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[Reuben_J]

The root of the problem is the violence in Islam. This violence is rooted in the hadiths of Bukhari and other authoritative sources within the Sunni books. It’s supported and further propagated by the so called scholars. And so I don’t see my personal responsibility in this to only speak out against violence but I have to also speak out against the ideology that supports this violence.

I’m open to hearing your suggestions on the issue. What do you think we can do as individuals to help the situation get better?

Hi famdigy. How are ya doing?

Christians, Muslims, people of goodwill can do much, more than we ever know, to make this world a better place to live in.

 

[MartinJordan]

)but we can certainly try at least to treat each other with human dignity and recognize that we are all valuable.

:clapping:



MJ

 

[MissyB786]

Hi, I am new to this forum.

It is sad that you had to experience such, even when I joined this forum I was initially called a troll and all sorts, but all is forgiven.

I still disagree with the Shia beliefs and have responded to ur answers in other threads. I could type lots to explain the difference between Sunni and Shia beliefs but I instead I attach a few links for you to read.

answersforshiafriend.wordpress.com/about/
youpuncturedtheark.wordpress.com/

If you would like to come to sunniforum.com or islamic-forum.net to post your beliefs with evidence or even on here a new thread with evidence for ur beliefs, there are people that will always give answers.

However I ask you to look at the core beliefs of the faith rather than the people to represent the religion. Even I get a bit hot tempered at times, so mite say things out of anger, and guys full of testosterone thats a whole another scenario lolz

I have looked at the beliefs of Shias myself as I also went in search of answers and am not convinced, as a lot of the evidence given is weak or fabricated or with no chain of narrations so you cannot p(name removed by moderator)oint where it started these beliefs from shia hadiths.

I lost someone very close to me recently and I can’t expect anyone to understand it, as my friends Muslims and Christians all expect me to move on. With some people probably judging me for feeling the way I feel, but I don’t look at these people to represent the religion, I look at the faith. and I have found so much strength from ayah and hadiths such as:

‘Allah does not break a soul only bends it’
‘Allah does not burden a soul with more than it can bear’
'All forgives those who have transgressed against themselves
‘Allah knows what is good for you and what is not’
‘Allah does not deny love, as the Prophet(PBUH) even pleaded for a wife to take back her husband and she said no, she wasn’t forced to take him back and at the same time the sympathy the Prophet(PBUH) had for the mans heartache’-this was a 2 slaves freed and their marriage annulled but the husband still loved his wife dearly even tho she didnt.

BWT i paraphrasing all this from Quran and hadiths, so excuse me if they are not accurate.

So when I read things like these it gives me strength, and I understand Shias may seem strict, but I respect them for being strict so that the religion does not go astray and people start introducing their own beliefs and concepts and corrupting the religion. I don’t think religion needs to be apologetic, Religion is universal and should always apply throughout time.

Ie I am not Homophobic but my Religion tells me it is wrong, and if people choose to practice it that is their decision they need to face with God, but if Religion starts to accommodate that it is ok, else they will be seen as homophobic? People may accept it but will God.

So the heated Sunni Shia debates, happens both ways, I’ve read all the terrible cursing the Shias do, even Shia hadiths which are rascist.

Kafi hadiths hate ‘negroes’ but Muslims are from all race?
“Beware of marrying the Negroes (Zunj) for they are an ugly creation.” (al-Kafi, fil Furoo’: Book of Nikah, Chapter: Whom Are Disliked for Marriage, Narration 1)
“Do not [even] buy anyone who is a Negro…never marry anyone of the Kurdish (people) for they are part of the Jinn (demons)…” (al-Kafi, fil Furoo’: Book of Nikah, Chapter: Whom Are Disliked for Marriage, Narration 2)

Racism another reason I cannot accept Shia hadiths and evidence. When I posted this evidence on youtube, I was called all sorts by Shias, so it works both ways.

So I think normal people like you and me and other civilized people should have discussion with evidence and not resort to what the trolls says and also ignore them if they do. If you have a point make a point with evidence and if that is enough, they can choose to take it in or ignore it but what more can you do.

I hope you continue to post, would be interesting to hear with evidence why Shias believe what they believe.

 

[jakasaki]

I don’t know about others on here Famdigy, but I’m glad you are here as well.

Although, I do know you have many members on here that admire you!

As always, all my best…
Pam

 

[xixxvmcm85]

Helllo famdigy,

I don’t know much about that but I can’t be mad at Abraham. We believe all the prophets are infallible or impeccable. They don’t commit any sins. Just for clarity and to avoid any confusion it doesn’t mean they can’t sin. It just means they are very conscious of God’s presence at all times so they chose not to sin. So whatever Abraham did is because he was commanded by God to do. I can’t be mad at him for that

our version of Abraham’s sacrifice is different from the Christian version. We share the same view with the Sunnis on this one and that is Abraham was commanded to sacrifice Ishmael. At the last moment God replaced Ishmael with a sheep that Abraham sacrificed. As for Ishmael we believe he is the father of the Arabs. Muhammad (p) is a descendant of Abraham through Ishmael.

I had no idea that Muslims believed it was Ishmael to be sacrificed. Is this a belief of your specific “denomination” (for lack of a better term) of Islam, or is it a universal belief?

Furthermore, what do Muslims in general, and Shia Twelvers specifically, believe about Isaac?

PS: Though I’ve never directly interacted with you on these fora, I have seen many of your posts and you can count me among the many who hold you in high esteem! I’m glad you’re here too.

 

[MartinJordan]

I had no idea that Muslims believed it was Ishmael to be sacrificed. )

I would have to say it was a surprise to me too when I was having a talk with my Muslim friend just casually (about only 3 years ago actually) and he was talking about Abraham and the near sacrifice of Ishmael(???).

I was so shell shocked as I always thought everybody in the world knew Isaac was the intended son, left me literally dumbfounded! I had to go and check my Bible (at that time I hardly read it). and see of course it is mentioned Isaac in black and white!

And although growing up in a Muslim country never asked the question and only knew there were friends of my dad who were called Ismail but it was just a name

Interestingly xxixxvmcmc85, the Quran does not state the son’s name

MJ