Boy Scouts to allow gay youths to join

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SeannyM said:
The American psychiatric association, the American psychological association, the American medical association, the American pediatrics association. Need more?
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The same who support direct abortion, sterilization, IVF, homosexual marriage, masturbation, and more. Those groups?
 
Cider said:
You mean like the Catholic Church that you claim to be a member of? The CCC states plainly that homosexuality is disordered.

2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,140 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."141 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
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Homosexual acts are disordered as they are sinful and against the moral order. Homosexuality is not disordered.

It’s an important designation to make. 👍
 
Tarpeian_Rock said:
I’m missing a couple of things here: Where in this decision does it say that homosexual ACTIVITY will be permitted / condoned? How many 12 or 13 year old boys even have a fixed sense of their sexuality to declare? And since troops are typically tied to a specific territory, town, etc., aren’t these “gay youths” who present such a danger already in the same schools - to say nothing of sports teams and gym classes - with the other boys?
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Why are you asking about “12 or 13 year old boys?” Boy Scouts are up to 18 years old. 🤷
 
Cider said:
You mean like the Catholic Church that you claim to be a member of? The CCC states plainly that homosexuality is disordered.
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Good grief. Why is this always the first place this conversation goes? “You’re not really Catholic!” There’s no point in feeding this kind of charge – I’m sorry for you that you think those who believe in loyal dissent are an evil element bent on the Church’s destruction. I can’t offer anything more than to say that I’ll continue to pray for you.
 
ringil said:
Homosexual acts are disordered as they are sinful and against the moral order. Homosexuality is not disordered.

It’s an important designation to make. 👍
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Not true. Homosexual/Same Sex desire is disordered. Homosexual acts are sinful. “Homosexuality” refers to both desire and action.
 
Equating homosexuallity to pedophillia, conspiracy theories about a gay plot to ruin morals, regarding NARTH as anything but entirely refutable…is this Rapture Ready or CAF?
 
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. **Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. **These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
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Am I missing something here? Has the Church specifically said BSA’s actions are wrong?
 
gracepoole said:
Good grief. Why is this always the first place this conversation goes? “You’re not really Catholic!” There’s no point in feeding this kind of charge – I’m sorry for you that you think those who believe in loyal dissent are an evil element bent on the Church’s destruction. I can’t offer anything more than to say that I’ll continue to pray for you.
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What is loyal dissent?
 
gracepoole said:
Good grief. Why is this always the first place this conversation goes? “You’re not really Catholic!” There’s no point in feeding this kind of charge – I’m sorry for you that you think those who believe in loyal dissent are an evil element bent on the Church’s destruction. I can’t offer anything more than to say that I’ll continue to pray for you.
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Loyal dissent? What does that mean? You are loyal to the Church you are dissenting?
 
ringil said:
Homosexual acts are disordered as they are sinful and against the moral order. Homosexuality is not disordered.

It’s an important designation to make. 👍
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That’s like saying concupiscence is not disordered.
 
Teen4Christ said:
Equating homosexuallity to pedophillia, conspiracy theories about a gay plot to ruin morals, regarding NARTH as anything but entirely refutable…is this Rapture Ready or CAF?
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Truth is like a sword it divides.
 
wynnejj said:
That’s like saying concupiscence is not disordered.
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Exactly. The desire to masturbate is also disordered. This is where the confusion lies. People are defining themselves by their sexual desires. We aren’t homosexual or heterosexual. We are God’s children, and we are all called to chastity. There is no reason to identify oneself as a masturbater. In fact, most people, rightly, would consider you a little odd. Identifying oneself as homosexual is equally odd…for the same reason.
 
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