the bible and rules from the bible like the Ten Commandments to judge others. And isn’t that what we are doing with all of our negative comments. I guess I don’t understand why people get so caught up in exact words, and fail to miss the message of God’s incredible love for us. This is what I took away from the book - that God loves us so much and wants us to make God the center of our lives. Maybe I see this as looking at the book as an optimist rather than a pessimist. I tend to have the bad habit of looking at things from a pessimistic angle, but I am seeing this book as filled with a whole lot more positive than negative.
Your sister in Christ,
Susanne
 
Ok, thanks. WIth all the great spiritual reading available, I can’t understand why people would even waste the time on The Shack.
My thoughts exactly.
The book really sucked. Sorry, but can’t think of a better way of expressing what a waste of reading time it was…:rolleyes:
What a bunch of foolishness.
 
I just finished The Shack, and thought I would look to see how other Catholics enjoyed it. Yes, there are discrepancies in what we teach, but I thought the book was absolutely wonderful. I was very saddened to see the judgmental reviews such as the comment about “The Ten Commandments.” What you may not have read in that commentary is that we use the bible and rules from the bible like the Ten Commandments to judge others. And isn’t that what we are doing with all of our negative comments. I guess I don’t understand why people get so caught up in exact words, and fail to miss the message of God’s incredible love for us. This is what I took away from the book - that God loves us so much and wants us to make God the center of our lives. Maybe I see this as looking at the book as an optimist rather than a pessimist. I tend to have the bad habit of looking at things from a pessimistic angle, but I am seeing this book as filled with a whole lot more positive than negative.
Your sister in Christ,
Susanne
Welcome to CAF, Susanne! 👋

It’s a book, not a person, so I don’t think “judgmental” is the correct word to use. If it was, then no Christian could ever offer any criticism of any book, movie, song, or work of art.

That you took away from the book the overall message of God’s love is good. But it’s important to keep in mind that words are very important. Many of the Church’s ecumenical councils were convened because people were using an improper or imprecise theological vocabulary. Imprecise words, even if they convey an overall positive message, will inevitably lead to fuzziness about who God really is (as well as the role of the Church).

To point out the shortcomings of the book does not mean the book has no strengths whatsoever. But this Forum is a place for Catholics to come together and talk about popular culture as it relates to our Catholic faith. It gives us a chance to talk openly and honestly about these things. I can’t see the harm in that (assuming that we all remain charitable, of course!).

If anyone made a specific criticism that was incorrect, please let us know and we can have a chance to discuss that point.
 
I just finished The Shack, and thought I would look to see how other Catholics enjoyed it. Yes, there are discrepancies in what we teach, but I thought the book was absolutely wonderful. I was very saddened to see the judgmental reviews such as the comment about “The Ten Commandments.” What you may not have read in that commentary is that we use the bible and rules from the bible like the Ten Commandments to judge others. And isn’t that what we are doing with all of our negative comments. I guess I don’t understand why people get so caught up in exact words, and fail to miss the message of God’s incredible love for us. This is what I took away from the book - that God loves us so much and wants us to make God the center of our lives. Maybe I see this as looking at the book as an optimist rather than a pessimist. I tend to have the bad habit of looking at things from a pessimistic angle, but I am seeing this book as filled with a whole lot more positive than negative.
Your sister in Christ,
Susanne
Susanne, I for one, did say that the book DID say some good things. However, those few things are not worth reading all the other dangerous garbage. If you want people to believe a lie…wrap it in the truth.

This book is anti- organized religion, plain and simple. And anything that is anti-organized religion is most definitely anti-Catholic as we are the largest religious institution in the world! I’m surprised many Catholics want to give it a pass. As my pastor is fond of saying*…“you can’t separate a Catholic from the Church.”*

Christ established His Church. This book is totally in disagreement with that.

And as for judging this book…we have an obligation to speak up. It’s sometimes the way we do it that becomes the problem.
 
I don’t get the part about the Ten Commandments. They were given to us to tell us how to live. We judge ourselves by the ten commandments ( and by the beatitudes as well.) Where does it say in Scripture that we should use the 10 Commandments to judge others? We are told “Judge not, that you may not be judged.” But we ARE called to discern – to avoid bad company, evil situations, temptations to sin.

It seems nice that so many people “feel good” about The Shack. Or at least it would be nice if it were also a praise of God as He has revealed Himself to us. And He HAS revealed Himself as Father, as Son and as Holy Spirit. Not as a pancake making woman. My worry would be that those who feed up on the pablum of The Shack will go back to the bible and feel disconnected from it, that they will subsitute the feel good anesthesia of The Shack for the truth to which we are called, that a “False God” is being introduced through The Shack, and that idol might be placed before the truth of Who God is. That’s where the 10 Commandments relate: Thou shalt not have strange gods before ME." It doesn’t matter who we want God to be; all that matters is Who He Is. AND He doesn’t keep us guessing; He has revealed Himself to us. So the idol of The Shack might seem nice, but it’s an idol nonetheless. A very, very seductive idol.
 
It seems nice that so many people “feel good” about The Shack. Or at least it would be nice if it were also a praise of God as He has revealed Himself to us. And He HAS revealed Himself as Father, as Son and as Holy Spirit. **Not as a pancake making woman. **
😛 Had to laugh here.
So the idol of The Shack might seem nice, but it’s an idol nonetheless. A** very, very seductive idol.**
Great observation. I agree.
 
I just finished reading this book and found it to be very heretical. It is such a watered down version of the truth, that there isn’t much truth in it.

It’s like trying to learn about theology from reading a coloring book, The Shack is that shallow and that cartoonish. The characters of the Trinity were ridiculous. There is nothing holy about God in this story, instead we learn about a feel good, new age version.

It is disheartening that people actually LIKED this book. Now THAT is alarming.
 
I just finished reading this book and found it to be very heretical. It is such a watered down version of the truth, that there isn’t much truth in it.

It’s like trying to learn about theology from reading a coloring book, The Shack is that shallow and that cartoonish. The characters of the Trinity were ridiculous. There is nothing holy about God in this story, instead we learn about a feel good, new age version.

It is disheartening that people actually LIKED this book. Now THAT is alarming.
Agreed. I’m surprised he didn’t name the Holy Spirit “Tinkerbell” instead of Sarayu or whatever it was.
 
My mother-in-law gave this book to my husband to read, who in turn, gave it to me saying this book describes what he believes faith to be, a personal relationship with Jesus Christ which no ‘religion’ can hinder. I didn’t find myself getting overly emotional while reading it, except at the part when the protagonist ‘buried’ his daughter. (Don’t ask me why that got to me, I’m not sure myself.) I went into reading the book with a skeptical view, mostly trying to find the anti-Catholic retoric. This book’s anti-organized religion theology is dangerous for those who are not strong in their faith.

I am debating whether or not to read the book again with pencil and paper in hand to point out the errors even from a strictly Christian Bible Alone stance. I fear that this book has widened the gap that exists for my husband to come home to the Church. I know I can have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ AND fully receive Him as a member of the Church He established, but my husband doesn’t want the latter. 😦
 
Agreed. I’m surprised he didn’t name the Holy Spirit “Tinkerbell” instead of Sarayu or whatever it was.
Too funny… I told my husband this book described the Trinity as “Aunt Jemimah” along with the pancakes, a homely Jewish guy called Jesus, and Tinkerbell as the Holy Spirit.

The whole book is so disingenuous. I really am offended by it.

Glad you and others can understand where I am coming from.
 
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